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onthebottom said:
No Minneapolis on that list.....

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That's because YOU left Minneapolis and went to Ohio.....which doesn't fare as well.
Could there be some connection?....:eek:
 

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Don said:
Amherst, NY is a suburb of Buffalo and is considered to be the safest big city (population 100K+) in the USA.
Not any longer. Crime is up there and they lost their top ranking...:(
 
LancsLad said:
Cleveland may have it's share of problem areas, but there is a lot going on there and the availability of healthcare is second to none.
True, drawing many top medical talents to the city. Think they've 1 of the top cancer center.
 

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WoodPeckr said:
That's because YOU left Minneapolis and went to Ohio.....which doesn't fare as well.
Could there be some connection?....:eek:
An idiot to the end, you are consistent.

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onthebottom said:
An idiot to the end, you are consistent.

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bottie, so you deny the obvious role you played in Ohio's ranking???.....;)
 

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I've been to Pittsburgh and the downtown core was pretty nice actually. Quite interesting architecture.

My only complaint about Pittsburgh (inner city) what that it shuts down at 6 p.m.

I remember arriving there around 8 or 9 p.m. and checking in at the hotel and I was starving. I asked the girl at the desk where there was a decent restaurant near by and she responded, "NOW, no, everything will be closed"

I thought she didn't know what she was talking about that surely there was some place that was open. We started walking, and there was NOTHING open. Initially, you think you'll find some place near by, then you think that there must be a chinese place that's open, they're always open, then you're looking for a Burger King.

Nope, nadda. Closed up tight as a drum.

We have it good in Toronto.
 

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Interesting isn't it...

james t kirk said:
I've been to Pittsburgh and the downtown core was pretty nice actually. Quite interesting architecture.

My only complaint about Pittsburgh (inner city) what that it shuts down at 6 p.m.

I remember arriving there around 8 or 9 p.m. and checking in at the hotel and I was starving. I asked the girl at the desk where there was a decent restaurant near by and she responded, "NOW, no, everything will be closed"

I thought she didn't know what she was talking about that surely there was some place that was open. We started walking, and there was NOTHING open. Initially, you think you'll find some place near by, then you think that there must be a chinese place that's open, they're always open, then you're looking for a Burger King.

Nope, nadda. Closed up tight as a drum.

We have it good in Toronto.

...how different cities have there own unique "culture" that way, isn't it.

I remember when I first came to Toronto 12 years ago with friends to celebrate my 30th birthday (who knew I'd end up living here??...LOL) and we went out to party with some strippers we had met the night before at what I now know is FYEO...back then the bars in what I now know is the Entertainment District closed at 1:00am...I was like "what the fuck kind of cow town is this???"...LOL...we had to go back to their place in Mississauga to entertain ourselves...which for my buddy ended up being fairly entertaining indeed...
 

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james t kirk said:
I've been to Pittsburgh and the downtown core was pretty nice actually. Quite interesting architecture.

My only complaint about Pittsburgh (inner city) what that it shuts down at 6 p.m.

I remember arriving there around 8 or 9 p.m. and checking in at the hotel and I was starving. I asked the girl at the desk where there was a decent restaurant near by and she responded, "NOW, no, everything will be closed"

I thought she didn't know what she was talking about that surely there was some place that was open. We started walking, and there was NOTHING open. Initially, you think you'll find some place near by, then you think that there must be a chinese place that's open, they're always open, then you're looking for a Burger King.

Nope, nadda. Closed up tight as a drum.

We have it good in Toronto.
I have found that hotel employees (anywhere) are useless as far as recommending local businesses.

What's their financial incentive for doing so? They'd rather you stay in and order overpriced room service.

Same thing happened to me in Toronto. Nothing within the immediate vicinity of my hotel was open for a late evening meal, so I took the TTC to Mandarin Buffet.

Google is your friend. That, and the yellow pages in your room.

If you still can't find anything, try Denny's.

IIRC, I never had a problem finding late night eats in any city I visited. It may not be within walking distance of your hotel, and you may need to travel a bit.
 

james t kirk

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We were right downtown and there was NOTHING open. Trust me, it was tight as a drum.

The next day (Saturday), there were scads of people.
 

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james t kirk said:
I've been to Pittsburgh and the downtown core was pretty nice actually. Quite interesting architecture.
I agree. I was in Pittsburgh recently and it was nicer than I expected.
 

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I like to think I've been to every American major city and I would rank Seattle as the best. Don't know why but it was, well, it just was.
 

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dj1470 said:
I like to think I've been to every American major city and I would rank Seattle as the best. Don't know why but it was, well, it just was.
Nicer than San Fran?

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ig-88 said:
I have found that hotel employees (anywhere) are useless as far as recommending local businesses.

...

Google is your friend. That, and the yellow pages in your room.

If you still can't find anything, try Denny's.

IIRC, I never had a problem finding late night eats in any city I visited. It may not be within walking distance of your hotel, and you may need to travel a bit.
Had excellent service from Marriott concierge motived by great employee incentive program, I'm told. Other high-end chains have them too. Older concierge usually more helpful, know the neighborhoold, pride in their job & wait on you hand & feet in our experience.

Also checkout, http://www.concierge.com/
 

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onthebottom said:
Nicer than San Fran?
Yep.

If I had to move to a major U.S. city I would rank my top choices as follows:

Seattle
San Diego
Tampa Bay
Phoenix
San Francisco

My bottom would be:

New York
Miami
Los Angeles
Buffalo
Atlanta
+ any major city in the midwest
 

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dj1470 said:
Yep.

If I had to move to a major U.S. city I would rank my top choices as follows:

Seattle
San Diego
Tampa Bay
Phoenix
San Francisco

My bottom would be:

New York
Miami
Los Angeles
Buffalo
Atlanta
+ any major city in the midwest
I liked NYC, kind of Toronto x 10. Agree with San Fran, never been to Seattle, hell, never been to Vancouver.

Perfect world, Toronto from May till November, Mauii after that. Never see snow again as long as I live - and that would be just fine.
 

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LancsLad said:
Cleveland may have it's share of problem areas, but there is a lot going on there and the availability of healthcare is second to none.


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As long as you brought up health care, in Buffalo its very poor. The insurance companies have a strangle hold on the Drs. Mainly the care is cursory with thoroughness being a thing of the past. People die all the time because the Drs. never get to the root cause of a problem -eg, a friends 50 yr old husband died of colon cancer after over a year where they were telling him he had indigestion. Patients are delayed from visiting a specialist since its cheaper for the insurerer to have him continuing to go to the primary care physician. There's much more than this contributing to the poor care.
 

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tboy said:
Was I the only one to notice how most of those "dying" cities were big manufacturing centres and with the loss of one or two companies, the city started dying?

Guess that's what happens when everyone wants to buy offshore goods dirt cheap at walmart......Not to blame it all on unions but one of the largest factors in making anything is labour and when it is unionized labour, those costs skyrocket. As I've always said: unions only have short term goals in mind......(and this is the result).
Yes, and when are we going to start to get after the tradesmen's unions. Seems like Plumbers, etc, can charge sky rocketing prices and no one seems to complain.
 
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