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blackrock13

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I have no problem with the actual words, just their irrelevance to my casual mocking you for your lame
'looking in the wrong window...trying too hard" retort.

Just like this one, where we are communicating in "The Queen's English" yet the best insult you have is the equivilant of saying I have a poopy face...nah nah nah na!
I don't think I've ever said that in my life, but if that more you style, knock yourself out. When your mocking observations have glaring errors they kind of scream irrelevance. I just brought you up top date. Woodie tried the same flame sand did his usual face plant.
 

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Interesting topic, I am very similar to the OP, minus the threesome with my wife. Really wish she would bring that up. Also I would love to find out she has a lover. If would make be feel better about visiting MP, SPs. ( I have given up on SPs for now.) I tell my self massages aren't cheating, but they are. I think it's more to do with variety than anything else. I don't think I have every visited a MP or SP that looks even close to my wife.
My exwife was a Bait and Switch. And she upsold me on services at every opportunity. I felt little guilt about taking up the hobby. :wink:
 

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So I'm a happily married guy. Great girl, pretty, decent sex life (perhaps a little too "normal"). I love spending time with her. I have never had an affair, and have no interest in having one.

In my work life, I am honest, ethical and trust-worthy. In fact, in a survey my employer did recently, my clients all felt that they trusted me. My word is my bond. I'm kinda old-school that way. I do deals worth hundreds of thousands of dollars on a handshake. I'm a fucking Rotarian for Christ sake...

So why is that every week or two I'm off to the rub 'n tug or a SP or maybe even the VIP... I have no interest in quitting this hobby, but the only time I think about it is when I think about what it would do to the Missus if she found out. I don't think she would dump me, but she would be "crushed". I "stop" hobbying once in a while to prove I can do it, and as soon as I am satisfied that I can, I go back to it!

I don't imagine I'm alone in this...

So what's with us? Are we just wired to be horn-dogs? Are we missing something in our lives?

Do I wonder?....well,I am single,don't lie because I have reason to,and I don't cheat because I am not married or involved with someone.So,do I wonder.....FUCK NO.
 

james t kirk

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I knew I could count on you guys to make me feel better. Incidentally avxl1003, I did share a girl with the Missus a year ago in Montreal. Amazing night. She loved it too, but says she won't do it again. (Ther'e's a review on Merb if you're curious) All freeked out (in hindsight) about STDs etc... Sigh.
I find myself in the same boat now.

My current GF and I had a great sex life. I had stopped hobbying even. We went to swingers clubs, had 3somes, went to strip joints, it was great. But gradually she began pulling back - reducing the frequency with one lame excuee or another. Over the last month or so, it's become an arguement. I got the exact same speech about STDs.

It's full stop now.

I'm so disappointed.

I don't know what's going to happen frankly, but I will not be able to give up an adventurous sex life for boredom. Not at my age and not given my history since I was however old.

Sigh....

I don't want to slither around behind her back, I don't want to dump her. I just want what I had. But it's not looking good.

If given the choice between boring vanilla sex life with a great companion, or dumping her and starting anew looking for great companionship AND an interesting sex life - I will dump her. I can't stand boring sex. That's what she wants. But I can't stand it.
 

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I don't know what's going to happen frankly, but I will not be able to give up an adventurous sex life for boredom. Not at my age and not given my history since I was however old.
Honesty might help. If you care for her and want to make the relationship work, let her know that you have those feelings but let her understand that an adventurous sex life is one of the many things that brought you together and you don't want to give it up.
 

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If men had as much choice as a famous athlete, rock star, actor, a multi-millionaire/billionaire, probably only 10% would remain faithful. A man is only as faithful as his options.

On a side note, never think your SO is not cheating on you too. If it's not a physical relationship, it's more of an emotional infidelity. If you work in a co-ed environment it's rife with infidelity.
 

4pack

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So what's with us? Are we just wired to be horn-dogs? Are we missing something in our lives?
Most men are wired to be horn dogs. We are not missing anything. It's hard for any one woman to satisfy us. And unfortunately women aging I believe has a lot of us looking for younger women. After they had kids and gained weight, we want to fuck the younger ones who still have the great body.
 

james t kirk

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Honesty might help. If you care for her and want to make the relationship work, let her know that you have those feelings but let her understand that an adventurous sex life is one of the many things that brought you together and you don't want to give it up.
I have.

It would seem that it's her way or the highway. I'm pissed off right now. Majorly. I know it sounds immature, but whoever said it was logical. I was the happiest I've been in 20 years and it's all shot to hell now. I've had problems over the years with women not being able to handle my sexuality, so it's not unusual. Just I thought that this one was different. I guess it was all a giant act. I asked her about her seeming to be quite into it and enjoying it and what I got was, "what you didn't know was that every time I never felt comfortable and I had to force myself" Oh good.
 

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what I got was, "what you didn't know was that every time I never felt comfortable and I had to force myself" Oh good.
So now you know.

You shouldn't be ashamed of feeling pissed off. You fell for the girl 9in part) because she misled you about her true self. The real girl isn't who you thought she was and you miss the one you thought you were with.

I guess you now need to decide if her other qualities (assuming they are true) are worth giving up the sex life you enjoyed. Otherwise, it's time to move on.

Sorry for your loss.
 
hey OP, you can't say your are honest in anything or even old school when your main relationship is built around a lie. you are either honest or your not, there is no grey area.
Maybe this is why we cum with two heads. The brain in the big one is honest and ethical... It's the little brain in the little head that's the problem. THAT's the one that make me/us lying, cheating bastards...

Mrs. Bobbit knew that.
 

james t kirk

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So now you know.

You shouldn't be ashamed of feeling pissed off. You fell for the girl 9in part) because she misled you about her true self. The real girl isn't who you thought she was and you miss the one you thought you were with.

I guess you now need to decide if her other qualities (assuming they are true) are worth giving up the sex life you enjoyed. Otherwise, it's time to move on.

Sorry for your loss.
Exactly correct.

I'm not the kind of guy who wants to get laid 3 times a day, every day. I love vanilla sex. But I also have a kinky side that has been there since the get-go. I'm very experimental and open minded. Many women have told me that I'm the best in bed they've ever had, highly sexual. With the woman in question, she loved my sexuality. Her words were, "I've done things with you I never would have dreamed about" I just can't be vanilla all the time, every day. It gets boring. My fantasies don't revolve around long walks on the beach and "making love" in the dunes. They just don't. For 3 years she partiicipated in my kinky side. Now she wants out. I should have known it. I could see it coming over the last 6 months but I kept buying her bullshit excuses (migranes, periods, work, blah blah blah). Finally she told me the truth - that she wants me to be something I'm not. She can handle the tame kink (like me telling her dirty stories while I play with her pussy - she even begs for it. I am quite good at telling very nasty sexual stories while I stroke her and make her cum. But I do it for her. There's nothing for me on my end. She loves that. But I need the reality and she does not want the reality anymore.

I'm so depressed at being in this position.

The other qualities are there - she's attractive (although a little chubby, but I can get my head around that as I'm not perfect physical specimen either), good in bed (vanilla only it would seem), kind and decent, helps me out around home, not self centred, no abuse problems, has a good job. From my end, I've actually been faithful to her. Haven't fucked any other women behind her back, have been good to her, paid the shot, blah blah blah.

Having had what I thought was a perfect sexual relationship, I'm not into giving it up. Not only that, but I don't want to have to slither around behind a woman's back in order to get my jollies.

You're absolutely correct when you said she lied to me. She protrayed herself as being something she's not. Maybe she thought that I could be tamed, or it was a passing whim on my part or she thought that she could be something she's really not. I don't know.
 

Roger Melon

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Exactly correct.

You're absolutely correct when you said she lied to me. She protrayed herself as being something she's not. Maybe she thought that I could be tamed, or it was a passing whim on my part or she thought that she could be something she's really not. I don't know.


Consider yourself extremely lucky that you don't have two kids, two cars, a house and half your life savings involved here. Lots of us find out that all that delicious kinky sex was just a temporary marketing gimmick never-to-be-repeated after we're in that position. My advice is to thank your lucky stars, cut your losses and move on.

If for whatever reason you want to stay in this relationship then hobby your brains out and don't feel guilty for even a second about it.
 

Brill

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Lots of us find out that all that delicious kinky sex was just a temporary marketing gimmick never-to-be-repeated after we're in that position.
I don't get the impression she tricked him, perhaps she really was open to try new things. We all change, don't get angry with her for being true to herself unless she was actually doing this with the hopes of taming him.
But Kirk is right about this being the end if neither is willing to settle the issue.
 

Roger Melon

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I have.

...I guess it was all a giant act. I asked her about her seeming to be quite into it and enjoying it and what I got was, "what you didn't know was that every time I never felt comfortable and I had to force myself" Oh good.
How can you read those words and not get the impression that Kirk was tricked, if not outright scammed?
 
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