tboy said:cop doesn't show....
Keebler Elf said:Unfortunately, it's exactly that my cousin wasn't thinking of the consequences of drinking and driving that got him into trouble.
Not going to SCs b/c you're afraid of running into a police checkpoint is quite different from not going b/c your license has been suspended.
He can plead guilty and start his 1 year suspension immediately (assuming 1st offence) or plead not guilty and have a trial date set.Keebler Elf said:Some more info...
He was given two dates. For the first, he must go to the cop shop for identification, which I assume means fingerprinting and taking a photo.
The second date is about a week later at traffic court. Is that when the charge will be heard, or is that just to set a trial date?
You are both correct.oldjones said:Well, actually it's Canada who says you're a criminal. They just take our word for it, even if you wouldn't be one under their laws. Perhaps that's why we exclude their DUIs—if the SapphireSmurfer's right—because their offence would be Criminal Code stuff here.
stang said:A very sobering thread.
Thanks for raising the issue for everyone's reminded and awareness.
Keebler Elf said:Has anyone ever heard of Mitchell Worsoff from Worsoff & Associates (Barristers & Solicitors)? He works out of north Toronto and specializes in impaired driving cases.
Keebler Elf said:Has anyone ever heard of Mitchell Worsoff from Worsoff & Associates (Barristers & Solicitors)? He works out of north Toronto and specializes in impaired driving cases.
oldjones said:I hope your friend's lesson's already learned—not that the legal system will know or care, but the rest of us sure do, and some good should come from all the trouble.
The worst, but perhaps the cheapest aspect, is the criminal conviction, and pardons are of questionable value. American border guards say, "So some other country pardonned you, ours didn't". While a record check may come up clean after a pardon, as the Quebec judge found out, when they ask "have you ever been convicted of a criminal offence?" you're not entitled to say "No". Put the paperwork from the trial in a safe place, so it's easy to know when the waiting period's passed and where to tell them to look for your record when you apply; they don't take criminals at their word.
Some jobs will be harder to get. Some places will be harder to go. That said, they haven't stopped me at the border yet. Just because they can, doesn't mean the US border guys do look for your record. Don't give them any reason to.
slowpoke said:Does anyone know if our government shares details about Canadians' criminal convictions with US customs personnel at the border? I find that type of thing questionable from a privacy standpoint. I can see maybe major crimes and violent offenders being outed by our own gov't but if someone got busted for some relatively minor, non-violent criminal behaviour and received a suspended sentence, say, 30 or 40 years ago, is our government automatically sharing that with US border guards? I thought we had privacy laws that protected our info unless we consented in writing to a background check. Same with medical records, banking, taxes and all that other private stuff.