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6 years ago I had some success. I am a fugly chud, fat, employ/ed/able but with some assets.
Granted most of those who respond were born in China but living here including the 2 I met.
I got about 20 messages but they were by those who looked 20 years older than my actual age [I look younger], about 10 BMI fatter or in some cases looked like dudes and also couldn't put together a sentence or use things like punctuation or capital letters. [My standards are higher if I am sending a message than posting on a forum]
I find the numbers on POF have gone down a lot. I don't try tinder because at least with POF if you find someone promising you can send a message and work the charm. In Tinder if they don't swipe on you based strictly on looks you are fucked and I know my strengths and weaknesses.

I find I become a victim of POF mentality. After a while I strictly judging on looks…. Looking for people out of my league… and ghosting perfectly decent people myself.

How I get treated it much worse then that.

I make a decent living, but it’s not a desirable job. The other people in my job make the industry look bad. Usually, most women ask what I do within a few minutes of chatting, then ghost me if I answer.
 

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I find I become a victim of POF mentality. After a while I strictly judging on looks…. Looking for people out of my league… and ghosting perfectly decent people myself.

How I get treated it much worse then that.

I make a decent living, but it’s not a desirable job. The other people in my job make the industry look bad. Usually, most women ask what I do within a few minutes of chatting, then ghost me if I answer.
I basically stopped messaging non whites as my response from white chicks is about 1% and that 1 ghosted me because they confused my lack of game with being a player, that and I get punished because of her history of abuse.
I have somewhat low standards when it comes to looks but at the same time, I don't want to fuck my mother. I also am very disinclined to want to date single mothers either which cuts things down quite a bit. I'd guess POF has only about 1/3 of the women it used to have, it seems on the way out. Back in the day the other dating web pages were even worse. Seems everyone is going to Tinder.
 

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I find I become a victim of POF mentality. After a while I strictly judging on looks…. Looking for people out of my league… and ghosting perfectly decent people myself.

How I get treated it much worse then that.

I make a decent living, but it’s not a desirable job. The other people in my job make the industry look bad. Usually, most women ask what I do within a few minutes of chatting, then ghost me if I answer.
You didn't really have to tell them you're a paid assassin. The profession is really going to the dogs these days.
 
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You didn't really have to tell them you're a paid assassin. The profession is really going to the dogs these days.
Yeah…. But then how do you explain all the trophies in the den? And surely she’ll figure it out at the Annual Assassins Guild Awards Gala. (Only losers go without a date!)

Then once she knows…. You never here the end “lying about that”! (As if they really can’t believe it… pffft)
 
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I heard male models get paid very low. It's like minimum wage almost. Which is why I asked the question, do top notch male looks have any value based on looks alone?
Female models can make millions, whereas the male ones can be seen couch surfing.
A good point. You're right I've heard the same thing now that I think about it. Maybe the proximity to the hot girls makes up for the lack of financial rewards :)

I guess the best way to get value from a guys looks would be to put any ethics aside and go with a) Con artist / grifter or b) Televangelism. The 2 are pretty much the same thing but religion gives a bullet proof cover to those crooks. And as a bonus you can bet they're getting some high quality tail. Just have to get your head around the ethics of fleecing innocent suckers.
 
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So the conclusion of this thread appears to be, No, attractive men don't command the same value as an equally attractive female.
 

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As a chick, I concur. Looks tend to rank much lower for us than things like humour, intelligence, stability (emotional and financial), comfort level, etc.

So the conclusion of this thread appears to be, No, attractive men don't command the same value as an equally attractive female.
 

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As a chick, I concur. Looks tend to rank much lower for us than things like humour, intelligence, stability (emotional and financial), comfort level, etc.
You keep hearing that but it is bullshit. About the humor. Gilbert Gottfried did a bit on how every poll, every survey says women like a guy with a sense of humor. They are crawling over Tom Selleck to get to Buddy Hackett. ( I know. Old references) but I totally disagree. In the book "Alfie" he sagely remarked, "get em laughing and that's all you'll get"
Women tend to like serious humorless guys. Helps if they have a threatening vibe as well.
All that being said. You still see women breaking the rules by being out and about with guys you would never imagine they would be with.
 
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I met some friends in college. One of the guys was a tall pretty boy, had the Mili Vanilli look going on. He actually got compared the guy who played in Two Moon Junction. A lot.

One Sat night during the home coming g weekend we went pre-drinking at the Old Bon Villa in the falls. ($0.75 cent half pints by the tray!). Place was packed. We walked in... and every head in the place just turned and looked, and the jaw dropped on every girl in there. We found a corner to huddle up in and he was just beaming saying "sorry guys... that happens sometimes".

Now, he was dumb as fence post, and ended up driving limo after college... but he had no issue getting laid. All he had to so was walk in the room. His buddies told us stories where he would make 4 or 5 dates a night, and just drive from girls house to girls house to girls house back home.

Yes... goods looks count. Even for guys.

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I met some friends in college. One of the guys was a tall pretty boy, had the Mili Vanilli look going on. He actually got compared the guy who played in Two Moon Junction. A lot.

One Sat night during the home coming g weekend we went pre-drinking at the Old Bon Villa in the falls. ($0.75 cent half pints by the tray!). Place was packed. We walked in... and every head in the place just turned and looked, and the jaw dropped on every girl in there. We found a corner to huddle up in and he was just beaming saying "sorry guys... that happens sometimes".

Now, he was dumb as fence post, and ended up driving limo after college... but he had no issue getting laid. All he had to so was walk in the room. His buddies told us stories where he would make 4 or 5 dates a night, and just drive from girls house to girls house to girls house back home.

Yes... goods looks count. Even for guys.

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I had a greek friend similar situation, early 20's we could go to any bar & heads would turn. He was definitely better looking than me & in the 1% club for looks but he was on the shy side & didn't converse well with the ladies. I was 5 or 6 inches taller, cut, blonde, blue eyed & could charm the pants off a snake so it was a toss up who was getting more tail end of the night. I went out west in search of waves & pussy & he stayed here & went through uni for finance. Stayed in contact a bit & then lost touch over the years. Found out when he was just shy of his 29th birthday he took his life, turns out he suffered from depression. He had it all, wealthy family, good job, looks & trophy gf. So I guess no matter how good looking someone is on the outside doesn't mean everything else is rosy, similar situation with my dream gf at one point Heather Locklear. Beautiful on the outside but goes bat shit crazy once in a while!
 
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News alert: Saw an ad for male escort charging women 600/h and claiming he get clients.
Do you think this is true??? Do you know any female that would pay 600 per hour to be with a guy ?
 

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News alert: Saw an ad for male escort charging women 600/h and claiming he get clients.
Do you think this is true??? Do you know any female that would pay 600 per hour to be with a guy ?
Send the link. I’ll tell you if I would book or not
 

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Do you know any female that would pay 600 per hour to be with a guy ?
Depends on the guy. Brad Pitt could probably get much more if he went down that line.
But I am doubting it. At least very few.
 

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Depends on the guy. Brad Pitt could probably get much more if he went down that line.
But I am doubting it. At least very few.
Actually Hollywood Celebs are known to hire female escorts. It's still the other way around.
 

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Actually Hollywood Celebs are known to hire female escorts. It's still the other way around.
Doesn't mean it can't work both ways. Dudes do get work with female clients. The discussion is how viable those 600 bucks an hour rate are.
 

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I'm 60, but I look younger; I still have a full head of hair, and only my sideburns have turned white; no gray hair. I don't use online dating. I don't have a lot of money, but I also have no debts, kids, nor ex-wives.
Lucky you. A rarity, even. You should be a juicy catch.
 

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So the conclusion of this thread appears to be, No, attractive men don't command the same value as an equally attractive female.
An equally attrrctive female is not necessarily valuabe (to a guy) - not if she is a feminist, incel, dislikes sex, is single in her 40's living in her parent's basement playing video games, an anti-social shut-in etc I could go on and on.
 

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One flash of light but no smoking pistol Is 1980 Bowie talking.
Women want the whole package.
 
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