Dual Citizens

[SkyRider]

having Canadians who can be stripped of their citizenship because of where they were born, as opposed to Canadian born citizens who cannot, makes for second class citizens.

If this law is so bad why aren't the liberal lefties holding massive protests? I saw a bunch of them protesting to-day --- about the perceived evils of Bill C-51, not second class citizens.

 

[nobody123]

If this law is so bad why aren't the liberal lefties holding massive protests? I saw a bunch of them protesting to-day --- about the perceived evils of Bill C-51, not second class citizens.

Maybe because the outrageous fuckwitted proposals, laws, statements, and actions come so motherfucking fast and furious from the Harperites that it is simply impossible to keep up.

 

[wilbur]

If this law is so bad why aren't the liberal lefties holding massive protests? I saw a bunch of them protesting to-day --- about the perceived evils of Bill C-51, not second class citizens.

It's up to the politicians to raise this issue and get the voters riled up over this. The press isn't going to pick up on it otherwise. So unless Justin or Angry Tom are keeping this issue as a secret weapon against Harper in a debate, I'm afraid that they are missing a fantastic opportunity to turn 7 million voters against Harper. I'd love to have Harper confronted with this in a televised debate. Maybe that's why he doesn't want to show up. For Harper, his policies are strictly about windfall of votes. There are a potential of 1 million ethnic Ukrainian votes driving his agenda against Russia and 2 million potential votes from gun owners, and that's why he's pandering to them (throwing them crumbs, BTW). I'm incredulous that he thinks he can write off the 7 million Canadians born abroad.

His building a monument for those persecuted under communism on the front lawn of the Supreme Court in Ottawa, against the wishes of the city and many public planners strikes me as being very ideological, bordering on hysterics. At the same time, he's signing trade deals with China.

I find this law odious, for a country so dependent on immigration for its future prosperity.

 

[jcpro]

I am now a second class citizen. Unequal before the law.

 

[SkyRider]

he thinks he can write off the 7 million Canadians born abroad.

I would think (hope?) that the vast majority of these 7 million would never take up arms against Canada. I would also think (hope) that dual Canadian citizens would not want someone who takes up arms in Canada to continue to be able to obtain a Canadian passport.

 

[danmand]

BTW, I hope those 7 million Canadians hit Harper and his bunch of moralistic zealots at the ballot box.

One would hope that a lot of Canadians without another citizenship would vote for another party. I know I will.

The law is the pinnacle of stupidity. It does not address a problem and will likely be shot down by the supreme court. It panders to the stupidest of Canadians.

 

[SkyRider]

I am now a second class citizen. Unequal before the law.

But, you have two citizenships. (I only have one.)

Question: How many Canadians hold dual citizenships? Surely, not all 7 million born abroad. How many dual citizens actually live and pay taxes to Canada?

 

[herbnessman]

How many dual citizens actually live and pay taxes to Canada?

Price of tea in China?

 

[John Henry]

So, we're creating two tier citizens. Those who can have their citizenship revoked and those who cannot. A legally obtained citizenship that can be revoked is not worth having.

If an immigrant plans and schemes to commit terrorism , treason or commits espionage against Canada then that person has taken the Oath of Citizenship under false pretenses .

People come to Canada for a better life for themselves and their families . If any immigrant has a problem with Canada then yes , strip the citizenship and ship them back to where they came from . Taking that Oath means that your committing yourself to Canada . If Canada is not good enough for you then FUCKOFF . Plain and simple .

Canada is good enough to take you in and let you become a citizen ( which by the way Canada doesn't have to ) and now a person wishes to commit crimes against Canada . Is that a slap in the face for Canada then I don't know what is .

Becoming a citizen is a privilege not a right . Are we forgetting that . Break the rules for that privilege as with any privilege and yes you can loose it .

A legally obtained ownership is given if you swear allegiance to Canada . Break that allegiance and you loose that ownership .

If anyone feels like a Canadian Citizenship is not worth having then please go back to where you or your family came from and you can be a proud owner of citizenship of that country .

The law bidding immigrants have no problem with this new law . Why would they ??? They love this country just like I do . They're not planning to do any harm to this country unlike these traitors who take the citizenship oath under false pretense.

Yes I'm voting for Harper again . YEA HARPER ... That is my right as a Good Canadian Citizen .

 

[danmand]

I said Pandering to the stupidest of Canadians.
Q.E.D.

"We will take away your Canadian citizenship, except of course we cannot do that if you only have a Canadian citizenship"

Apart from the fact that it is not addressing a problem, it is simply stupid, stupid.

 

[danmand]

If an immigrant plans and schemes to commit terrorism , treason or commits espionage against Canada then that person has taken the Oath of Citizenship under false pretenses .

People come to Canada for a better life for themselves and their families . If any immigrant has a problem with Canada then yes , strip the citizenship and ship them back to where they came from . Taking that Oath means that your committing yourself to Canada . If Canada is not good enough for you then FUCKOFF . Plain and simple .

Canada is good enough to take you in and let you become a citizen ( which by the way Canada doesn't have to ) and now a person wishes to commit crimes against Canada . Is that a slap in the face for Canada then I don't know what is .

Becoming a citizen is a privilege not a right . Are we forgetting that . Break the rules for that privilege as with any privilege and yes you can loose it .

A legally obtained ownership is given if you swear allegiance to Canada . Break that allegiance and you loose that ownership .

If anyone feels like a Canadian Citizenship is not worth having then please go back to where you or your family came from and you can be a proud owner of citizenship of that country .

The law bidding immigrants have no problem with this new law . Why would they ??? They love this country just like I do . They're not planning to do any harm to this country unlike these traitors who take the citizenship oath under false pretense.

Yes I'm voting for Harper again . YEA HARPER ... That is my right as a Good Canadian Citizen .

Except for the last sentence, namely that you have all the rights to vote for Harper, you are completely and utterly wrong.

When somebody become a Canadian citizen, he or she has all the rights and responsibilities of a Canadian citizen. No more and no less than a natural born Canadian.

 

[jcpro]

If an immigrant plans and schemes to commit terrorism , treason or commits espionage against Canada then that person has taken the Oath of Citizenship under false pretenses .

People come to Canada for a better life for themselves and their families . If any immigrant has a problem with Canada then yes , strip the citizenship and ship them back to where they came from . Taking that Oath means that your committing yourself to Canada . If Canada is not good enough for you then FUCKOFF . Plain and simple .

Canada is good enough to take you in and let you become a citizen ( which by the way Canada doesn't have to ) and now a person wishes to commit crimes against Canada . Is that a slap in the face for Canada then I don't know what is .

Becoming a citizen is a privilege not a right . Are we forgetting that . Break the rules for that privilege as with any privilege and yes you can loose it .

A legally obtained ownership is given if you swear allegiance to Canada . Break that allegiance and you loose that ownership .

If anyone feels like a Canadian Citizenship is not worth having then please go back to where you or your family came from and you can be a proud owner of citizenship of that country .

The law bidding immigrants have no problem with this new law . Why would they ??? They love this country just like I do . They're not planning to do any harm to this country unlike these traitors who take the citizenship oath under false pretense.

Yes I'm voting for Harper again . YEA HARPER ... That is my right as a Good Canadian Citizen .

I am NOT an immigrant. I am a Canadian citizen who happened to immigrate here from abroad many decades ago. We have the Charter and the concept of equality before the law in Canada. A concept that is foreign to you. You are not a "Good Canadian Citizen". You're an ignorant POS who happened to be born here, and like all births, by accident as well.

 

[red]

If an immigrant plans and schemes to commit terrorism , treason or commits espionage against Canada then that person has taken the Oath of Citizenship under false pretenses .

People come to Canada for a better life for themselves and their families . If any immigrant has a problem with Canada then yes , strip the citizenship and ship them back to where they came from . Taking that Oath means that your committing yourself to Canada . If Canada is not good enough for you then FUCKOFF . Plain and simple .

Canada is good enough to take you in and let you become a citizen ( which by the way Canada doesn't have to ) and now a person wishes to commit crimes against Canada . Is that a slap in the face for Canada then I don't know what is .

Becoming a citizen is a privilege not a right . Are we forgetting that . Break the rules for that privilege as with any privilege and yes you can loose it .

A legally obtained ownership is given if you swear allegiance to Canada . Break that allegiance and you loose that ownership .

If anyone feels like a Canadian Citizenship is not worth having then please go back to where you or your family came from and you can be a proud owner of citizenship of that country .

The law bidding immigrants have no problem with this new law . Why would they ??? They love this country just like I do . They're not planning to do any harm to this country unlike these traitors who take the citizenship oath under false pretense.

Yes I'm voting for Harper again . YEA HARPER ... That is my right as a Good Canadian Citizen .

Why is harper not stripping citizenship from native born Canadians? I guess he loves Canadian born terrorists

 

[jcpro]

But, you have two citizenships. (I only have one.)

Question: How many Canadians hold dual citizenships? Surely, not all 7 million born abroad. How many dual citizens actually live and pay taxes to Canada?

I have more than two citizenships, actually. It would not make a difference to me if I had ten. We don't discriminate against Canadian citizens based on place of birth. That's unacceptable, illegal and just plain wrong and can only appeal to the Neanderthals among us.

 

[John Henry]

I said Pandering to the stupidest of Canadians.
Q.E.D.

"We will take away your Canadian citizenship, except of course we cannot do that if you only have a Canadian citizenship"

Apart from the fact that it is not addressing a problem, it is simply stupid, stupid.

I live in a province with stupid people . Like all of the stupid people that voted for the Liberals this time around and gave them a majority

Except for the last sentence, namely that you have all the rights to vote for Harper, you are completely and utterly wrong.

When somebody become a Canadian citizen, he or she has all the rights and responsibilities of a Canadian citizen. No more and no less than a natural born Canadian.

Yes but when they go against the country of Canada then those rights don't apply . Why become a citizen if you don't want to be a good citizen ???

I am NOT an immigrant. I am a Canadian citizen who happened to immigrate here from abroad many decades ago. We have the Charter and the concept of equality before the law in Canada. A concept that is foreign to you. You are not a "Good Canadian Citizen". You're an ignorant POS who happened to be born here, and like all births, by accident as well.

Calling me names are we. Is that what you do when you don't agree with what someone has to say . For your information I am a darn good citizen of this country whether you agree or not . Your concept is out of touch with the real world . Your the one that is IGNORANT . Calling me an accident of birth . Resulting to name calling and such . Didn't your moma teach you good manners in the old country before my country let people like you come to Canada .

Looks like I really must have hit a nerve for you to call me a POS . Go back to your native country you POS for this is my country and we don't need garbage like you dictating to other people what is right or wrong . Don't agree with what I say , then say so in a civil manner .

I think we all know what hole you came from your moma's body . LOL

 

[John Henry]

Why is harper not stripping citizenship from native born Canadians? I guess he loves Canadian born terrorists

Canadian born terrorists get thrown in jail . Different situation .

 

[danmand]

Yes but when they go against the country of Canada then those rights don't apply . Why become a citizen if you don't want to be a good citizen ???

There is no sense in arguing with someone who is too stupid to understand the concept of citizenship. Too stupid to realize that he is arguing for fascism.

 

[John Henry]

I have more than two citizenships, actually. It would not make a difference to me if I had ten. We don't discriminate against Canadian citizens based on place of birth. That's unacceptable, illegal and just plain wrong and can only appeal to the Neanderthals among us.

Make up your mind what country you want to be a citizen of . You want the best of both worlds . Only having a Canadian passport not good enough for you ??? There you go , calling people names when they don't agree with you .

What else is new . LOL

Yes we do discriminate against Canadian Citizens based on birth place . Just ask Harper . He'll fill you in on the details . I LOVE this guy Harper . A real man's man don't you think . It's about time a political leader fought for rights of REAL CANADIANS and not those that have taken the Oath under false pretenses .

 

[John Henry]

There is no sense in arguing with someone who is too stupid to understand the concept of citizenship. Too stupid to realize that he is arguing for fascism.

I agree whole 100 % . Again this is your idea of being stupid . Doesn't make you right or me wrong . It's just a difference of opinion here and calling people names is not the way to do it .

Is that what you tell your boss or workers when they don't agree with you ??? Do you call them all stupid . Hey maybe you do .

 

[jcpro]

I live in a province with stupid people . Like all of the stupid people that voted for the Liberals this time around and gave them a majority



Yes but when they go against the country of Canada then those rights don't apply . Why become a citizen if you don't want to be a good citizen ???



Calling me names are we. Is that what you do when you don't agree with what someone has to say . For your information I am a darn good citizen of this country whether you agree or not . Your concept is out of touch with the real world . Your the one that is IGNORANT . Calling me an accident of birth . Resulting to name calling and such . Didn't your moma teach you good manners in the old country before my country let people like you come to Canada .

Looks like I really must have hit a nerve for you to call me a POS . Go back to your native country you POS for this is my country and we don't need garbage like you dictating to other people what is right or wrong . Don't agree with what I say , then say so in a civil manner .

I think we all know what hole you came from your moma's body . LOL

I only talk civilly to individuals who still have a few neurons firing in their brains. I have zero respect for individuals who disregard the most basic and the most important concept in our Canadian law. You are an idiot not worth my time, sir.