For the People Who Said not to Vote for Harris/The Dems Because of Gaza

shack

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I've already answered, it was really fucking stupid and evil for Israel illegally occupy Palestine, rule through apartheid and to kill so many of their own people on Oct 7 to justify genocide.
It is NOT an answer as to whether Oct.7 was stupid or not. You made no mention of Oct. 7

7+7=14 is not an answer to how much is 2+2.
 

Valcazar

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Some people still think that Harris backing genocide had zero effect on her loss.

They really think the October 7 attack was a genocidal attack on Jews and that's the goal of Hamas.

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They also think Hamas should be removed from power and Israel run Gaza.

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Of course, since all of these (including the one you posted) are from a poll done in December, 2023 maybe these aren't very relevant results.
 

Frankfooter

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They really think the October 7 attack was a genocidal attack on Jews and that's the goal of Hamas.

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They also think Hamas should be removed from power and Israel run Gaza.

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Of course, since all of these (including the one you posted) are from a poll done in December, 2023 maybe these aren't very relevant results.
There are some odd findings in that poll. This years poll also.

That says ending the genocide was almost as supported as targeting minorities and that republican's biggest worry are 'leftist' protests.
 

Valcazar

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There are some odd findings in that poll. This years poll also.

That says ending the genocide was almost as supported as targeting minorities and that republican's biggest worry are 'leftist' protests.
Actually, that poll says this

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Ending the conflict specifically by demanding the full surrender of Hamas is what is supported.
Not "ending the genocide".
And it shows that in January, 2025, people were pretty strongly pro-Israel.

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basketcase

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The numbers trump discussed...
Are out of his ass like everything else he says but since you like this one, you're suddenly a MAGAt and pathetically it doesn't cause you the slightest bit of cognitive dissonance that you also outright reject most of what Trump says as idiotic.
 

basketcase

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Great, now you are declaring that Nabka 2.0 would be a humanitarian act.
Your claims are so idiotic. You are openly saying Arab states should never give rights to the millions of refugee descendants while living in a country that thankfully finds your opinion abhorrent. I have openly said Trumps plan is stupid but that doesn't let Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt (among others) for decades of denying rights to refugees and forcing them to survive on western charity.
 

Frankfooter

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Sorry but you got played by those troll farm accounts. They convinced you that Biden was the problem and instead you plumped for trump despite his overt calls for actual ethnic cleansing.
Netanyahu is the biggest problem, true, but Biden paid for 70% of the baby killing and personally vetoed UN ceasefires 4 times.

 

Frankfooter

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Your claims are so idiotic. You are openly saying Arab states should never give rights to the millions of refugee descendants while living in a country that thankfully finds your opinion abhorrent. I have openly said Trumps plan is stupid but that doesn't let Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt (among others) for decades of denying rights to refugees and forcing them to survive on western charity.
Why should those states give them rights when they already have the right to return to Palestine according to the UN?

 

basketcase

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trump met personally with Netanyahu and then used those numbers for the first time.
Blame Netanyahu.
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Nice save, instead of admitting you blindly believe Trump, you're now saying you blindly believe Netanyahu (while also pushing your racist bullshit about Jews subjugating the US).
 

basketcase

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Why should those states give them rights when they already have the right to return to Palestine according to the UN?
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So you're saying the 60,000 or so Canadians of Palestinian descent should have their citizenship taken from them and forced to live in camps?
 
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