Fauci says COVID-19 cases will likely increase soon, though not necessarily hospitalizations

[Valcazar]

CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese

An overwhelming majority of people who have been hospitalized, needed a ventilator or died from Covid-19 have been overweight or obese, the CDC said.

www.cnbc.com

$candemic of the obese. And that’s not including all the “after the fact” facts coming to light where numbers were exaggerated to justify un$cientific mandates and coercion meant to force ppl to get jabbed.

This is sad.
Where in this article is the "they would be dead anyway" bit?
(We won't go into you conflating overweight and obese and what that 78% is actually measuring. I asked about "dead anyway" and I expect you to deliver.)

 

[drewstar]

This is sad.
Where in this article is the "they would be dead anyway" bit?
(We won't go into you conflating overweight and obese and what that 78% is actually measuring. I asked about "dead anyway" and I expect you to deliver.)

This is sad.
Where in this article is the "they would be dead anyway" bit?
(We won't go into you conflating overweight and obese and what that 78% is actually measuring. I asked about "dead anyway" and I expect you to deliver.)

The point is, this was NEVER a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” which is what was used to segregate, discriminate etc over mandates/people losing their livelihoods/people suffering from adverse reactions all while NOT having informef consent. Healthy people are not dropping like flies, and if any were theyre more likely to come from the boosted then double jabbed crowd, in that exact order.

Mind you, if youre obese it doesnt matter if youre jabbed or not - youd be considered higher risk.

 

[Valcazar]

The point is, this was NEVER a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” which is what was used to segregate, discriminate etc over mandates/people losing their livelihoods/people suffering from adverse reactions all while NOT having informef consent. Healthy people are not dropping like flies, and if any were theyre more likely to come from the boosted then double jabbed crowd, in that exact order.

Mind you, if youre obese it doesnt matter if youre jabbed or not - youd be considered higher risk.

The depth of your ability to not understand things is impressive.

 

[drewstar]

The depth of your ability to not understand things is impressive.

As expected, the extreme left have no factual rebuttals and resort to petty name calling.

Good luck to all the obese and their infinite number of booster appointments.

 

[KDK13]

Excess deaths, excess deaths. That's the metric if you feel it's no big deal.
Countries know their typical death rates from month to month. If covid is a major problem one should see a rise in excess death rates. Here is a non left wing publication-the economist:

Tracking covid-19 excess deaths across countries

In many parts of the world, official death tolls undercount the total number of fatalities

www.economist.com

It shows clear change above typical.

 

[Valcazar]

Excess deaths, excess deaths. That's the metric if you feel it's no big deal.
Countries know their typical death rates from month to month. If covid is a major problem one should see a rise in excess death rates. Here is a non left wing publication-the economist:

Tracking covid-19 excess deaths across countries

In many parts of the world, official death tolls undercount the total number of fatalities

www.economist.com

It shows clear change above typical.

Of course it does.
We've been over it before.
Eventually it won't because the expected deaths from COVID will be factored in.
At that point, people will say COVID causes (and never caused) any excess deaths.
Because of course they will.

 

[Valcazar]

As expected, the extreme left have no factual rebuttals and resort to petty name calling.

Good luck to all the obese and their infinite number of booster appointments.

Why would I present factual rebuttals when you have made it very clear you don't want to engage in factual discussion?
I have other shit to do.

 

[drewstar]

Why would I present factual rebuttals when you have made it very clear you don't want to engage in factual discussion?
I have other shit to do.

More propaganda for you to spread?

Since you’ve yet to acknowledge that obesity is by far the single most important commorbidity, it is crystal clear we have yet another far left extremist who must resort to saying a whole lot of nothing in order to save face.

But hey, keep following the $cience.

 

[squeezer]

More propaganda for you to spread?

Since you’ve yet to acknowledge that obesity is by far the single most important commorbidity, it is crystal clear we have yet another far left extremist who must resort to saying a whole lot of nothing in order to save face.

But hey, keep following the $cience.
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I bet your doctor doesn't answer the phone when you call.

 

[drewstar]

I bet your doctor doesn't answer the phone when you call.

Healthy people dont generally call the doctor, period.

 

[basketcase]

The point is, this was NEVER a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” ...

At least if you ignore all the data from before the highly virulent omicron and BA.2 variants. Ontario data had the unvaccinated being infected around 4-5 times the rate, hospitalized at 8 times the rate, and the ICU at 10 times the rate. Numbers from the US were even more obvious about how hard covid was hitting the unvaccinated.

 

[basketcase]

More propaganda for you to spread?

Since you’ve yet to acknowledge that obesity is by far the single most important commorbidity, it is crystal clear we have yet another far left extremist who must resort to saying a whole lot of nothing in order to save face.

But hey, keep following the $cience.
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I find it amazing that covid deniers think they're the ones analyzing the facts.

 

[KDK13]

Epidemiologist who study this for 30+ years vs uncredentialed internet blowhards.
Hmm.

 

[Valcazar]

Since you’ve yet to acknowledge that obesity is by far the single most important commorbidity, it is crystal clear we have yet another far left extremist who must resort to saying a whole lot of nothing in order to save face.

You've yet to present your argument that "obesity is by far the single most important commorbidity".
Maybe one day you will.
You would have to define "most important" of course.
So far the closest you've come is an assertion that seems to be all fat people would be dead at the same rate if COVID didn't exist.

That's not a very promising start.

 

[Valcazar]

I find it amazing that covid deniers think they're the ones analyzing the facts.

I don't.
It's very important to the identity politics they value.

 

[benstt]

Apparently reading comprehension isnt a strong suit of yours.

You are in over your head.

 

[Mr.lover]

If they are corona viruses then, yes they are really bad colds. They, however, actually had a significant mortality rate, unlike COVID19. We wrecked our economy and most likely will end up in a major economic collapse and/or global conflict because people like you were scared of a cold. When you're broke and starving (along with the rest of us) in a few years, remember that you put yourself there.

What happened to the "it was created in a lab". All of a sudden it's not a deadly virus unleashed by the Chinese communist to destroy the western economy. Now it's a really bad cold.

 

[Mr.lover]

Of that 18 million, 17 million would have been dead anyway due to their underlaying health issues.

And your reliable source of information is????

 

[basketcase]

At least if you ignore all the data from before the highly virulent omicron and BA.2 variants. Ontario data had the unvaccinated being infected around 4-5 times the rate, hospitalized at 8 times the rate, and the ICU at 10 times the rate. Numbers from the US were even more obvious about how hard covid was hitting the unvaccinated.

To add, the current Ontario data has unvaccinated in the ICU at 4 times the rate of the sane.

 

[Bagilson]

It is easy to sit around and call each other names. But it doesn't change the fact that you are just plain wrong.

I have long covid. I have spent MANY nights in the ER since January and I have talked to the staff, and observed how they responded to unvaxxed vs vaxxed. I watched multiple people, of different ages, being wheeled out by morgue staff.

My "opinions" are based on actual observation, as well as research, not fox news or alex jones.

Well, you’ve made claims previously in this thread which are at odds with the findings of the Mayo Clinic

Long COVID questions and answers

COVID-19 can have lasting symptoms that affect many parts of the body. Learn more about the symptoms and effects of long COVID.

www.mayoclinic.org

All of the patients retrieved by the morgue staff in your presence died of COVID? What was the exact number of co-morbidities for each of them?