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Does anyone understand calorie deficit?

barnacler

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Forget about calories. Think only nutrition. 100 calories of junk and 1000 calories of nutrient rich food are NOT the same.
 
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barnacler

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That is exactly how it reads. Hormonally is the only way weight works. It dictates everything from childhood and beyond. That is what you said. “And it is virtually impossible to "out-willpower" your hormones. “. Your words exactly.

But whatever - I'm not getting into a back and forth with you. Especially when you go back and a few more paragraphs to your original post trying to make it appear different then what it was. I will not be taking your advice and I'm fine with that. Have a good night.
You are now glossing over your clear error in saying that because I have ruled out two popular methods of weight loss, that I have said that nothing works, I said nothing of the kind.
 

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I haven't read every single response and if I'm repeating, then I apologize.

Think of your intake in these terms: if it walks, swims, flies or grows, then you can eat it. Anything man made - avoid.

Not all calories are the same. Stick to organic foods. You don't have to count calories. Stop consuming processed sugar or wheat products, and you will have a chance to change.
 

barnacler

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Jenisis: I also have NOT made my original post appear different than it was. Please show me where I said in my original post that nothing works?

You seem to have no problem with engaging in a lot of back and forths until you can't back up your statements/logic.

It is the linguistic equivalent of stomping away when an argument goes against you.
 

barnacler

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I haven't read every single response and if I'm repeating, then I apologize.

Think of your intake in these terms: if it walks, swims, flies or grows, then you can eat it. Anything man made - avoid.

Not all calories are the same. Stick to organic foods. You don't have to count calories. Stop consuming processed sugar or wheat products, and you may have a chance.
Yes, yes yes, I believe you are on the right path.
 

barnacler

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That is exactly how it reads. Hormonally is the only way weight works. It dictates everything from childhood and beyond. That is what you said. “And it is virtually impossible to "out-willpower" your hormones. “. Your words exactly.

But whatever - I'm not getting into a back and forth with you. Especially when you go back and a few more paragraphs to your original post trying to make it appear different then what it was. I will not be taking your advice and I'm fine with that. Have a good night. You can have the last word if you need it, my will power will simply ignore you going forward.
CORRECT regarding hormones. You can't out willpower them. That is EXACTLY what I said, and your quotation was EXACTLY correct.

But, AGAIN, you make the exact same mistake as you made previously. Did I say that willpower is the ONLY method of controlling/changing hormones?

Did I say that, yes or no?
 

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I haven't read every single response and if I'm repeating, then I apologize.

Think of your intake in these terms: if it walks, swims, flies or grows, then you can eat it. Anything man made - avoid.

Not all calories are the same. Stick to organic foods. You don't have to count calories. Stop consuming processed sugar or wheat products, and you will have a chance to change.
I already don't eat wheat. No bread, pasta, rice. I don’t eat sugars for the most part. I don’t use white sugar in anything like my coffee for example and if I do eat something processed like jello for example, it is sugar free.

While I agree that staying away from processed foods is best, I’m not convinced that calories in vrs calories out does not play a factor. It just logically doesn't make sense.

You can eat all organic food and if you eat too much of it compared to what you naturally burn, you will gain weight. There is no getting around that.

Thank you for your input though. Appreciate it.
 
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IamGroot

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I already don't eat wheat. No bread, pasta, rice. I don’t eat sugars for the most part. I don’t use white sugar in anything like my coffee for example and if I do eat something processed like jello for example, it is sugar free.

While I agree that staying away from processed foods is best, I’m not convinced that calories in vrs calories out does not play a factor. It just logically doesn't make sense.

You can eat all organic food and if you eat too much of it compared to what you naturally burn, you will gain weight. There is no getting around that.

Thank you for your input though. Appreciate it.
I stick to the same diet and can tell you that it works for me. When I get hungry, I eat meat, vegetables or nuts. No one ever got fat off eating steak and carrots. Keep in mind, it takes weeks/months before a body changes. Stick to it and you'll see change eventually.
 

boobtoucher

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Forget about calories. Think only nutrition. 100 calories of junk and 1000 calories of nutrient rich food are NOT the same.
Man, y'all need to take a thermodynamics class.


1. The only way to lose weight is through a calorie deficit. That deficit can come through food or through exercise, however food is more calorie rich than you think, and exercise doesn't burn as many calories as you think.

2. It is MORE DIFFICULT to be in calorie deficit if you eat 1000 calories of junk vs 1000 calories of vegetables. You will feel hungrier and shittier, but if you maintain the same calorie deficit, you will still lose weight at exactly the same rate.

3. "Starvation mode" is kinda bullshit. Yes, over time a low calorie diet will decrease your metabolic rate, but that's WAY down the line. 1.5 million Cambodians did not go into Starvation Mode when the Khmer Rouge fed them 600 calories a day. They got LA skinny until they died.
 
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