So I got a new car. 2015 Honda Accord. The option for rust proofing was a electronic module for rust proofing. I told them that I have heard negative reviews about this. They said that Honda supports this and with technology advancing, then its a good thing? Since Honda is using it, should I belive in it? 5 year warranty and 10 year warranty with the module again rust.
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Electronic Rust Proofing?
- Thread starter newtohobby
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I decided against it for my new car. Not that I know anything, but it just sounds like science fiction to me. If it actually works, why wouldn't they just install this module at the factory when they're building the car?
It's a dealer scam.
"Honda supports it". Sure, then show me that Honda supports it on a TSB from Honda. They won't do that.
All this is is cathodic protection. It's not new technology in the least. The question is whether or not you need it.
Cars no longer rust out like they used to. Better design, galvanizing, electrostically applied primers and paints, etc have all come together for a huge improvement in the material engineering of the car.
Used to be that they wanted to sell you on spraying tar on the underside of your car (a huge scam). Problem was that it voided your factory warrantee for corrosion (which has to be perforation before it applies anyway.) I don't know if the cathodic protection does the same thing or not, i.e. you warrantee with the maker of the module and not Honda. (I'm guessing that that is the case, though it's hard to see how this would void the factory warrantee, but you never know.)
End of the day - all rust proofing is a scam.
Never buy ANY dealer add ons. You buy the car from them and thank you very much.
"Honda supports it". Sure, then show me that Honda supports it on a TSB from Honda. They won't do that.
All this is is cathodic protection. It's not new technology in the least. The question is whether or not you need it.
Cars no longer rust out like they used to. Better design, galvanizing, electrostically applied primers and paints, etc have all come together for a huge improvement in the material engineering of the car.
Used to be that they wanted to sell you on spraying tar on the underside of your car (a huge scam). Problem was that it voided your factory warrantee for corrosion (which has to be perforation before it applies anyway.) I don't know if the cathodic protection does the same thing or not, i.e. you warrantee with the maker of the module and not Honda. (I'm guessing that that is the case, though it's hard to see how this would void the factory warrantee, but you never know.)
End of the day - all rust proofing is a scam.
Never buy ANY dealer add ons. You buy the car from them and thank you very much.
Cathodic protection is still used in boat hulls and pipelines even today. I was under the impression this technology was only needed when the device was immersed in seawater, or underground in certain soil types or when subject to contact to certain chemicals. It's been a few years since I took my materials classes.
My buddy has a MACK truck that has a sacrificial anode system installed (It has the MACK name stamped on the controller box). I asked him about it and he claimed it was normal in long haul trucks that were driven in salt air (near the oceans). I don't know if it was truly a MACK installed device or a aftermarket scam.
I definitely won't get it installed in my car. Just looking around at the cars on the road ..... rust isn't a problem anymore.
My buddy has a MACK truck that has a sacrificial anode system installed (It has the MACK name stamped on the controller box). I asked him about it and he claimed it was normal in long haul trucks that were driven in salt air (near the oceans). I don't know if it was truly a MACK installed device or a aftermarket scam.
I definitely won't get it installed in my car. Just looking around at the cars on the road ..... rust isn't a problem anymore.
I definitely won't get it installed in my car. Just looking around at the cars on the road ..... rust isn't a problem anymore.
Unless you own a Mazda. That company doesn't have a clue how to slow down rusting.
Also, a lot of North American pick up trucks still get badly rusted out rear wheel arches after about 5 or 6 years.
Mazda; will always rust.. around the wheel wells and the back lights;
fyi : for cathodic protection I only question it because
vw ; protects you for the life of the car
Hyundai: protects you for 7 years or 10 years
I have always protected my cars ie. rust check; except for my last one its 10 yrs old...
fyi : for cathodic protection I only question it because
vw ; protects you for the life of the car
Hyundai: protects you for 7 years or 10 years
I have always protected my cars ie. rust check; except for my last one its 10 yrs old...
We fell for that gadget in 2001. "This is the future of rust protection on cars. Why, if it's good enough for the US Navy, it's good enough for your Windstar." And what do you see on every ship when it comes into port? Rust, and some crew members out there painting it. We only had that thing a couple years before it started having rust spots. Fucking scam.
We fell for that gadget in 2001. "This is the future of rust protection on cars. Why, if it's good enough for the US Navy, it's good enough for your Windstar." And what do you see on every ship when it comes into port? Rust, and some crew members out there painting it. We only had that thing a couple years before it started having rust spots. Fucking scam.
I'll second that. I have a 2007 Nissan Frontier and bought the dealer electronic rust inhibitor. Guess what, I have rust around the front passenger door hinge bolts and rocker. Fucking scam X2.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...l-an-electronic-rust-inhibitor/article535224/
read the last 2 paragraphs.
I'll second that. I have a 2007 Nissan Frontier and bought the dealer electronic rust inhibitor. Guess what, I have rust around the front passenger door hinge bolts and rocker. Fucking scam X2.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...l-an-electronic-rust-inhibitor/article535224/
read the last 2 paragraphs.
It only protects the chassis, not the entire vehicle
It only protects the chassis, not the entire vehicle
which isn't made clear when they are giving you the sales pitch.
shakenbake
Senior Turgid Member
Cathodic protection can ruin the item that is to be protected if the person who installs it doesn't know how the fuck it's supposed to work, or if they don't consider both potential and current distribution throughout that item. I don't believe that the average third-party after-market entity can do the right job, especially a dealership that would have interests in selling you a new car after only a few years, or keep repairing the one you may have bought from them.
Here's supporting evidence.It's a dealer scam.
Cars no longer rust out like they used to. Better design, galvanizing, electrostically applied primers and paints, etc have all come together for a huge improvement in the material engineering of the car.
Used to be that they wanted to sell you on spraying tar on the underside of your car (a huge scam).
End of the day - all rust proofing is a scam.
I leased cars twice in my life. So basically, I am renting a car that still belongs to them.
They never bothered rust proofing cars that they still owned. That was all the evidence I needed that it was bullshit.
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