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The Two Faces of Islam?

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina50502.htm

It is true that not every Muslim is a terrorist. A group of Muslims are extremists while others are peaceful and moderate. However, these two groups are not separated from each other. The line of demarcation between them is blurred. Actually there is no such line dividing the extremists from the moderates. They are all Muslims. The difference is in degrees and the strength of their faith. The extremists and the terrorists are those with stronger faith and the moderates are those with weaker faith. So there are no two faces of Islam as Schwartz put it. Muslims come in all hues and shades. The stronger is their faith, the more extremists they become.

Instead of thinking of Muslims as two separate groups, moderates and extremists, think of them as one group gathered around a fire. Those who are farthest from the fire are the nominal Muslims. The nominal Muslims are the average Muslims whom we are most familiar with. They could be our coworkers, our business associates or our neighbors. They dress like us and live like us, their children play with our children and they are working hard to put food on the table, pay their mortgage and live a normal life. They believe in the five pillars of the Islamic faith, some perform prayers, and some don’t. They may fast during the month of Ramadan and if they can afford, they go to pilgrimage in Mecca at least once in their lifetime but most don’t, even when they can afford it.

As you move closer to the fire you find Muslims becoming more attached to Islam, they meticulously perform their religious obligations, they read the Quran, regularly, go to the mosque, pay zakat, eat only halal food, dress Islamicly, believe in conspiracy theories about the Jews running the world, hate America, have not read Noam Chomsky but recommend his books, see the world divided in Muslim/kafir dichotomy, rationalize suicide bombings as legitimate fight against “oppression”, etc.

As you approach closer, you find the fanatics who are consumed by their zealotry and become terrorists and Jihadis. These people are all Muslims. The only difference between them is in degree of their adherence to Islam. There is no guarantee that a moderate nominal Muslim will remain moderate always. He can become attracted to the fire of zealotry and become a terrorist overnight. All it takes for nominal Muslims to become terrorists, is that they face a crisis. And if they are young, there is a chance that they become extremists and even terrorists. As long as Muslims look at Islam as the ultimate source of guidance, there is a risk that anyone of them become a terrorist in a heartbeat.
 

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the article is misleading , steve jobs biological father was the son of a millionaire. not a migrant or refugee at all lol.. come to think of it the article is completely wrong
twizz and anon1 are committed to promoting lies and propaganda. It's one stupid drawing and sloganeering after another with these two.

Fortunately, it doesn't stick, because smarter people are committed to dispelling the lies.
 

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Trudeau's knee jerk reaction to a photo during the election campaign will cost us at least $1.2 billion.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syrian-refugees-billion-six-years-1.3327780
We've got our own Obama.

Now that the average Canadian understands the cost (the $1.2 billion is an estimate - it will cost MUCH MORE guaranteed - the government has a penchant for doubling or tripling actual costs), and witnessed the Paris attacks, they realize that this is a bad idea.

This plan never should have been in the cards. It was obviously a bad idea from the start, but if somebody suggested this a month ago, they would have been shamed.
 
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Toronto's former Humber River Hospital is one of the sites being considered to temporarily house a large influx of Syrian refugees expected in Ontario.
The province has committed to taking in 10,000 refugees by the end of 2016. Meanwhile, the federal government has pledged to take in 25,000 by the end of the year.
According to Ontario Health Minister Eric Hoskins, while the province doesn't yet know how many refugees Ottawa will ask them to take in before the end of 2015, he told The Canadian Press earlier this week Ontario is prepared to receive its "fair share."

He said one of the options the provincial government is looking at is to temporarily house the refugees is recently-decommissioned hospitals. That includes the former site of Toronto's Humber River Hospital.
Last month, inpatients of the hospital were transferred to a new facility, located near Wilson Avenue and Keele Street. The move meant that the former site, located near Keele Street and Finch Avenue West, now sits empty.
The idea of using the now-vacant buildings is being applauded by infectious disease specialist Dr. Neil Rau, who said many of the refugees will likely have health concerns that will need to be addressed.
"I think it's a good idea because these people are going to have health needs as well as housing needs," Rau told CTV Toronto on Friday. "They're also going to need social workers to meet with them."
Rau said his main concern is whether or not the refugees, particularly the children, have been immunized.
"It's very important to make sure that these people have a catch-up program," Rau explained. "I'm talking about the kids, and even the adults, who may have possibly missed vaccines or even never received vaccines in their childhood."
Syria experienced a polio outbreak in recent years. Rau said Canada needs to be vigilant against the disease, which has been eliminated from most countries, including Canada, thanks to the introduction of an effective polio vaccine. Canada has not seen a homegrown case since 1977.
There remains no treatment or cure for the virus, which is spread mostly through contaminated water and person-to-person contact.
With files from CTV Toronto's Pauline Chan and The Canadian Press

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/former-humber-river-hospital-may-house-syrian-refugees-1.2668284
 

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Syria experienced a polio outbreak in recent years. Rau said Canada needs to be vigilant against the disease, which has been eliminated from most countries, including Canada, thanks to the introduction of an effective polio vaccine. Canada has not seen a homegrown case since 1977.
Some Muslims think polio vaccine is a western plot to kill them.
 

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EU Pledged to Relocate 160,000 Refugees in One Year - Results So Far, 147 in Three Mo

Up to 6,000 refugees pour into Greece every day.

Merkel offered to help countries like Greece with pledge to relocate 160,000 refugees.

Since September, the EU's relocation effort has moved precisely 147 refugees.

By the way, 6,000 a day is 2,190,000 a year

I said Merkel's relocation plan was idiotic the moment she hatched it, but I have to admit the results are far worse than even I expected.
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http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.ch/2015/11/eu-pledged-to-relocate-160000-refugees.html
 

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Growing List of Foreign-Born Muslims Charged With or Convicted of Terrorism in U.S.

https://creepingsharia.wordpress.co...harged-with-or-convicted-of-terrorism-in-u-s/

Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions, Chairman of the Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest, has identified at least 26 instances in which foreign-born individuals inside the U.S. were charged with or convicted of terrorism in the last year or so.
Here’s a sampling of incidents from that list:
– An immigrant brought here by his family from Kuwait at a young age, and who was later approved for U.S. citizenship, carried out the Islamist attack that recently killed 4 military personnel in Chattanooga. (July 2015)
– An Uzbek refugee living in Idaho was arrested and charged with providing support to a terrorist organization, in the form of teaching terror recruits how to build bombs. (July 2015)
– An immigrant from Ghana, who applied for and received U.S. citizenship, pledged allegiance to ISIS and plotted a terrorist attack on U.S. soil. (June 2015)
– An immigrant from Sudan, who applied for and received U.S. citizenship, tried to join ISIS and wage jihad on its behalf after having been recruited online. (June 2015)
– An Iraqi immigrant, who later applied for and received U.S. citizenship, was arrested for lying to federal agents about pledging allegiance to ISIS and his travels to Syria. (May 2015)
– An immigrant from Syria, who later applied for and received U.S. citizenship, was accused by federal prosecutors of planning to “go to a military base in Texas and kill three or four American soldiers execution style.” (April 2015)
– An immigrant from Yemen, who applied for and received U.S. citizenship, along with six other men, was charged with conspiracy to travel to Syria and provide material support to ISIS. (April 2015)
– An immigrant from Saudi Arabia, who applied for and received U.S. citizenship, swore allegiance to ISIS and pledged to explode a propane tank bomb on U.S. soil. (April 2015)
– A Uzbek man in Brooklyn encouraged other Uzbeki nationals to wage jihad on behalf of ISIS, and raised $1,600 for the terror organization. (April 2015)
– A Kazakhstani immigrant with lawful permanent resident status conspired to purchase a machine gun to shoot FBI and other law enforcement agents if they prevented him from traveling to Syria to join ISIS. (February 2015)
– A Bosnian refugee, along with his wife and five relatives, donated money and supplies, and smuggled arms, to terrorist organizations in Syria and Iraq. (February 2015)
– Six members of Minnesota’s Somali-American refugee community have recently been charged with trying to join ISIS. TheWashington Times reported that “the effort [to resettle large groups of Somali refugees in Minnesota] is having the unintended consequence of creating an enclave of immigrants with high unemployment that is both stressing the state’s safety net and creating a rich pool of potential recruiting targets for Islamist terror groups.” (February 2015)
– A college student who immigrated from Somalia who later applied for and received U.S. citizenship, attempted to blow up a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Oregon. (October 2014)
– An immigrant from Afghanistan, who later applied for and received U.S. citizenship, and a legal permanent resident from the Philippines, were convicted for “join Al Qaeda and the Taliban in order to kill Americans.” (September 2014)
– An immigrant from Yemen, who later applied for and received U.S. citizenship, was arrested for trying to join ISIS. He was also charged with attempting to illegally buy firearms to try to shoot American military personnel. (September 2014)
– A Somali immigrant with lawful permanent resident status, along with four other Somali nationals, is charged with leading an al-Shabaab fundraising conspiracy in the United States, with monthly payments directed to the Somali terrorist organization. (July 2014)
– An immigrant from Bangladesh, who applied for and received U.S. citizenship, tried to incite people to travel to Somalia and conduct violent jihad against the United States. (June 2014)
– A Moroccan national who came tot he U.S. on a student Visa was arrested for plotting to blow up a university and federal court house. (April 2014)
– The Boston bombers were invited in as refugees. The younger brother applied for citizenship and was naturalized on September 11th, 2012. The older brother had a pending application for citizenship. (April 2013)
– Two immigrants form Pakistan, who later applied for and received U.S. citizenship, were sentenced to decades-long prison sentences for plotting to detonate a bomb in New York City. (2012)

Haven’t been reading Creeping Sharia over the last few years? Here’s a sampling of what we post on every day, nearly SEVENTY have been arrested in America over ISIS plots in the last 18 months:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-refugees-given-safe-haven-turned-terror.html
 

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The provinces say the will have no problem with 25,000 and could take more.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/john-mccallum-syrian-refugee-conference-1.3328851
Can't wait to read the plan on Tuesday. It'll be good for a laugh.

What all of this signals is how out of touch politicians (the untouchable elite class) are with the people they're supposed to represent.

They're like Canadian teachers - completely out to lunch with how those who pay their salaries (the tax payer) feel about them.
 

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I have been pondering why now the paris attacks happened, if ISIS's plan is to infiltrate the west on the backs of syrian refugees then an attack in paris would simply retard their objective as every country now is having 2nd thoughts over accepting syrian refugees.

Then I ran across this short but elequent video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmKpm_9BtHc

ISIS does not have the reach or resources to carry out massive attacks on the west, I am talking about scales of attacks that would threaten to destroy the west, instead they are playing on the ingrained racist tendencies within us all and turning it into an us vs them war. Us being non musilms, and them being muslims, us being scared of terrorism to the point where we demonize all muslims, them being at the receiving end of unjustified hostility will turn moderate muslims into terrorists.

It is a good plan, once enough hostility is built up on both sides and moderates on both sides switch to extremism this fire will fuel itself without needing ISIS to fan the flames. This strategy is very good, I would give ISIS a pat on the back for it but they did not come up with it, throughout history similar strategies have been employed, it is just that our collective memory is poor and we forget.
 

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I have been pondering why now the paris attacks happened, if ISIS's plan is to infiltrate the west on the backs of syrian refugees then an attack in paris would simply retard their objective as every country now is having 2nd thoughts over accepting syrian refugees.

Then I ran across this short but elequent video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmKpm_9BtHc

ISIS does not have the reach or resources to carry out massive attacks on the west, I am talking about scales of attacks that would threaten to destroy the west, instead they are playing on the ingrained racist tendencies within us all and turning it into an us vs them war. Us being non musilms, and them being muslims, us being scared of terrorism to the point where we demonize all muslims, them being at the receiving end of unjustified hostility will turn moderate muslims into terrorists.

It is a good plan, once enough hostility is built up on both sides and moderates on both sides switch to extremism this fire will fuel itself without needing ISIS to fan the flames. This strategy is very good, I would give ISIS a pat on the back for it but they did not come up with it, throughout history similar strategies have been employed, it is just that our collective memory is poor and we forget
And how successfull has this strategy been in the past??

Can you give us examples??
 

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PHILIPSBURG, St. Maarten – Three Syrians traveling with fake Greek passports are being held in the Dutch Caribbean island of St. Maarten, authorities said, while officials in the Central American nation of Honduras reported detaining a Syrian and two Pakistanis traveling by bus Saturday.

The St. Maarten public prosecutor's office said that the three Syrians were detained Nov. 14 and that an investigation was still trying to determine their identities and how and where they obtained the fake documents. Officials said they did not believe the Syrians are tied to any terrorist groups and had not asked for asylum.

Honduran officials said a Syrian woman and two Pakistanis were detained after they crossed into the country by bus from Nicaragua.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/1...sports-detained-in-dutch-caribbean-island-st/
 

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And how successfull has this strategy been in the past??

Can you give us examples??
911 was similar, OBL attacked the US, got the US to overreact and invade afghanistan, afghanis would be incensed at the invasion and fight tooth and nail against it like they did against the russians and the US would be bleed to death. 911 did work, though not exactly as OBL intended but it did lay down a solid foundation of division between the west and Muslims which is still paying dividends to OBL long after his death. It worked so well infact that we Canadians feel justified in not lending a helping hand towards Muslims no matter how dire the circumstances.

Many of us wondered how the germans were so easily manipulated by Hitler, we never ask if it can happen to us or more devastatingly; is it now happening to us.
 
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