Escorting Rates Going Down in Ottawa
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That's pretty much the standard rate for hh massage in most Spa in town. Its kind of a niche experience, certainly not everyone's cup of tea; there seems to be plenty of traffic, more spas re setting up shop so business must be good. There are a few Independents that offer both massage and FS, better bang for your buck, IMO. I have on occasion dabbled in MPs but only when I am in a certain kind of mood. Most SPs do not offer the kind of deep tissue massage only an experienced MP can dole out.
Capital Hunter, I have the same observation as yours, prices are going down and shorter session are on the menu more frequently. Your post make me wonder that once we have Nordic model and all Johns are criminalized there would be less number of customers for obvious reasons, this will definitely bring the prices further down based on supply and demand principle. I may retire then too because it's too risky to be on the wrong side of the law and stakes are too high, this will leave a very good pricing for those who would still be partaking in this hobby. I am already getting jealous
. LolPrices will be cheaper for unknown Backpage.com providers, but probably higher for the established ones. We'll pay a premium for reducing the odds of a sting, basically.Capital Hunter, I have the same observation as yours, prices are going down and shorter session are on the menu more frequently. Your post make me wonder that once we have Nordic model and all Johns are criminalized there would be less number of customers for obvious reasons, this will definitely bring the prices further down based on supply and demand principle. I may retire then too because it's too risky to be on the wrong side of the law and stakes are too high, this will leave a very good pricing for those who would still be partaking in this hobby. I am already getting jealous
Well maybe they should lower prices in the Toronto area. Prices here are through the roof and the service went down the drain.
Accept it or not BP has become new De Facto board for escorting. Even the ladies who were long time Cerbites and never posted on Craigslist are now posting on BP, some using different names. And with the constant decline of ads and quality if reviews on cerb there is no alternative in Ottawa but to use Terb as review board and BP as the advertising medium.
So rates decline on BP is a decline for the while escorting scene except some ladies who are adamant with their rates and liaison clients, btw few ladies lost me to BP too. And about the quality of escorts BP has a range you can get girls from 50$ to 240$. Some of the girls I saw on BP are so gorgeous last year I would pay 300$ Easily this year I am seeng them in 180$ an hour. Bring on the new laws they are actually going to hurt escorts more and benefit John (law breakers at that time) more.
To reduce demand you don't need everybody's pants zipped, even if 20% guys quit it will put further downward pressure on the rates.
Sugarman, I really agree with you, my comments were in response of what whiteman wrote, see I quoted his text not yours. I am talking about following comments:
"To reduce demand you don't need everybody's pants zipped, even if 20% guys quit it will put further downward pressure on the rates. "
"To reduce demand you don't need everybody's pants zipped, even if 20% guys quit it will put further downward pressure on the rates. "
Having lived and worked in the US, I don't see this law having a permanent price impact on the industry. There will be an adjustment period where part time, transient and providers who cater to one offs will lower rates because their phones slow down and many of them will leave the industry entirely so supply may become less than it is now. Established providers will tighten their belts, see fewer clients and continue on with their lives without lowering prices. New clients will gravitate towards established providers that they know aren't LE. Once we see how the police are going to take action with the new laws, we will adjust and keep on; as we always do...
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I am with Catherine on this, I think that if guys are only really comfortable with the more well known ladies, less and less ladies will enter the supply side, and the demand side will likely be concentrated more on a smaller number of ladies, and voila, prices may go up. Today, it is so easy to enter, advertise and draw attention, that the supply side grows easily. So, today we are likely facing the lower end of pricing, and likely to see things go up.
I am a frugal (read cheap) as any guy, so I do look out for the bargains, attempting to wade through and find the gems. Right now, you can get great value, many lovely ladies out there.
I am a frugal (read cheap) as any guy, so I do look out for the bargains, attempting to wade through and find the gems. Right now, you can get great value, many lovely ladies out there.
The prevalence of ads on Backpage has nothing to do with Cerb (which is the same as it's always been, wishful thinking aside). Backpage today is the equivalent of Craigslist a few years ago, which in turn took over from the classified section. It's the quick and easy way to advertise for new providers, sketchy agencies, people breezing through from Toronto or Montreal, etc. The vast majority of them don't even know sites like Cerb exist. If they happen to stick with the business or join an established agency, then they might discover the other sites.
Personally I would never touch anyone who only advertised there. Too much of a chance of being scammed or being caught in some kind of exploitative situation. Some of those ads scream sex trafficking.
My observation is that prices are lowest in places where prostitution is legal (Germany, Thailand, New Zealand). Prices are higher in places where some or all of the business is illegal. Compare American (illegal) vs. Canadian (legal) prices, for example. Under a nordic style situation, where purchase is criminal, I would expect prices to go up, not down.
One of the reasons I think prices in Ottawa are coming down a bit is the recent court decision. If nothing else, there are a lot more ladies in the business now than a year or more ago so supply is definitely up. I can't judge if the demand side of the equation has changed but it's possible it has gone up as well. It's also possible that the court decision really had no impact as the industry has been growing I would say consistently for many years. OR, maybe it just sped things up a bit.
I would be interested to know if the Swedish model has actually had an impact on independent escorts who do their business by phone and email. I can see how it would have a large impact on street walkers as their clients are quite obvious to police and they do their business in public. In a Swedish system, where it is legal to sell sex, how can the police identify purchasers of independent escorts? If a sp advertises her phone number, a client calls her and sets up a meeting, how can the police prove what is going on privately between them? I probably don't understand all the details but it seems to me very little would change for sps, other than those who work on the streets. Can anyone provide any first hand information on what is really going on in Sweden? I suspect most of the claims by the Swedish government are inaccurate or apply only to street walkers.
One of the reasons I think prices in Ottawa are coming down a bit is the recent court decision. If nothing else, there are a lot more ladies in the business now than a year or more ago so supply is definitely up. I can't judge if the demand side of the equation has changed but it's possible it has gone up as well. It's also possible that the court decision really had no impact as the industry has been growing I would say consistently for many years. OR, maybe it just sped things up a bit.
I would be interested to know if the Swedish model has actually had an impact on independent escorts who do their business by phone and email. I can see how it would have a large impact on street walkers as their clients are quite obvious to police and they do their business in public. In a Swedish system, where it is legal to sell sex, how can the police identify purchasers of independent escorts? If a sp advertises her phone number, a client calls her and sets up a meeting, how can the police prove what is going on privately between them? I probably don't understand all the details but it seems to me very little would change for sps, other than those who work on the streets. Can anyone provide any first hand information on what is really going on in Sweden? I suspect most of the claims by the Swedish government are inaccurate or apply only to street walkers.
If you had the ability to respond to criticism rather than deflecting it by making it all about a "personal attack"... *waits for the "It's because I'm a MAN" protest*
It wouldn't matter anyway. After many years of you doing this with hundreds of girls, you'd think that an evolution would take place. But no, the epitome of a good time is still a covered blow job with a 19 year old with a lush kitty and you still hang on every word they say.
Your own life experience has yielded very little insight so someone else's anecdote won't be digested properly either. Whatever valuable information that could come from it will have the essential bits stripped out and all we'll get here is the steaming pile of shit left behind.
I started my career in the mid 80's for a large "Escort Agency" in a major city and it was simple prostitution then as well. The rate was $220/hr and we did multiple hours the same as agency girls do them now but they didn't discount for multiple hours the way escorts do today...
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Back in the early 1990s when I first got into this "hobby", paid companionship was the angle used by agencies advertising in the yellow pages. It was pretty obvious that the service offered was the same as the more direct ads in the classified section, but it's not like the yellow pages would accept that kind of honest advertising.
In my younger years (mid-1970s), I worked as a desk clerk for one of the seedier hotels in town. I remember one guy came in and rented a room. The rooms were cheap as hell - $8.50 for a single or $12.00 for a double! Don't ask me why I still remember this stuff.
Once he was settled in his room, he wanted to place a call. At that time, the hotel had an old fashioned operator system where I would have to dial & put the call through to the room. As it happened, it was to an Escort Agency. The guy didn't have any luggage, so I knew something was afoot. For shits & giggles, I listened in on the conversation & the guy was talking with the agency manager asking for a "companion". Sure enough, about an hour later a bored looking girl showed up and asked where the room was. Said girl was wearing a see-through top that left very little to the imagination. As I was admiring her tits, I gave her the room number. After about an hour, girl tromps down the stairs & leaves. 15min later, guy tromps down the stairs & leaves...didn't even bother checking out (lazy bastard).
Technically, I wasn't supposed to allow that kind of stuff - but hey, it was a slow day & the hotel needed the cash. That was a great job btw. Got to experience all sorts of weird shit.
Point being - Escorts (male/female) are publicly portrayed as arm candy, but let's be realistic here...
Once he was settled in his room, he wanted to place a call. At that time, the hotel had an old fashioned operator system where I would have to dial & put the call through to the room. As it happened, it was to an Escort Agency. The guy didn't have any luggage, so I knew something was afoot. For shits & giggles, I listened in on the conversation & the guy was talking with the agency manager asking for a "companion". Sure enough, about an hour later a bored looking girl showed up and asked where the room was. Said girl was wearing a see-through top that left very little to the imagination. As I was admiring her tits, I gave her the room number. After about an hour, girl tromps down the stairs & leaves. 15min later, guy tromps down the stairs & leaves...didn't even bother checking out (lazy bastard).
Technically, I wasn't supposed to allow that kind of stuff - but hey, it was a slow day & the hotel needed the cash. That was a great job btw. Got to experience all sorts of weird shit.
Point being - Escorts (male/female) are publicly portrayed as arm candy, but let's be realistic here...
As the OP of this thread I ask guys and girls to please refrain from making personal comments. I thank all the contributors and I got a lot of valuable information specially from our respectable ladies cause they have a life in it so they can give a better and more informed opinion. Hopefully rates won't go down to a level where it becomes hard to survive for gorgeous ladies who are making Ottawa a place worth living.
