European Refugee Crisis
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There millions in refugee camps in turkey and other places.
There were reports that germany would take 800k but who knows
Canada so far has approved 1200 with 1000 of those being paid for by private citizens. The amazing thing is chris alexander going around saying canada has done more than any other country. Its crazy
There were reports that germany would take 800k but who knows
Canada so far has approved 1200 with 1000 of those being paid for by private citizens. The amazing thing is chris alexander going around saying canada has done more than any other country. Its crazy
You're watching too much Fox News Kool-Aid.
If Assad is such a tyrant, why is the Syrian Army keeping on fighting when it is in majority Sunni? (the answer is that Assad is the only guarantor of a secular Syria). If Assad persecutes minorities, why are some of his top generals Christians? Even the Syrian Army Colonel the RCMP seeks extradited for torturing Arar is a Christian.
People are fleeing Syria because ISIS is gaining more and more territory and the Syrian Army is exhausted. After 5 years of fighting, they see little hope of ever going back to their ISIS occupied homes again. Ask any Syrian living in Canada and they will tell you that Assad is their guy who kept this multi-confessional country peaceful.
The riots 5 years ago were the result of severe drought for the previous 5 years that resulted in a large proportion of rural area residents coming to cities. Then food prices went up and riots took place. Don't believe especially US mainstream media, as they are controlled by about 3 major US corporations. They toe the US policy line and even if their journalists ask their government embarrassing questions, that never appears in their news stories. The US news media routinely censors their news in order to fit the narrative and not appear unpatriotic. Being patriotic is not questioning the government line; US journalistic ethics and independence of Watergate and Viet-Nam era are dead; journalist jobs are few and not writing the right stuff gets you fired. Same thing happened to the run-up to the 2003 US invasion of Iraq under the pretext of WMD; no major news media questioned the narrative, except Knight-Ridder News Service.
The US is only interested in regime change because Assad is in the Russian camp and refuses to cow-tow to US foreign policy. With Assad out of the picture, any regime (including ISIS) replacing him is seen as beneficial to their goals: the establishment of a gas pipeline to carry Qatari and Saudi natural gas directly to Europe through Syria and Turkey. Saudi Arabia has another objective: as Assad is allied to Iran (so is Iraq BTW), it would eliminate Iranian influence over Iran friendly Iraq, Shiite controlled Syria and Shiite Hezbollah in Lebanon. They see Iranian influence over the largely Saudi-Shiite population in Eastern Saudi-Arabia , who Riyadh treats like dirt, as threatening. That's also why they're bombing Yemen back into the stone age: because they could not keep their puppet despot in Saana and the Shiite Houtis, who they suspect have Iranian backing, have popular support.
This is not about saving Syrians from oppression or harm. Its about US geopolitics (including reducing Russian influence) and Saudi dominance over the Middle East.
According to the UN, 72% of those fleeing to Europe in this crisis are men, only 13% women and 15% children.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-migrants-and-the-elites-1441924372
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-migrants-and-the-elites-1441924372
Muslim radicals in Germany are trying to recruit some of the growing numbers of asylum seekers reaching the country, according to intelligence services quoted by the German news agency DPA.
http://www.thelocal.de/20150911/salafists-trying-to-win-refugees-for-cause
http://www.thelocal.de/20150911/salafists-trying-to-win-refugees-for-cause
Yup! Send back the 800,000 refugees straight back to Syria, in case some radical muslims in Germany, whom intelligence and police services are already tracking, risk converting a few.
Maybe they should prevent Saudi Arabia from financing and building those hundreds of mosques and madras' that are succesfully brainwashing young impressionable people into joining armed Jihadi groups, like they have been so successfully doing in Pakistan?
Oh Wait! Saudi Arabia is our staunch ally. We could never do that! They may get angry and cut off the oil!
Oh Wait! There's too much Saudi/OPEC oil already and that's driving the US shale oil industry into bankruptcy!
Oh Wait! Maybe Saudi Arabia isn't such a close ally after all!
I'd be kind of pissed off too if some foreign powers financed and armed criminal fanatics that waged war all over the countryside and forced me to flee to safety to a foreign country by way of rickety boat crossings on the open sea, and I was forced to sleep on the ground in limbo between the border of 2 states who's citizens despise me for being there and wanting to save my life.
That's because, having spent a shitload of cash on business class travel and 5 star hotels, there wasn't enough money left to take the rest of the family even in economy class.
So selfish of them. And I imagine they now want 5 star refugee class hotels along with fine dining while the rest of the family eats slop in Turkish camps, dodge bullets in what's left of Syria, or the eldest daughter peddles her ass in a refugee camp so she can feed the rest of the family on way overpriced food!
//sarcasm off//
Aren't you a men's rights guy?
Couldn't read the wsj story so I went to the un website
http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php
That data says fifty fifty. Strange
Well the un website stats also showed more than fifty percent less than 17- so kids
It's pretty fucked that the Kurds who have embraced terrorism for the past decades are seen as the best option.
Around 4 million registered refugees, over 7 million displaced people who haven't left Syria yet.
What Iraq was missing and what Syria will need after this is a Marshall Plan but considering most countries aren't willing to pick up the tab for a few refugees, I doubt they support the rebuilding of the failed middle east dictatorships.
I think the Kurds fought back because they were oppressed by both Saddam and the Turks.
Because
a) the common soldiers know that if they try to leave they will be killed
b) the higher brass live a comfortable corrupt life
c) they worry about the retaliation they will get as a former Assad killer.
And the Iranians. Yes the Kurds got screwed in 1919 but that does not justify terrorism.
