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yung_dood

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Let's say, you're drinking with a girl and you end up having sex with her. If she turns around and says you raped her even though you both knew what you were doing while being drunk (meaning both parties willingly partook) is there still a good chance of being charged with rape?
I was told 7 years ago that the law does not favor men in this case.
 
Miss Jessica Lee said:
We've known for a long time that "no" doesn't mean "yes".

Silence also doesn't mean "yes".

I'd go with anything less than enthusiastic consent means "no".

Intoxication is never equal to consent.

Enthusiastic consent is super sexy.
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I'd say you'd be within your rights, if she had an orgasim during the drunken encounter !!! If she 's still mad at you after that, well your fuked !!!
 
Miss Jessica Lee said:
We've known for a long time that "no" doesn't mean "yes".

Silence also doesn't mean "yes".

I'd go with anything less than enthusiastic consent means "no".

Intoxication is never equal to consent.

Enthusiastic consent is super sexy.
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My question is what if the girl lies though? Who will get the benefit of the doubt? I'm not talking about forcing someone to have sex with you. I'm talking about the few vindictive females out there that are looking to cash in or get some attention.
 
yung_dood said:
My question is what if the girl lies though? Who will get the benefit of the doubt? I'm not talking about forcing someone to have sex with you. I'm talking about the few vindictive females out there that are looking to cash in or get some attention.
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In these situations, it's always going to be a case of your word against hers. In the absence of any compelling physical evidence, the courts will likely side with whomever they believe provides the most credible testimony. If she's a good liar, you could be fucked. Probably best to lead with your big head instead of your little head if this is real concern for you.
 
Miss Jessica Lee said:
I'm suggesting that it should. Especially in the case of intoxication. Silence isn't consent. I'd be asking a clear question... I actually did it just last night. I asked him... "do you want to fuck me?"
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Well....
DID HE????
Geez..dont leave us hanging!!!!
 
yung_dood said:
Sometimes sex doesn't start with a Yes or No question. If you start making out with someone it can just move along from there.
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If your a mature Adult male, I would think you should know, what's appropriate in the given circumstances. This is not rocket science!!!
 
yung_dood said:
My question is what if the girl lies though? Who will get the benefit of the doubt? I'm not talking about forcing someone to have sex with you. I'm talking about the few vindictive females out there that are looking to cash in or get some attention.
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Was she visibly intoxicated when you left where ever you left and others last saw her? If so it is going to go badly for you as to establishing her ability to consent and even turning this into a he said, she said.
 
I was faced with this situation with an SP I had met a year and a half or so ago. I had been communicating with her about setting up a session a few weeks down the road, and during this communication, we decided to meet at a bar one night (a bar she likes to regularly go to). She had been out with friends earlier and when she showed up to meet me, she was already feeling no pain. We hung out for a while and she had a several more when she suggests we go back to her place. My inclination was a working girl isn't trying to pick me up, especially when a couple weeks later, I was going to be paying her anyway. So I replied "Sure, I can give you a ride home". So we pull up in front of her building and I thank her for a great evening. She looks at me like I'm an idiot (which to clarify, I have never denied that I was lol), and asks if I'm going to park and come inside. Well, okay if you insist. In we go, and as soon as we walk inside, she plants a big deep passionate kiss on me, then goes and grabs a bottle of wine. We plop down on the couch, we make out a bit, and she drinks a couple glasses of wine. (I don't drink, btw so I'm stone cold sober).

Finally she suggests we go to bed. I was still pretty new to the hobby at this point, maybe 5 or 6 months and 5 or 6 ladies into it, and honestly, I still wasn't sure there wasn't going to be anything said about money at some point in this lol. But aside from that, she was quite drunk, and I wasn't, and I'm not a kid, and this was a girl who I had only met briefly a couple months earlier at an industry party. No doubt, I wanted to go have sex with her right then, but I also knew right from wrong, and she wasn't in a condition to consent. And the thought of her crying rape later did cross my mind. Anyway, I somehow managed to avoid the going to bed suggestion, we hung out a bit and I could tell she was ready to go to sleep. I wished her a good night and left, still slightly kicking myself lol. The next day I texted her and thanked her for a great evening and that I looked forward to our session a couple weeks later. She replied by apologizing for getting drunk, and thanked me for not taking advantage.
 
DanJ said:
I was faced with this situation with an SP I had met a year and a half or so ago. I had been communicating with her about setting up a session a few weeks down the road, and during this communication, we decided to meet at a bar one night (a bar she likes to regularly go to). She had been out with friends earlier and when she showed up to meet me, she was already feeling no pain. We hung out for a while and she had a several more when she suggests we go back to her place. My inclination was a working girl isn't trying to pick me up, especially when a couple weeks later, I was going to be paying her anyway. So I replied "Sure, I can give you a ride home". So we pull up in front of her building and I thank her for a great evening. She looks at me like I'm an idiot (which to clarify, I have never denied that I was lol), and asks if I'm going to park and come inside. Well, okay if you insist. In we go, and as soon as we walk inside, she plants a big deep passionate kiss on me, then goes and grabs a bottle of wine. We plop down on the couch, we make out a bit, and she drinks a couple glasses of wine. (I don't drink, btw so I'm stone cold sober).

Finally she suggests we go to bed. I was still pretty new to the hobby at this point, maybe 5 or 6 months and 5 or 6 ladies into it, and honestly, I still wasn't sure there wasn't going to be anything said about money at some point in this lol. But aside from that, she was quite drunk, and I wasn't, and I'm not a kid, and this was a girl who I had only met briefly a couple months earlier at an industry party. No doubt, I wanted to go have sex with her right then, but I also knew right from wrong, and she wasn't in a condition to consent. And the thought of her crying rape later did cross my mind. Anyway, I somehow managed to avoid the going to bed suggestion, we hung out a bit and I could tell she was ready to go to sleep. I wished her a good night and left, still slightly kicking myself lol. The next day I texted her and thanked her for a great evening and that I looked forward to our session a couple weeks later. She replied by apologizing for getting drunk, and thanked me for not taking advantage.
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You are a gentleman indeed. Not many men would have responded this way. Good for you.
 
Aardvark154 said:
Was she visibly intoxicated when you left where ever you left and others last saw her? If so it is going to go badly for you as to establishing her ability to consent and even turning this into a he said, she said.
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Many years ago, I was at a party and there was a lot of drinking going on........moving ahead, we are both intoxicated and are making out in a bedroom and we begin to get undressed. I am lying there and she starts to give he a BJ, and saying the words "I love your cock". We then have sex. Why am I telling you this? Well, I heard over the next few days that she felt that she was taken advantage of and it scared the shit out of me. I did not force her to do anything and did not make her say that she loved my cock. But this would have been a he said she said scenario......Nothing ever came of it but who knows what could have happened. (oh, did I mention that she was cheating on her boyfriend?)
 
Miss Jessica Lee said:
...he replied ... "I so want to fuck you... look at that pussy .."

..."so then fuck me" I whispered....

damn. There's nothing finer than getting an outcall from a regular favourite when you're sitting at home all horny.
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Oh to be so lucky .......Are you horny NOW? LOL
 
justawildchild said:
Many years ago, I was at a party and there was a lot of drinking going on........moving ahead, we are both intoxicated and are making out in a bedroom and we begin to get undressed. I am lying there and she starts to give he a BJ, and saying the words "I love your cock". We then have sex. Why am I telling you this? Well, I heard over the next few days that she felt that she was taken advantage of and it scared the shit out of me. I did not force her to do anything and did not make her say that she loved my cock. But this would have been a he said she said scenario......Nothing ever came of it but who knows what could have happened. (oh, did I mention that she was cheating on her boyfriend?)
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Hypothetically. Given your justifiable concern that she might have made a complaint to cover her own ass, so to speak, I wonder what would have happened if you pre-emptively laid a charge against her for forcing herself on you? Or are men always "guilty" in these circumstances?
 
Celticman said:
Hypothetically. Given your justifiable concern that she might have made a complaint to cover her own ass, so to speak, I wonder what would have happened if you pre-emptively laid a charge against her for forcing herself on you? Or are men always "guilty" in these circumstances?
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:confused:
 
justawildchild said:
Many years ago, I was at a party and there was a lot of drinking going on........moving ahead, we are both intoxicated and are making out in a bedroom and we begin to get undressed. I am lying there and she starts to give he a BJ, and saying the words "I love your cock". We then have sex. Why am I telling you this? Well, I heard over the next few days that she felt that she was taken advantage of and it scared the shit out of me. I did not force her to do anything and did not make her say that she loved my cock. But this would have been a he said she said scenario......Nothing ever came of it but who knows what could have happened. (oh, did I mention that she was cheating on her boyfriend?)
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Hey JAWC had a very similar situation almost twenty years ago,scared the shit out of me big time.Happened to a teammate of mine about a year later & ruined a scholarship to a major US school.Even if she begs you,your better off going home with a hardon.I've broken my own rule a few times(i'm a weak man if she's really hot) & usually slap myself in the morning for it.:confused:
 
yung_dood said:
Let's say, you're drinking with a girl and you end up having sex with her. If she turns around and says you raped her even though you both knew what you were doing while being drunk (meaning both parties willingly partook) is there still a good chance of being charged with rape?
I was told 7 years ago that the law does not favor men in this case.
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Will you be charged? More than likely. Police, in their charging, do not favour men.

Will you be convicted and/or what kind of sentence? A good lawyer can both tell you and likely lessen the severity of the outcome for you.
 
justawildchild said:
Many years ago, I was at a party and there was a lot of drinking going on........moving ahead, we are both intoxicated and are making out in a bedroom and we begin to get undressed. I am lying there and she starts to give he a BJ, and saying the words "I love your cock". We then have sex. Why am I telling you this? Well, I heard over the next few days that she felt that she was taken advantage of and it scared the shit out of me. I did not force her to do anything and did not make her say that she loved my cock. But this would have been a he said she said scenario......Nothing ever came of it but who knows what could have happened. (oh, did I mention that she was cheating on her boyfriend?)
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Typical of women these days. They do not want to take personal responsibility for their actions. It's always somebody else's fault.

Just because she got drunk and had sex and regretted it later does not mean that she was taken advantage of or there was no consent. A grown woman got drunk of her own accord and had sex. She has to take responsibility for her actions. What if she had gotten into a car and killed somebody in that drunken state? Would she not have been charged and been held accountable? So why not in this situation? Women crying rape is getting fucking ridiculous.
 
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