First ever black hole image released

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Truly amazing considering that it was a future prediction by Albert Einstein. This will have a lot of potential in the not too distant future if it can be exploited in any way:

Astronomers have taken the first ever image of a black hole, which is located in a distant galaxy.
It measures 40 billion km across - three million times the size of the Earth - and has been described by scientists as "a monster".
The black hole is 500 million trillion km away and was photographed by a network of eight telescopes across the world.
Details have been published today in Astrophysical Journal Letters.
It was captured by the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT), a network of eight linked telescopes.
Prof Heino Falcke, of Radboud University in the Netherlands, who proposed the experiment, told BBC News that the black hole was found in a galaxy called M87.
"What we see is larger than the size of our entire Solar System," he said.
"It has a mass 6.5 billion times that of the Sun. And it is one of the heaviest black holes that we think exists. It is an absolute monster, the heavyweight champion of black holes in the Universe."
Media captionProf Heino Falcke: "We still have to understand how the light is generated"
The image shows an intensely bright "ring of fire", as Prof Falcke describes it, surrounding a perfectly circular dark hole. The bright halo is caused by superheated gas falling into the hole. The light is brighter than all the billions of other stars in the galaxy combined - which is why it can be seen at such distance from Earth.
The edge of the dark circle at the centre is the point at which the gas enters the black hole, which is an object that has such a large gravitational pull, not even light can escape.
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Astronomers have suspected that the M87 galaxy has a supermassive black hole at its heart from false colour images such as this one. The dark centre is not a black hole but indicates that stars are densely packed and fast moving
The image matches what theoretical physicists and indeed, Hollywood directors, imagined black holes would look like, according to Dr Ziri Younsi, of University College London - who is part of the EHT collaboration.
"Although they are relatively simple objects, black holes raise some of the most complex questions about the nature of space and time, and ultimately of our existence," he said.
"It is remarkable that the image we observe is so similar to that which we obtain from our theoretical calculations. So far, it looks like Einstein is correct once again."
But having the first image will enable researchers to learn more about these mysterious objects. They will be keen to look out for ways in which the black hole departs from what's expected in physics. No-one really knows how the bright ring around the hole is created. Even more intriguing is the question of what happens when an object falls into a black hole.
What is a black hole?
A black hole is a region of space from which nothing, not even light, can escape
Despite the name, they are not empty but instead consist of a huge amount of matter packed densely into a small area, giving it an immense gravitational pull
There is a region of space beyond the black hole called the event horizon. This is a "point of no return", beyond which it is impossible to escape the gravitational effects of the black hole
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Prof Falcke had the idea for the project when he was a PhD student in 1993. At the time, no-one thought it was possible. But he was the first to realise that a certain type of radio emission would be generated close to and all around the black hole, which would be powerful enough to be detected by telescopes on Earth.
He also recalled reading a scientific paper from 1973 that suggested that because of their enormous gravity, black holes appear 2.5 times larger than they actually are.
These two factors suddenly made the seemingly impossible, possible. After arguing his case for 20 years, Prof Falcke persuaded the European Research Council to fund the project. The National Science Foundation and agencies in East Asia then joined in to bankroll the project to the tune of more than £40m.
EHT array
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The eventual EHT array will have 12 widely spaced participating radio facilities
It is an investment that has been vindicated with the publication of the image. Prof Falcke told me that he felt that "it's mission accomplished".
He said: "It has been a long journey, but this is what I wanted to see with my own eyes. I wanted to know is this real?"
No single telescope is powerful enough to image the black hole. So, in the biggest experiment of its kind, Prof Sheperd Doeleman of the Harvard-Smithsonian Centre for Astrophysics led a project to set up a network of eight linked telescopes. Together, they form the Event Horizon Telescope and can be thought of as a planet-sized array of dishes.
The data was stored on hundreds of hard drives which were flown to a central processing centre. There was too much of it to be sent over the internet
Each is located high up at a variety of exotic sites, including on volcanoes in Hawaii and Mexico, mountains in Arizona and the Spanish Sierra Nevada, in the Atacama Desert of Chile, and in Antarctica.
A team of 200 scientists pointed the networked telescopes towards M87 and scanned its heart over a period of 10 days.
The information they gathered was too much to be sent across the internet. Instead, the data was stored on hundreds of hard drives that were flown to a central processing centres in Boston, US, and Bonn, Germany, to assemble the information. Prof Doeleman described the achievement as "an extraordinary scientific feat".
"We have achieved something presumed to be impossible just a generation ago," he said.
"Breakthroughs in technology, connections between the world's best radio observatories, and innovative algorithms all came together to open an entirely new window on black holes."
The team is also imaging the supermassive black hole at the centre of our own galaxy, the Milky Way.
Odd though it may sound, that is harder than getting an image from a distant galaxy 55 million light-years away. This is because, for some unknown reason, the "ring of fire" around the black hole at the heart of the Milky Way is smaller and dimmer.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47873592

 

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Actually, it is not a picture of a black hole.
 

bver_hunter

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Why is it not a picture of the First Black Hole?
 

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I want to pretend to know what any of this means.
 

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I came in here thinking it was an sp review.
 

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I want to pretend to know what any of this means.
What is it so difficult to comprehend about a black hole? It
just sucks everything in. Just think what a bottomless money
pit in real life is like if money is substitutable with any matter.
 

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To the naysayers who try to claim this isn't a picture of a black hole, you're missing the point.

Yes, it is impossible to capture photos of light from a black hole because none escapes. Similarly a shadow is not a thing, it's an absence of light. The shadow itself doesn't exist as an object made of shadow. "Shadow" is just a word we use to describe a place that's darker than the surrounding area.

We can take a picture of the sky and see the absence of light in a particular way in a particular place and see that a black hole must be there.
Even better, the light around this black hole (the dark spot) proves that light bends AROUND the black hole in exactly the way Einstein predicted decades ago, long before we had the technology to see proof.

To people who don't understand black holes:
Imagine you turned up the gravity on Earth so strong that you were too heavy to move. Then you kept turning it up so high that the Earth itself couldn't stay up and it shrank to the size of a golf ball. Now imagine the gravity was so strong that rays of light were pulled down, not because they were "pulled" down by gravity but because gravity was so strong it curved empty space. Space itself gets pulled so strongly that straight lines become curved so shining a flashlight outwards curves the light back in. So nothing can escape this "black hole". Anything that falls in will never escape. Since that includes light we cannot see it. We can only see stuff falling into it up until right before it completely falls in.

Except black holes aren't made by turning up gravity on a planet. Dying stars - if they're big enough - become black holes when they die.
 

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To the naysayers who try to claim this isn't a picture of a black hole, you're missing the point.

Yes, it is impossible to capture photos of light from a black hole because none escapes. Similarly a shadow is not a thing, it's an absence of light. The shadow itself doesn't exist as an object made of shadow. "Shadow" is just a word we use to describe a place that's darker than the surrounding area.

We can take a picture of the sky and see the absence of light in a particular way in a particular place and see that a black hole must be there.
Even better, the light around this black hole (the dark spot) proves that light bends AROUND the black hole in exactly the way Einstein predicted decades ago, long before we had the technology to see proof.

To people who don't understand black holes:
Imagine you turned up the gravity on Earth so strong that you were too heavy to move. Then you kept turning it up so high that the Earth itself couldn't stay up and it shrank to the size of a golf ball. Now imagine the gravity was so strong that rays of light were pulled down, not because they were "pulled" down by gravity but because gravity was so strong it curved empty space. Space itself gets pulled so strongly that straight lines become curved so shining a flashlight outwards curves the light back in. So nothing can escape this "black hole". Anything that falls in will never escape. Since that includes light we cannot see it. We can only see stuff falling into it up until right before it completely falls in.

Except black holes aren't made by turning up gravity on a planet. Dying stars - if they're big enough - become black holes when they die.
like black holes, do you believe in wormholes and time travel? Some speculate there is a white hole behind the other side of the black hole to an alternate universe. I know what those dirty minds are thinking, but this is science

 

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I prefer not to worry about my beliefs and instead ask what the science says is fact. I mean, we already know (and have proven) time travel to the future is possible: The faster you move or the stronger gravity you're in, the slower time passes so the younger you are in the future. There's no known way to go backwards in time and the math suggests it's impossible. White holes connecting to black holes though...? Yeah my mind goes somewhere delightfully dirty before I can give the science another thought ;)


like black holes, do you believe in wormholes and time travel? Some speculate there is a white hole behind the other side of the black hole to an alternate universe. I know what those dirty minds are thinking, but this is science
 
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