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Does anyone still use a 35mm film camera?

kbluejayk

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Did you know that Kodak invented the digital camera but hid it in the closet because of fears it would ruin their film business?

The first few digital cameras weren't very good. Only 1-2 megapixals and a 32 GB memory card cost $40. But, the current digitals are really good and a 2GB memory card can be had for $8.
Would that be for an XD card Rock? That's a lot less than I've paid in the past! Where's the best place to get it?
As for film cameras, I still have my Olympus OM1 which I use on special ocasions like weddings, vacation etc. However, the conveniences of Digital are such that I use my Digital camera 75% of the time...
Incidently, I also have a Hi-8 Sony 101 that cost me 2 grand downtown 25 years or so ago...supposedly state of the art at that time, but now it's a $50 museum piece!! If only I'd known ...
 

blackrock13

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I go back to my original point - if you are shooting film you simply are not a purist. Unless you have the glass plates, you are cheating.
Sorry don't buy this at all.

In photographic circles if you use film you're considered a traditionalist, but that as far as it goes. The only time I've ever heard purist used was in referring to a photographer you set his camera up waits for the right moment takes the shot and doesn't tweak it in any way, except cropping it and that's a stretch. Those people are very rare. I was asked on a trip with 6 others of this ilk because I had been in that part of the country in the previous year and was their guide. Plus I don't take a bad snapshot myself. They were purist. I've never heard your definition ever.
 

wonderboy007

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On a somewhat related subject, does anybody know if they are still using tape when they shoot a big budget $100 million movie?
Lol, Panavision 35mm Millenium XL2 camera. A PANAVISION PRIME Lens is insured for $20,000.

http://fluidmotionfilmcom.melbourneitwebsites.com/images/ak_millenium.jpg

or

http://www.hff-muenchen.de/studium/2/6/filmkameras/arricam_lt.jpg

and tis one use to be popular...

http://www.filmbay.com/media/commun...7-f4d2-4d2e-a96e-41798d330d6f-arri767hgfj.jpg
 

Rockslinger

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Would that be for an XD card Rock? That's a lot less than I've paid in the past! Where's the best place to get it?
Sorry, not XD. I was speaking of SD. Lexar 2GB SD cards selling 3 for $24 at Wal-Mart. I think XD and Memory Sticks are overpriced.
 

Dewalt

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Blackrock: learn a little history. Ansel Adams did it this way and got images that no one had ever captured before. Everything after the original process is cheating, so why is digital considered cheating?
 

blackrock13

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I know all about Ansel Adams and his technique but to call all others cheating is like saying Picasso cheated, because he did paint like Rueben.

I've been with guys who've used 8x10 box/bellows camera in the wilderness and know the technique well. It's the best method for large moral and panoramas, but it not cheating except in your head.
 

Dewalt

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Picasso DID cheat - he stole all his best ideas from better but lesser known artists. He was even quoted as saying "good artists create - great artists steal".

Man, open book!
 

blackrock13

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Picasso DID cheat - he stole all his best ideas from better but lesser known artists. He was even quoted as saying "good artists create - great artists steal".

Man, open book!
I'm going to guess he had a sense of humour and had his tongue planted firmly in his cheek and a glass of vino in his hand when he said it.

Picasso hardly meant that great artists steal popular designs whose original source is known to everyone. What Picasso did mean was that great artists rummage through the great junk heap of lost, bypassed, and forgotten ideas to find the rare jewels, and then incorporate such languishing gems into their own personal artistic legacy.

It could also be said that Picasso may have taken that comment from another master of his own time;

T. S. Eliott

One of the surest tests [of the superiority or inferiority of a poet] is the way in which a poet borrows. Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different. The good poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique, utterly different from that which it is torn; the bad poet throws it into something which has no cohesion.

The key to the legitimate reuse of creative works is not in what you take or how much, but in the end result. The end justifies the means, in this case. The law calls this end result a ‘transformative work.

Context my good man context.

It very much along the same line of thought that in comedy/humour there are only three unique punch lines/themes. All others are just variations of the theme.
 

Rockslinger

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I find film such a hassle. You can only shoot 24 pics to a roll. Take it in to Wal-Mart to have it developed. Some 19 year old kid looks at the pics of your GF in a bikini. Then you find out half the pics are out of focus.
 

wonderboy007

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I find film such a hassle. You can only shoot 24 pics to a roll. Take it in to Wal-Mart to have it developed. Some 19 year old kid looks at the pics of your GF in a bikini. Then you find out half the pics are out of focus.
Professional use......
 

blackrock13

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I find film such a hassle. You can only shoot 24 pics to a roll. Take it in to Wal-Mart to have it developed. Some 19 year old kid looks at the pics of your GF in a bikini. Then you find out half the pics are out of focus.
It's a combination of skill and luck. Your results depend on the two working together to give a good result. The digital formate does give more people more leeway to record/create a good image, but a good photographer does it more often and faster. The one problem right now with digital is that no one know what technology will bring into use for imagery and how does one keep up. How many of you kept your beta decks or your 8mm projectors to transfer your or your parents photos and movies to todays formats. How long will the DVDs hold onto their records. I hear such wide ranging numbers it's clear no one really knows for sure.
 

Rockslinger

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The one problem right now with digital is that no one know what technology will bring into use for imagery and how does one keep up.
But, it will still be digital, yes? I went through a bad experience with my VHS tapes where after 10-15 years they all turned to mush.
 

Rockslinger

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Hey guys, I'm watching CSI NYC and I'm pretty sure they are using a digital (Nikon model) to take their pics.
 

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Hey guys, I'm watching CSI NYC and I'm pretty sure they are using a digital (Nikon model) to take their pics.
Nikon pays a lot to have them use Nikon cameras in the show. With everyone (including me) fast forwarding through commercials to avoid them, product placement is the new commercial...pay to put the products in the show instead lol. They avoid showing which Nikon model it is so that re-runs won't be dated as digital models have limited life spans. In teh early CSI episodes I believe they used film Nikons, now they use digital.
 

blackrock13

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Nikon pays a lot to have them use Nikon cameras in the show. With everyone (including me) fast forwarding through commercials to avoid them, product placement is the new commercial...pay to put the products in the show instead lol. They avoid showing which Nikon model it is so that re-runs won't be dated as digital models have limited life spans. In teh early CSI episodes I believe they used film Nikons, now they use digital.

Psssst, watch this.

Did you see the Macs as well? Great computers!
 

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Nikon pays a lot to have them use Nikon cameras in the show. With everyone (including me) fast forwarding through commercials to avoid them, product placement is the new commercial...pay to put the products in the show instead lol. They avoid showing which Nikon model it is so that re-runs won't be dated as digital models have limited life spans. In teh early CSI episodes I believe they used film Nikons, now they use digital.
Coorect me if I am wrong, but real police would use film cameras over digital for preservation of evidence and to ensure that the images have not ben altered by any one in any way. It is very difficult to f&^k with a negative or slide, whereas it is a realtively easy matter incomparison to alter a digital image.
 

blackrock13

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Coorect me if I am wrong, but real police would use film cameras over digital for preservation of evidence and to ensure that the images have not ben altered by any one in any way. It is very difficult to f&^k with a negative or slide, whereas it is a realtively easy matter incomparison to alter a digital image.
There's generally a digital record of any changes made to a digital image and if there is one the person who sign for it through the chain of evidence record had better have a damn good explanation. No matter what the forma,t if the benefit outweigh the cost, there is always a way to fudge an image. That's why control of the evidence is so important.
 

Rockslinger

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This is interesting. I was watching CBC News. Avateur was digitally created on computers and then transferred to film but the transfer resulted in some distortion until this guy (who won an academy award) invented this "widget" to make the transfer seamless.:cool:
 
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