Encryption and Society

[SchlongConery]

The FBI vs Apple issue has pretty much polarized society.

For a really well researched, yet entertaining, take on this issue have a look at this video from Sunday

 

[SchlongConery]

The FBI says they bypassed the passcode erase function so no longer need Apple's help.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/fbi-san-bernardino-iphone-break-1.3509899

I wonder what the back story is on this!

 

[TeeJay]

FBI 1 Apple 0

Apple now claims that FBI intercepted their server hardware lol to alter it somehow
No idea if just random paranoia or truth since both side in this fight are batshit crazy

 

[basketcase]

What I find amusing is how some people are so upset by government collecting data but allow private companies to endlessly mine their data.

 

[fuji]

What I find amusing is how some people are so upset by government collecting data but allow private companies to endlessly mine their data.

Governments have a much more pervasive impact on your life. It is not the collection of information itself that is a concern, but what they will DO with it.

Governments can jail you, add you to no fly lists, deny you entry at a border, make it illegal for you to work, fine you, tax you, etc, private companies are only going to spam you with unwanted advertising.

The real concern with private companies collecting information is actually that it will wind up in the hands of government.

 

[SkyRider]

Governments can jail you, add you to no fly lists, deny you entry at a border, make it illegal for you to work, fine you, tax you, etc,

Yeah, look at all the power that Prime Minister Trudeau has. He knows where you live and he knows how much money you make and he wants all of it. On the other hand, I think he said he will keep us safe.

 

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Governments have a much more pervasive impact on your life. It is not the collection of information itself that is a concern, but what they will DO with it.

Its not the governments we should be worried about, its big corporations like google, facebook, LinkedIn, etc...all gathering data on us. How much data do they already have, and what are doing doing with it through AI algorithms. How much correlation is going on being closed doors. They know more about us then we know about ourselves. This government argument is just sand to blind and scare us while the corporations are already stealing this data under our feet.

This is one perfect example...

How Target Figured Out A Teen Girl Was Pregnant Before Her Father Did
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmir...-pregnant-before-her-father-did/#4d05ba2634c6

Again, we are fearing the wrong people.

 

[fuji]

What's Google going to do to you?

Worst things can only happen to you if they give information to the government.

 

[SkyRider]

its big corporations like google, facebook, LinkedIn, etc...all gathering data on us. How much data do they already have, and what are doing doing with it through AI algorithms.

All that information and these big corporations never uncovered one terrorist plot, same with Anonymous and that a-hole Snowden. All as useless as tits on a bull when it comes to protecting our safety.

 

[SchlongConery]

All that information and these big corporations never uncovered one terrorist plot, same with Anonymous and that a-hole Snowden. All as useless as tits on a bull when it comes to protecting our safety.

How stupid a comment is that?

Since when is it Google's responsibility to uncover terrorist's plots? Why hasn't YOUR employer uncovered a terrorist plot?

 

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What's Google going to do to you?

Worst things can only happen to you if they give information to the government.

They have all my search habits I do without VPN on.

They know I like MPA and escorts.

Amazon knows all the items I buy.

Linkedin knows my employment history.

This gets into the wrong hands and I'm fucked.

Why if I wanted to run for office, this is a risk.

When I search twitter and the wife's boots pop up on the bottom she just searched then the next day a single dating add appears out of nowhere.

The Ashely Madison is only the beginning. If someone created intelligent crawler bots to correlate various data such as IPs ID and data and location, a lot more people would have been fucked.

This is in the hands of the private industry. I have no idea what they can do with it.

 

[SchlongConery]

Yeah, look at all the power that Prime Minister Trudeau has. He knows where you live and he knows how much money you make and he wants all of it. On the other hand, I think he said he will keep us safe.

Again, another idiotic comment.

Do you have Asperbergers? Seriously. You don't sem to have any control of the textual diarehah you have dribbled out 9,712 times. And that is not including the incontinence of Blackcock either!

 

[fuji]

They have all my search habits I do without VPN on.

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This gets into the wrong hands and I'm fucked.

You mean, into government hands.

 

[SchlongConery]

They have all my search habits I do without VPN on.

They know I like MPA and escorts.

Amazon knows all the items I buy.

Linkedin knows my employment history.

This gets into the wrong hands and I'm fucked.

Why if I wanted to run for office, this is a risk.

When I search twitter and the wife's boots pop up on the bottom she just searched then the next day a single dating add appears out of nowhere.

The Ashely Madison is only the beginning. If someone created intelligent crawler bots to correlate various data, a lot more people would have been fucked.

This is in the hands of the private industry. I have no idea what they can do with it.

Well if the Government had this data they could arrest you and put you in jail until you spent all your money on lawyers to get your out.

Our society places a much higher value on LIBERTY than on commerce. So whatever you think about the dreaded bogeyman of Big Business, they can't incarcerate you, take away your passport, or seize your property with the same information that that government could

 

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Again, another idiotic comment.

Do you have Asperbergers? Seriously. You don't sem to have any control of the textual diarehah you have dribbled out 9,712 times. And that is not including the incontinence of Blackcock either!

Don't go there. Some people might actually have this reading the forum and might not feel too good about it. Keep it above the belt please. I don't like when people use mental illness or disability to make fun or put down or belittle. Not cool!

 

[SkyRider]

"Law enforcement officials were able to break into the phone used by Syed Farook with the help of an unnamed third party."

Two rumors of the "unnamed third party" that I heard, for what they are worth.

1) The codebreakers are Israelis. We all know how smart the Jews are. One founded Facebook and one co-founded Google.

2) The codebreaker(s) is a former Apple employee, a true patriot.

I hope Apple gets royally screwed the next time they need any help from the government.

 

[SkyRider]

Don't go there. Some people might actually have this reading the forum and might not feel too good about it. Keep it above the belt please.

Don't engage him. His words speaks volume about his character.

 

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You mean, into government hands.

I don't think it will ever happen here in Canada with the government due to all the red tape human rights etc.. The people will resist it. Just look at the mess they made on the native reserves asking all the men for DNA samples.

Obviously if they start marking all of our IPs if obtained from terb and started issuing search warrants would create a shit storm and could be very dangerous.

The likely hood of this information falling into the wrong hands from the private sector is much greater then it falling into the government hands for ill intentions IMO.

 

[SkyRider]

Just look at the mess they made on the native reserves asking all the men for DNA samples.

On the other hand, I don't remember any big or even small stink when the police asked Holly Jones' male neighbors to volunteer their DNA. Yeah, yeah, I known some members on this Board said they will never volunteer their DNA because it is not their job to help the police (and they worry about what happens to the DNA).

 

[SchlongConery]

Don't go there. Some people might actually have this reading the forum and might not feel too good about it. Keep it above the belt please. I don't like when people use mental illness or disability to make fun or put down or belittle. Not cool!

I agree. Sorry to those whose feelings I might have hurt. There was actually a terbie I met in person long ago who did have Asperbergers who I met in person to help sort out his mp3 player. he was a super nice guy.