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For the Sake of Peace, Israel Must Rout Hamas

Knuckle Ball

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Israel is not going to be able to shoot, kill, and occupy their way out of this problem.
 

Frankfooter

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Israel is not going to be able to shoot, kill, and occupy their way out of this problem.
No, and watching Biden and Psaki squirm when asked if Palestinians have a right to self defence is pretty telling.
Riding on the outrage of the BLM movement to office and then smack into this wall of defending what is really a much more horrid version of apartheid than South Africa probably isn't what they had in mind.

Oh, and I should post this before our resident Sanders fanboy, butler does.

I strongly believe that the United States has a major role to play in helping Israelis and Palestinians to build that future. But if the United States is going to be a credible voice on human rights on the global stage, we must uphold international standards of human rights consistently, even when it’s politically difficult. We must recognize that Palestinian rights matter. Palestinian lives matter.

Its going to be hard to combat Palestinian Lives Matter in the US.
 

jcpro

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It would be better if he wasn’t in charge. Bibi support base is the far right, that is problematic factor for peace in the region.
LOL!! You think it matters who's right or left when the rockets are raining on your head???? Gaza is an objective lesson to every Jewish person in Israel about prospects for peace. You don't make peace with Hamas, not because you don't want to, but because you can't make peace with people dead set on killing you.
 

saxon

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Watching some of the interviews on BBC. Unbelievable. Netanyahu's statement that they will keep bombing until the Palestinians are quiet. Saying it all began because Hamas started firing rockets at them. Completely ignored the fact that Palestinians are being kicked out of their homes to make way for Jewish settlers. Now Israeli Arabs and Israeli Jews are fighting each other, where before, they lived side by side, as neighbors.
This is a war crime. Seems like Israel doesn't give a fuck. Enough already. Talk about rubbing salt into a wound. Incredibly stupid to exacerbate a situation that has gone beyond any chance of reconciliation. No hope for peace, ever. How can the world condone anything Israel does after this?
As long as the US continues to throw its support behind Israel nothing will change.
 

bver_hunter

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LOL!! You think it matters who's right or left when the rockets are raining on your head???? Gaza is an objective lesson to every Jewish person in Israel about prospects for peace. You don't make peace with Hamas, not because you don't want to, but because you can't make peace with people dead set on killing you.
What started this conflict in the first place? Worshippers dispersed violently from gatherings after their days of worship. Yet Ultra-Orthodox demonstrators were allowed to go on their demonstration calling for the Palestinians to be evicted. Then there were killings of these Palestinians that ultimately involved violence with the Jewish demonstrators. Hamas were not involved up to this stage but then it was fodder for the cattle that got them to shoot those missiles into Israel and then a counter bombing by those Israeli Airforce Jets. Always easy to keep on blaming everything on to Hamas. But we have to condemn both sides in this particular conflict!!
 

nottyboi

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you can't make peace with people dead set on killing you.
Except they already have, they are at peace with Egypt and 20% of their population is Pali. So when you bomb people on the other side of the fence, you are boming the brothers, sister and cousins of 20% of your population. That can start a civil war quite easily.
 
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nottyboi

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Israel has the moral obligation to annex Palestine. They need to establish a Federation with a Palestinian State would be Gaza with a 20-40 year track to full unity and elimination of borders. This is the ONLY path that will prevent another massacre of Jews in the future.
 
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nottyboi

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Hamas should consider an "iron dome" before attacking israel...you don't fire rockets at another country and expect them to sit back and do nothing...they're cowards hiding behind civilians..

Maybe Russia should provide Hamas with a full on short range air defence system and a shitload of MAPADS and ATGMs, all defensive, but would cause absolute carnage if Israel invades. But Putin is a fair guy, Bibi always gets a phone call first.
 

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50% of the Gaza population is children.
10% of them are permanently stunted through malnutrition as a result of Israel's 'blockade'.

You can't help but kill kids when you're shooting fish in a barrel like that.
Its not like they can leave or there's anywhere safe to go.
Israel is even bombing schools now.
Because the Terrorists hamas store weapons and launch rockets from said schools
 

Frankfooter

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Israel has the moral obligation to annex Palestine. They need to establish a Federation with a Palestinian State would be Gaza with a 20-40 year track to full unity and elimination of borders. This is the ONLY path that will prevent another massacre of Jews in the future.
Yup, the one state solution with equal rights is the only viable solution now.

 

Cantaro

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I agree, they have to get rid of the terrorists Hamas. No way they'll ever have peace there, Hamas wants the Jews dead and they're not going to stop at nothing. For the libtard and anti Israel NYT to say something like this its big. These wars have nothing to do with land, they hate the Jews and they want them dead or out. No country is going to let their cities be bombed by rockets like Israel , can you imagine if they bomb London, Paris, NY ? You think they'll turn the other cheek?

 

Robert Mugabe

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Just watching this for the last 40 years makes me think that Israel could have handled it better. The average Palestinians are truly the hapless victims here. I don't think they are hell bent on driving Israel into the sea. They seem to be family people who just want a square inch to breathe. The glee and gloating I see on the Israeli side at the suffering of the people in Gaza says it all. They seem to be oblivious to the pain they are inflicting on the Palestinians in Gaza. The forced eviction of people out of houses they have lived in for half a century or more. Being given no notice. Just get out and hit the bricks.
There is no way Israel can come back from this shit show. The religious extremists in Israel are pouring gasoline on the fire, and they will attract vengeance from other places besides Gaza. Netanyahu is a mirror image of Trump.
 
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Liminal

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Israel is not going to be able to shoot, kill, and occupy their way out of this problem.
Exactly. They are shooting, killing and occupying their way into a world of self destruction. Now the violence has spread to the West Bank where they have deployed their standard solution….murder. At least 8 Palestinians murdered by Israel today.
 

Liminal

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I agree, they have to get rid of the terrorists Hamas. No way they'll ever have peace there, Hamas wants the Jews dead and they're not going to stop at nothing. For the libtard and anti Israel NYT to say something like this its big. These wars have nothing to do with land, they hate the Jews and they want them dead or out. No country is going to let their cities be bombed by rockets like Israel , can you imagine if they bomb London, Paris, NY ? You think they'll turn the other cheek?

No wonder the Ziotards are losing the propaganda war. Do you think the citizens of London and Paris - huge multicultural cities - like being compared to a racist shithole like the one you support? You think they don’t know that the country you are comparing them too practices apartheid, ethnic cleansing along with a racist supremacist ideology while brutally occupying another people?
 

jcpro

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Except they already have, they are at peace with Egypt and 20% of their population is Pali. So when you bomb people on the other side of the fence, you are boming the brothers, sister and cousins of 20% of your population. That can start a civil war quite easily.
No. Israel has a peace treaty with the Egyptian government financed by America.
 
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