Does anyone understand calorie deficit?

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The channel diary of a CEO has many "experts" on health and other things. Taken with a some doubt.

I liked his comment.. Dr. Pradip Jamnadas - short clip


Here is the long version


He was asked by the host which diet works best in the first 20 mins of interview. His response "what result are you looking for?"

I am a believer in Karma and the shape of our body also determines our figure.
All the best with your goal.
 
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Too long to post the whole article, but I've seen it before that calorie counting is no good.

Calorie counting and low-calorie diets for weight loss: An update

Losing weight is tough. And keeping it off in the long run is even tougher.

Millions of people try some kind of weight loss program every year. But most who are successful will regain the weight over the following years.

In fact, people who go through cycles of weight loss and regain, a process sometimes called yo-yo dieting, are likely to weigh more than people who don’t have restrictive eating patterns. This is especially true for women.

A review and meta-analysis examining 80 weight loss clinical trials provides some evidence. The authors compared different methods of dieting, including low-calorie diets.

They found that a diet focused on drastically reducing caloric intake initially produces dramatic weight loss. But people's weight steadily rises back.

And at the 3-year mark, most people — around 80% — are rapidly approaching their starting weight.

Prof. Tim Spector told us that “In real life, these figures are likely to be much worse without the backup of all the resources and psychological support of a clinical trial.”

Interestingly, the scientists also found that people who tried to lose weight using only exercise lost the least from any group. They also put the weight back on the quickest.

But today, we’re focusing on calorie counting and why it doesn’t work.


You're missing the point of the article.


“They found that a diet focused on drastically reducing caloric intake…”


No one here is advocating a 1,000-calorie crash diet. The goal is a moderate deficit of about 300 to 500 calories below maintenance, which is the only sustainable and effective way to lean out.

If your goal is to gain or maintain muscle while doing it, you’ve got to include resistance training. Then layer in cardio or regular walking to boost energy expenditure and overall conditioning.

If you’re starting from scratch, begin with the calorie deficit first. When your metabolism starts to adapt and weight loss slows, that’s when you add in cardio and that combo is where the real fat loss happens.

 
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To say that 'calorie counting is no good' is a bit extreme. You need to have some awareness of what you're consuming daily, and calories is an easy way to do it, along with tracking your protein/carb/fat intake. Obviously there are going to be adjustments to your food consumption/exercise routine over time based on the results.
 

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If you burn 2,500 calories a day and consume 1,500, the IMPLIES that you WILL lose 2 pounds a week.

I see.

So that is 100 lbs a year. In a year and a half a 150 pound person will weigh approximately ZERO.

No, no they won't. And they won't starve to death either, because at 1,500 calories you can get all the nutrition you need. So the body will adjust in all kinds of ways to reduce expenditure. It does that as a survival mechanism. YOU WILL NOT STAY IN CALORIC DEFICIT.
1500 is a fun number to chose, because in general, if you are at 1500 or fewer calories a day for long enough, you will die, from starvation, or from sickness due to your body shutting down from lack of calories.

 

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To say that 'calorie counting is no good' is a bit extreme. You need to have some awareness of what you're consuming daily, and calories is an easy way to do it, along with tracking your protein/carb/fat intake. Obviously there are going to be adjustments to your food consumption/exercise routine over time based on the results.
I used to calorie count all the time when I was taking the gym seriously but now I just practice intuitive eating with healthy high protein meals 😊
 

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I used to calorie count all the time when I was taking the gym seriously but now I just practice intuitive eating with healthy high protein meals 😊
Exactly. And you learn to avoid low protein options.
 
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Exactly. And you learn to avoid low protein options.
Yup but not to say calorie counting is bad whenever I wanna lose extra weight I pause my intuitive eating diet and start counting calories and macros 😊

I do wanna say when you are using the intuitive diet you MUST choose healthy calorie dense foods 😊
 

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Yup but not to say calorie counting is bad whenever I wanna lose extra weight I pause my intuitive eating diet and start counting calories and macros 😊

I do wanna say when you are using the intuitive diet you MUST choose healthy calorie dense foods 😊
Using your intuitive eating habits, if you were downtown and on the go - which healthy places do you normally eat at? Like harvest green or green box express perhaps?
 

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Using your intuitive eating habits, if you were downtown and on the go - which healthy places do you normally eat at? Like harvest green or green box express perhaps?
Here’s are my go-to fast food picks:

Chic Fil A - Grilled nuggets
Starbucks - Roasted red pepper egg bites
Chipotle - Salad with steak and Barbacoa
Osmows - Salad on the rocks with LIGHT sauce
Swiss Chalet - quarter chicken w Salad (my actual go to when I have to uber eats something downtown lol)

I’ll update more when it comes to mind 😊

when I have time and feel fancy is when I get harvest green 😊
 

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Here’s are my go-to fast food picks:

Chic Fil A - Grilled nuggets
Starbucks - Roasted red pepper egg bites
Chipotle - Salad with steak and Barbacoa
Osmows - Salad on the rocks with LIGHT sauce
Swiss Chalet - quarter chicken w Salad (my actual go to when I have to uber eats something downtown lol)

I’ll update more when it comes to mind 😊

when I have time and feel fancy is when I get harvest green 😊
thx so much!
 

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I wonder how people survived and thrived before 2010 when macros became this long standing trend. Oh yeah, they ate and exercised. :eek:
'' Carbohydrate-restricted diets (CRDs) are increasingly used in managing metabolic disorders, yet evidence remains mixed regarding their effectiveness beyond glycemic control and across diverse populations. To systematically evaluate the effects of CRDs, ketogenic (KD), low-carbohydrate (LCD), and moderate-carbohydrate diets (MCD), and different macronutrient replacements (fat, protein, or both) on metabolic health-related biomarkers, including glycemic, hepatic, renal, adipokine, and lipid metabolism indices. ''

'' CRDs, particularly LCDs and MCDs with mixed macronutrient replacements, confer significant metabolic benefits independent of energy intake. These findings support CRDs as a potential nutritional strategy in metabolic disease prevention and management. Clinical supervision is recommended. ''
 
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