Let me preface this saying I love, love women. Probably true for every man here. We can`t deny the cat/dog scenario that exists though. This runs through my mind now and then mostly with civvies but SPs are not exempt. The relentless crazy, shit tests for compliance and endless self centered me me stance. I`ve often felt that they don`t love you but love what you can do for them and give them. I`ve experienced a couple failed civvie partnerships last year, even when they understand you can offer them a life they can`t imagine they can`t stop themselves from fucking it all up. Is it their fundamental nature, like a rattlesnake will tag you if you try to pick it up, entitlement or just plain stupid? I`m at a real crossroads lately, I`ve had a regular SP trying to play me. She`s well compensated and the some but here we go... same old shit, get a really good thing going and throw it all away on nothing. Gentlemen....
Ever consider being done with women,..ALL of them?
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You are doing it wrong bro.
This is why you need a fuck buddy, an SO, a soul buddy, a spirit buddy and the list goes on and on. Once you meet the one that you guys connect with just enjoy her company without expectation and whatever you do don’t let your buddies meet each other and everyone is happy, happy like a hippo, without expectations :dance:
This is why you need a fuck buddy, an SO, a soul buddy, a spirit buddy and the list goes on and on. Once you meet the one that you guys connect with just enjoy her company without expectation and whatever you do don’t let your buddies meet each other and everyone is happy, happy like a hippo, without expectations :dance:
With SPs I just move on - one of the benefits of an SP rather than a relationship - can't say I can live without the rack and crack.
"Don't try to understand women. Women understand other women, and they hate each other" - Al Bundy
There are some really special women out there, but many are as you describe. The same could be said of men - we love women (for sex) although we're rarely in love with them. But since we're not gay and we're not female, we don't care about about the shortcomings of men in typical relationships.
There are some really special women out there, but many are as you describe. The same could be said of men - we love women (for sex) although we're rarely in love with them. But since we're not gay and we're not female, we don't care about about the shortcomings of men in typical relationships.
Yeah, a lot of people can't be happy with happiness, and they have to keep pushing it. Men and women.
There's a quote. Like this: "Everything in life is about Sex. Except sex. Sex is about power."
I think most women want to control a man. Part of them does. They like to train babies, dogs and men.
Part of it is that she feels inferior (well, to some degree this is common, I think). Usually, in terms of muscles, she is inferior. But, in general, women have powers men do not. (Or did not develop.)
(Wow. Said that fast. Often she "feels" inferior. I did NOT say I think women are inferior. And men often feel inferior too. An issue. Worthy of a much longer discussion.)
(Let's add that "control" does not mean complete mastery. Just, that they want to feel they can change the man. Get him to do things that the woman wants...whatever it may be. Usually a good thing really. Make up the bed, do the dishes, open the wine bottle. Help have a nice house, in some way. Often very obvious things.)
It's annoying, silly....except that it does lead to civilization, I think.
Anyway...they can't help it, so don't play that game too much with them. If it annoys you too much. Love them, kind of laugh at them, and enjoy what you do enjoy.
(And do the dishes and clean up your own damn messes.)
Don't let them get to you.
One more thing. Some people have had a (or several) bad relationships with men. Maybe the men (who probably also had past reasons) "hated" women. Anyway, once you have one bad relationship, it is hard to imagine the next guy being that different. Psychologically, we all seek revenge for the past. Not fair, but life is not fair.
Men and women "project" onto each other.
AND...careful being the amateur psychologist. THAT can be very annoying.
Similarly, when women complain about men, there is some basis in fact for the complaints. Maybe not fair for her to complain (that much) about you. But there probably is some basis somewhete. Men can be oblivious. And not clean up their own messes.
Remember, you too are an asshole sometimes, and she puts up with you.
Also: Fight with her, but keep your smile. She wants a "good" fight. To her, a fight means you care. (A verbal fight.)
These verbal fights are not meant to be logical. She won't be. No need for you to be. Just don't be too mean.
Don't lose your cool. Fight a bit. Let her win sometimes. Don't let her win on things you really care about. (She knows, or she will know, she does not really want to win all the time.) And keep the smile. All we humans are a bit crazy. Nothing really to do but smile about it.
Still , everything considered, aren't women wonderful in about 45 ways?
Mostly I just love women. So many things about them. Love them all.
Surely I do not love all women, but honestly, for about every woman I can think of, I love at least something about them.
But they can be annoying sometimes.... I sympathize.
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The line "they don't love you they love what you do for them" has men equally written all over it.
How many men don't actually love their wives but they sure love the clean house, the cooked dinner, the kids being taken care of, all while she goes out and works the same hours as you at work trying to bring home money as well.
And how many men feel she is not doing enough? Not bring in enough money at her job and how bitchy men get that they make "all" the money and she just "helps" out a bit.
Seen it way to many times. Sorry but it is totally a two way street here! LOL
Part of the reason I am actually done with civie relationships and see clients. You can love your life and have some fun when you want, how you want, on your terms. Works for me!
How many men don't actually love their wives but they sure love the clean house, the cooked dinner, the kids being taken care of, all while she goes out and works the same hours as you at work trying to bring home money as well.
And how many men feel she is not doing enough? Not bring in enough money at her job and how bitchy men get that they make "all" the money and she just "helps" out a bit.
Seen it way to many times. Sorry but it is totally a two way street here! LOL
Part of the reason I am actually done with civie relationships and see clients. You can love your life and have some fun when you want, how you want, on your terms. Works for me!
There is a special place in heaven for anyone who quotes Al Bundy lol.....
But true, there are great women, there are awful women, as there are w the blokes. The key is how quickly you can recognise what it is you're dealing with. Usually requires taking a (psychological) beating first. Dated a gold digger once...but after that experience, recognised the signs and can spot them a mile away....thus...never again. In this hobby, the only expectations should be whether you were entertained.
As Kherrg007 is saying not all women are bad.
I think that yes, men and women are very different. That's why the book "Men Are from Mars Women Are from Venus" was so successful. It explains in full detail the differences and teaches women how to deal with specific situations. We are wired differently, nothing we can do about that. A major factor is mental health, assuming both parties are struggling with mental health issues it becomes a bigger dissastar. Assuming both parties are healthy mentally and are genereally happy with their lives then thing should be great, with proper communication. It's also as simple as you meet someone and it doesn't flow, move onto the next. Life is too short to waste time being around people that don't make you feel happy.
I think that yes, men and women are very different. That's why the book "Men Are from Mars Women Are from Venus" was so successful. It explains in full detail the differences and teaches women how to deal with specific situations. We are wired differently, nothing we can do about that. A major factor is mental health, assuming both parties are struggling with mental health issues it becomes a bigger dissastar. Assuming both parties are healthy mentally and are genereally happy with their lives then thing should be great, with proper communication. It's also as simple as you meet someone and it doesn't flow, move onto the next. Life is too short to waste time being around people that don't make you feel happy.
Contrary to what you said about men rarely loving women...and maybe I was not always like this.... I feel I at least like all the women I meet. (Yes, I can think of a few exceptions, with effort.) I like them and love them in many ways. Many colors, many levels. But almost always at least a friendly affection. There is (almost) always something wonderful in a woman to be impressed by, to say "wow" to, to find the beauty of, to love.
Not that women can't be jerks too, just like men.
Now, do we all express our love or our liking well? Ah, that is harder. Never can we express it well enough. As much as it and they deserve. This is my opinion. We never say thank you enough. (And not that they should not say thank you back, too. Although women usually do more than men, at least verbally.)
Give up on love and sex, are you ready to give up on oxygen?
After the Super Bowl Party I got home but wasn't ready for sleep, so I watched Crashing. The show could be called Gomer Pyle in NYC, Pete Holmes plays it like a clueless lummox, taking hits to his ego to make it as a comic. S3 E3 was a radical departure, up till then the show has been a showcase for other comics - notably the decrepit Artie Lange. The last two episodes Pete's brought in a straight actor, it was a ray of hope for us lovelorn schlepps.
Madeline Wise e bona!
After the Super Bowl Party I got home but wasn't ready for sleep, so I watched Crashing. The show could be called Gomer Pyle in NYC, Pete Holmes plays it like a clueless lummox, taking hits to his ego to make it as a comic. S3 E3 was a radical departure, up till then the show has been a showcase for other comics - notably the decrepit Artie Lange. The last two episodes Pete's brought in a straight actor, it was a ray of hope for us lovelorn schlepps.
Madeline Wise e bona!
See, to me, it’s not a women thing, it’s a person thing. A lot of people are assholes, women are people, so a lot of women are assholes. No need to over complicate things. A lot of men are assholes too, just in different ways. At the end of the day, doesn’t really matter what brand of asshole a person is, they all stink and are full of shit. Best to just try to avoid dealing with assholes of all stripes as much as possible.
I love my wife and everything she does for the family. I love my family and feel extremely grateful and happy to have such a wonderful family. There is flaws obviously in both of us. We fight sometimes. She is tired a lot and doesn’t like intimacy. But whatever we all have our flaws. My flaws are having a double and triple life. I still love talking and connecting with other women outside my marriage. It doesn’t mean I don’t love her. I don’t ask about her private life and to give me details of her guy friend dates. She doesn’t ask details when I come home at 3am. So it works for us in our happiness and flaws we found stability. I don’t think she wants to leave, it seems she is happy and so am I. So we accept our flaws and keep being happy like a hippo.
Guys who can’t handle women are insecure in themselves and don’t know what they want and who they are. This life IMO is worth living because women bring it meaning and depth and I couldn’t imagine a world without them despite both our flaws. We are not made to be exclusive. This is something socially we force on each other and thus creates disturbances to our inner peace.
Guys who can’t handle women are insecure in themselves and don’t know what they want and who they are. This life IMO is worth living because women bring it meaning and depth and I couldn’t imagine a world without them despite both our flaws. We are not made to be exclusive. This is something socially we force on each other and thus creates disturbances to our inner peace.
Here is the other side of the coin.
Ever noticed how many women turn lesbo or have gone solo. No intimate relationships with men. Kathleen Wynne is the classic example. Married, had her two kids and then turned lesbo. Then there are the financially independent women who have gone solo.
Ever noticed how many women turn lesbo or have gone solo. No intimate relationships with men. Kathleen Wynne is the classic example. Married, had her two kids and then turned lesbo. Then there are the financially independent women who have gone solo.
