Drinking and Driving

Mr. Lucky said:
DUI can lead you to hard time in Jail or your funeral.
I have no sympathy for a drunk driver that ends up in the hospital or the morgue... That is what is commonly referred to as "natural selection". Dumb fuck!

I have a REAL problem when a drunk driver causes OTHERS to end up in the hospital or the morgue!:mad:
 

doggee_01

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Report it to the police.

I had someone who was once in my life who would drink and drive, making excuses that they metablized alcohol very quickly. I gave them one warning and said I would report it to the police should they ever do it again.

About a month later they were liquored up, when they went to their car I called the police. RCMP picked them up and they were arrested for DUI.

They can't drink and drive anymore, they don't have a car or license.
although i agree completly unfortunatly not having a car or a licence or insurance still will not stop some dipshits from driving drunk!
 
snowleopard said:


oh, and by the way ... SLOW DOWN!
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Hahaha... I missed the first post of that since the "page" turned... I like it!

Slow down? WTF? I'm not like 50K over or anything... Just go the same speed as everyone else- about 20K over. Now-a-days if you're now going 20K over- the police cruisers will pass you! **rolls eyes**
 

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Cycleguy007 said:
Slow down? WTF? I'm not like 50K over or anything... Just go the same speed as everyone else- about 20K over. Now-a-days if you're now going 20K over- the police cruisers will pass you!
Just ribbing you buddy ... you don't strike me as the reckless type ;)
 

buttercup

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Once people start taking responsibility for their actions- then and only then will things start to change.
That's like saying, once people learn to buy low and sell high, then and only then will they start to make money on the stock market. The question is, how do you actually bring about that happy state?

The question is: how do we change a halfwit who often drives drunk, and perhaps has convictions for it, into a person who takes responsibility for their actions?

If the only thing we can think of is increasing the penalties, we're going to be living (and dying) with the problem for a long time.

Not that I have the answers. But at least let's focus on the real actual problem.
 

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Hangman said:
Make it illegal. Wait, they already did that. You have to change a behaviour, a mindset. Ignition interlocks won't do it; they'll just get a buddy to start the car for them.
Why wouldn't buddy just drive it for them? The problem with drinking and driving is that people exercise bad judgement when they are drunk--those drunk drivers when sober would probably agree that driving drunk is stupid. Persumably since buddy is sober buddy would make a reasonable call.
 

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Extract from Victoria Australia which has a rigourour breath testing program in place for years...

from my driving experience there you get tested frequently. It would be the equivalent to having breath testing set up on the truck weigh stations on QEW and testing every second car for a few hours 2 or 3 times per month. In toronto, there would be a station setup every day somewhere int he city doing this type of testing.

The full article is here: http://www.driveandstayalive.com/articles%20and%20topics/drunk%20driving/artcl--drunk-driving-0010--random_breath_testing.htm
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RANDOM BREATH TESTING
Objectives

In response to the magnitude of the alcohol affected driving problem in Victoria in 1977, the Government of the day introduced random interception and testing of drivers for the presence of alcohol without the intercepting police being required to have any previous knowledge of any alcohol affect on that driver. This was the birth of Random Breath Testing as we now know it. The original objective of this legislation was to identify and prosecute all drivers found to have a B.A.C. over .05% and remove them from our roadways.

Immediately following the implementation of Random Breath Testing, an immediate and significant reduction in driver/rider death over .05% was measured which continued until the 1980's when that reduction levelled out.

An investigation in 1987 throughout Australia on R.B.T. by Prof Ross Homel and others found that the apparent effectiveness of R.B.T. was due to its preventative capacities rather than the detection of offenders for which it was originally designed (Homel, Caseldine and Kearns, 1988). It is now accepted in Victoria that the true objective of R.B.T. is "to create a perception amongst the driving public that if they drink then drive, their apprehension is inevitable". Whether that threat is real or otherwise is not the point, the key is whether the public believes it to be.

Homel found that in order to conduct an effective R.B.T. campaign it was necessary that the enforcement campaign be:-

* highly visible,
* conducted as often as possible,
* rigorously enforced so as to ensure credibility,
* Well publicised.

All factors were vital in order to maximise effectiveness and a reduction in any factor would reduce that overall effectiveness (Homel, Caseldine and Kearns et al, 1988).
 

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Hangman said:
Make it illegal. Wait, they already did that. You have to change a behaviour, a mindset. Ignition interlocks won't do it; they'll just get a buddy to start the car for them.
The buddy can't just start the car, because in the middle of the trip and randomly at other points the driver will have to provide a sample or else the car will shut down.
 

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If convicted (for a first offense)...

Car permanently impounded
12 months in jail
$25,000 fine
3 years community service
Thats way too harsh if the drunk driver has not caused a crash or bodily harm onto others. Ontario laws are strict already IMO.

I don't think harsh penalties are the answer. When the person decides to get behind the wheel under the influence he/she does not think about what the consequences or penalties will be. They usually believe they are not under the influence and can therefore drive safely.
 
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