For all you Trekkies out there - Star Trek TNG
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Mongrel4u said:I'm curious.
Why does the Federation continue to put up with and tolerate the Ferengi
They are nothing but a bunch of cut throats and thieves that cant be trusted....I would have finished them off looong ago.
The Ferengi are stand ins for the US, with their econonomic empire, social darwinsim and buyer beware attitutes. The use of the Ferengi allows the producers to a) show social criticism and b) show that military strength alone is not the answer.
Because the Ferengi do not have the power to take over anything protected by the Federation. They are little squirts as we found out in their "only attempt". However, they act as a middle-man, semi-ally between the hated Cardassians. The Cardassians committed bigger tricks against the Federation, like the metagenic weapon trap, and their former occupation of the Bajorans, which cost them Deep Space Nine and their access to that worm hole. Any deal brokered between the Federation and The Cardassians is disputed by the rogue Marquis.Mongrel4u said:Why does the Federation continue to put up with and tolerate the Ferengi
Gyaos Baltar.
I am not sure who to say this without getting banned but I believe the are modeled after a race of people in the middle east that aren't not popular with Arabs.Compromised said:
The model of the Federation is cooperation and understanding so the planets that don't get along with the Fedeation they make treaties with.Mongrel4u said:I'm curious.
Why does the Federation continue to put up with and tolerate the Ferengi
They are nothing but a bunch of cut throats and thieves that cant be trusted....I would have finished them off looong ago.
I can't stand the show, personally.
Makes no sense to me..
They get photon blasted and are all rolling around on the floor of the ship.
Tell me where between the 19th and 23rd century did they decide that seatbelts weren't good anymore?
Makes no sense to me..
They get photon blasted and are all rolling around on the floor of the ship.
Tell me where between the 19th and 23rd century did they decide that seatbelts weren't good anymore?
huh? The Federation is clearly representing the US on the show. Everyone speaks english, mostly American crew, their headquarters is in San Fransisco, ships named after American warships or other American icons, etc. They are normally the economic and technological superior to the other main races.Compromised said:
there is no way that the Ferengi are the "US" on the show. HOw do the Ferengi show you that military strength is not the answer? The Ferengi dont have any significant military strength? They normally use barter and deals and are made to look like bumbling idiots while doing it? ummmm...did you even watch the show?
It could be that you're both right. The Federation clearly does not represent present day America. It represents Roddenberry's ideal future civilization, based in "the land of the free". The Ferengi could represent the current-era US.
On DS9, the runabouts are named after rivers in Asia, Europe and South America.
Based on current events, economic empire, buyer-beware attitudes of the Ferengi do bear a close similarity to the economic boom that China is facing now.
Come to think of it, the Rules of Acquisition is a loose extraction of the concepts in Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations...
Based on current events, economic empire, buyer-beware attitudes of the Ferengi do bear a close similarity to the economic boom that China is facing now.
Come to think of it, the Rules of Acquisition is a loose extraction of the concepts in Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations...
The Frenengi were originally meant to be a sort of comic relief within the show, but that obviously changed.Viewer said:
Darth Vader LEADING the Cyclons...now THAT would be a formidable opponent!stang said:
On the other hand, the Battlestar Galatica was far superior to any ship the "Star Wars" rebels had. And I would take a Colonial Viper over an X-Wing Fighter any day of the week!
Ummm, not very bright are you? The "Federation" is in San Fransisco, the crew speaks English and the ships are based on US warships because the show is written, produced, paid for, and sold to an American Audience.newguy27 said:
But the Federation has never meant to be the US. Rather, the Federation has always meant to be what humanity may be able to achieve.
The Frengi are clearly based on Yankee imperialism from the 19th and early 20th century. If you don't believe me, do a seach. There has been quite a bit written about it.
As for the military issue, you are very dense, and clearly have no concept of the English language. The question is why does the Federation not choose to destroy the Ferengi. The answer is that the Federation does not belive that a military solution is a good solution. It has nothing to do with the Ferengi military abilities.
I'm surprised that a brain dead moron like you can make enough money to be able to afford and computer and internet.
lusciouslin33 said:
There aren't seat belts on naval war ships which StarFleet is modeled after.
Geez, you guys call yourself Trekkies or Trekkers (whatever)....
I don't consider myself a Trekker or Trekkie but I was surprised that nobody mentioned that Data referred the Ferengi as "Yankee Traders"...
The Ferengi are modeled after the US profiteers/capitlists from the eighteenth and nineteenth century....Like the slaver traders to carpet baggers of the era in American history....
A species that believes only in profit...And morality and ethics have no place in the Ferengi culture of profit making....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi
http://207.150.180.135/Ferengi
And the Federation is definitely modeled closer to the United Nations than to the United States.....
The Federation have bigger problems than the Ferengi who are more of a nuisance than a threat....Such as the Cardassians, Klingons, Borg, Dominion, etc.....
And it goes against the Federation's charter of "universal liberty, equality, peace, and cooperation." to wipe out the Ferengi or cause them any harm....
I don't consider myself a Trekker or Trekkie but I was surprised that nobody mentioned that Data referred the Ferengi as "Yankee Traders"...
The Ferengi are modeled after the US profiteers/capitlists from the eighteenth and nineteenth century....Like the slaver traders to carpet baggers of the era in American history....
A species that believes only in profit...And morality and ethics have no place in the Ferengi culture of profit making....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi
http://207.150.180.135/Ferengi
And the Federation is definitely modeled closer to the United Nations than to the United States.....
The Federation have bigger problems than the Ferengi who are more of a nuisance than a threat....Such as the Cardassians, Klingons, Borg, Dominion, etc.....
And it goes against the Federation's charter of "universal liberty, equality, peace, and cooperation." to wipe out the Ferengi or cause them any harm....
Hockey_MLnut said:
I could be wrong but....
Technically, the Enterprise isn't a naval (space) warship but just an exploratory ship...Wasn't meant for space warfare though it was equipped with weapons...
And it also had a separate tactical bridge in case the Enterprise was faced with a sizable threat (the saucer section would take off with most of the civilians/non essential personnel...)
A ship like the Defiant was designed for space battles and has seating for all the occupants in the bridge....so if the Defiant took a hit, the crew wouldn't be flying around....
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Defiant_class
Man....Come to think of it...I watched a lot of Star Trek when I was a kid....
Man I used to watch TNG all the time, it was a really great show. There just hasn't been anything like it on TV since it went away.
The best episode ever had to be the one where Picard was captured and tortured by the cardassians...'there are four lights!' (a nod to 1984)
I still remember that episode...truly inspiring and amazing acting, regardless of how one felt about 'star trek'.
The best episode ever had to be the one where Picard was captured and tortured by the cardassians...'there are four lights!' (a nod to 1984)
I still remember that episode...truly inspiring and amazing acting, regardless of how one felt about 'star trek'.
