FBI investigating death of suspect after Minneapolis police officer put knee on neck
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Okay so I agree with you that to fully grasp what the officers were thinking we need to see the entire video.
Would also like to see the coroners report to verify the exact cause of death and a toxicology report as well.
But here's where I disagree with you. I can't for the life of me think why the officer needs to have his full weight on the deceased throat for 7 minutes. The man is handcuffed behind his back and completely prone. At this point unless the officer is utterly incompetent he should be able to control him until the cavalry arrives. I find what I just witnessed disturbing and reprehensible. A total disregard for a potentially disastrous outcome.
Paul Blat Mall Cop
What filed have you seen this used in goof? I would like to see a 300 pound man kneel on your neck for 7 minutes or so while you repeat what you just said. In one breath. It would either squeeze the opiions out of your mouth or silence you. either would be nice.
Point made.
But I also wonder if those video tapes were not reviewed by the Chief before the decision to fire was taken. If so, they may not help the cops too much.
Four cops fired. I find that very disturbing. One asshole cop is going to surface from time to time. You have four of them. Not one of them says anything.
One of the big problem with U.S. police forces is the herd mentality. Not one of the other three knuckleheads stood up.
One of the big problem with U.S. police forces is the herd mentality. Not one of the other three knuckleheads stood up.
When you have average citizens telling you to check for a pulse because even they can see he is unresponsive, you don't deserve to wear the badge.
Unfortunately this is a reoccurring theme with cops all over.
Sure there are many that do a great job, but I for one have never had a pleasant exchange with one and I am not a confrontational person.
They seem to have this chip on their shoulder and trained arrogance.
I don’t trust any of them and only answer with the least amount of information possible, they are not there to help you but to catch you at doing something wrong.
I remember as a teenager being told by a lawyer that he had never seen a cop who had his clients best interests at heart.
Every encounter I ever had with the police after that I always had his voice in my head.
So yes I have always been polite but curt when dealing with cops.
Good point as well and one would definitely assume so.
I'd expect charges both criminal and civil here.
I only ever had 3 encounters with cops. No bad experiences to report. I don't mess with them and they don't mess with me. It's not complicated.
Context is everything. So in order to put your experience in perspective you could help us out with a description of yourself. How wealthy and important are you, as well?
Oh, have you found the point you were trying to make with the Diamond shooting?
My father was ex-military. Naturally, some of his very close friends were other soldiers he served with and trusted.
One of these friends, a very bright and aware gentleman, was of great interest to the police community. Their attempts to recruit him went unreciprocated time and time again. He did go to many interviews to hear them out and express his viewpoints on law enforcement.
When I was in my early 20's, I had lunch with him and my Father in NYC. As we walked to the restaurant, we saw 2 police officers belittling a group of men who were clearly of middle eastern heritage. I don't know what the deal was but the immigrant men were clearly scared mindless.
As we sat for lunch, my father's friend said this to me which I'll never forget: "A Custodian of Peace (COP) who has been charged with protecting the morals, ethics and laws of any society, specially carrying a firearm, should have a certain level of education. It's too much responsibility for a lowbrow person".
Every time I see these episodes of police violence on TV, such as Minneapolis, these words always ring round and true.
He went on to say: "Ideally, officers would have a B.A. in sociology. This would solve a world of problems. Truthfully, this will never happen. It's a pipe dream. The vast majority of applicants to police forces don't have the discipline to obtain a university degree and society would have a severe shortage of LE officers. Too many of them come from low income backgrounds and already have a bias towards minorities in society. Being 'caucasian' is the only worth they can find within themselves. Ex military is also a problem as they rely on hierarchy to absolve them of any wrong doing since they can fall back on the "I was just following orders" mentality. Training isn't enough, education is what's needed. This will never happen though. Things will only get worse."
As a young man hearing these things, I hoped for the best.
It's clear that my Father's friend was absolutely correct and I see why he never accepted any work in the Law Enforcement Community. He retired a successful and content man.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05/27/the-boogaloo-movement-is-not-what-you-think/
Far right militia groups discuss using the death to commence a summer of armed clashes w law enforcement in MN.
Far right militia groups discuss using the death to commence a summer of armed clashes w law enforcement in MN.
I always thought "COP" was "Constable on Patrol". Origin in the U.K.
My advice to anyone interacting with a COP. BE RESPECTFUL! It's not rocket science. They're human too.
