Divorce rates declining

[canada-man]

https://www.thisisinsider.com/what-is-the-divorce-rate-2017-2


It's a long-standing, depressing myth that 50% of marriages in America end in divorce. At that point, why even try, right?

Wrong. In fact, the divorce rate in the United States is going down. It hit a peak of about 41% for people who married 35 years ago and it's been falling ever since.

But there's a way to do it.
The best way to understand divorce rates, researchers say, is to calculate how many marriages have subsequently ended in divorce.

In other words, if we want to count how marriages held up in the past few decades, let's count how many of them made it to their 15th anniversary.

Measured that way, approximately 65% of marriages that began in the 1970s and 1980s reached their 15th anniversary, according to data from University of Michigan economist Justin Wolfers provided to the New York Times, making for a divorce rate of about 35% for those generations.


Based on that same data, about 70% of marriages from the 1990s reached 15 years, for a divorce rate of about 30%. And through around 2014 (which is when the dataset ended), the divorce rate for people who married in the 2000s was only at 15%.

The divorce rate, it appears, is dropping.

https://www.thisisinsider.com/what-is-the-divorce-rate-2017-2

 

[Ceiling Cat]

There are less divorce because there are less people getting married. There are fewer people marrying in their teens or early 20s. From the 70s on people have fewer kids and as a result less marriages. some people just do not get married at all.

 

[xmontrealer]

A more meaningful statistic, although impossible to determine, would be what percentage of married people would stay married, say after 20 years of marriage, if they could get divorced without the legal expense and hassles, effect on the children, asset splitting, alimony, etc., etc.

In other words what percentage of those couples would stay together because they are truly happy in their marriages?

I'm still married after over 25 years, and I'm far from happy! But it's just not worth what it would cost, in all the above listed factors, to get out. But for all intents and purposes my wife and I might as well be divorced as far as the quality of our day to day relationship.

As I always say: The less we talk, the less we fight!

 

[rhuarc29]

There are less divorce because there are less people getting married. There are fewer people marrying in their teens or early 20s. From the 70s on people have fewer kids and as a result less marriages. some people just do not get married at all.

Less people getting married doesn't affect the divorce rate percentage.

However, it could be indicative of people being more wary of getting married unless compatibility is a sure thing.

 

[Smallcock]

It could also result from greater economic hardship in our highly indebted society. All things equal, dual income is better than one making divorce a less desirable option.

 

[oil&gas]

Hobbying could be a factor in the divorce rate decline.

 

[essguy_]

I was married for just over 20 years. 15 of those were really good. The divorce sucked, but it’s like ripping off a giant bandaid. It hurts, you bleed, but it feels good once it’s done.

I believe that fear of divorce keeps many bad marriages going. There are valid arguments both ways.

 

[essguy_]

Hobbying could be a factor in the divorce rate decline.

I agree. Biologically, men are not wired to be monogamous, so hobbying is a good, victimless (assuming you’re not breaking the bank to do it) activity. For me, it wasn’t even about just the sex since my sex life with my ex was quite active - it was variety, opportunity, and the excitement of something and somebody new. I’m sure many will relate that one of the attractions of SP’s is the excitement of that first meeting - it’s almost like a gambling addiction - the unknown and putting skin in the game (literally) for a positive outcome. If they are as good or better than expected, you’ve “won”. If they aren’t, you roll the dice for the next encounter. I’ve often wondered if I’m an undiagnosed sex/gambling addict...lol!

 

[xmontrealer]

I agree. Biologically, men are not wired to be monogamous, so hobbying is a good, victimless (assuming you’re not breaking the bank to do it) activity. For me, it wasn’t even about just the sex since my sex life with my ex was quite active - it was variety, opportunity, and the excitement of something and somebody new. I’m sure many will relate that one of the attractions of SP’s is the excitement of that first meeting - it’s almost like a gambling addiction - the unknown and putting skin in the game (literally) for a positive outcome. If they are as good or better than expected, you’ve “won”. If they aren’t, you roll the dice for the next encounter. I’ve often wondered if I’m an undiagnosed sex/gambling addict...lol!

You're 100% right about the thrill of that first meeting. The anticipation waiting for her to enter the room, the not knowing if you'll be attracted to her and vice versa, seeing if there is any mental and/or physical "click", etc.

For me it takes me back to the old "blind date" days (now rare for most singles even before they meet because of all the info available on the internet). It's the same thrill, but now compressed into 45 minutes as opposed to the old three dates before physical intimacy. Totally addictive!

 

[shack]

Hobbying could be a factor in the divorce rate decline.

As if there were no pros before. The oldest profession.

 

[kkelso]

It could also result from greater economic hardship in our highly indebted society. All things equal, dual income is better than one making divorce a less desirable option.

From the feedback of my social base I'd say that this is definitely a factor.

Combine that with marrying later, so less time to rebuild after losing half your net worth, and self-selection, not a surprise that the rate is declining.

KK

 

[oil&gas]

As if there were no pros before. The oldest profession.

I had getting a massage rather than seeing a SP in my mind.
Until the late 80's and early 90's all of the MP advertisements in
GTA hardly occupied more than one column in the classifieds in the
Sun. The phenomenal growth of the MP industry is unique to Toronto though,

 

[oil&gas]

If half of the hobbying and cheating husbands got
caught the rate could easily double.

 

[huckfinn]

I agree. Biologically, men are not wired to be monogamous, so hobbying is a good, victimless (assuming you’re not breaking the bank to do it) activity. For me, it wasn’t even about just the sex since my sex life with my ex was quite active - it was variety, opportunity, and the excitement of something and somebody new. I’m sure many will relate that one of the attractions of SP’s is the excitement of that first meeting - it’s almost like a gambling addiction - the unknown and putting skin in the game (literally) for a positive outcome. If they are as good or better than expected, you’ve “won”. If they aren’t, you roll the dice for the next encounter. I’ve often wondered if I’m an undiagnosed sex/gambling addict...lol!

Actually, both men and women are not wired to be monogamous.

Instinctively men want to impregnate as many women as possible, and women want the best male possible.

 

[superstar_88]

I was married for just over 20 years. 15 of those were really good. The divorce sucked, but it’s like ripping off a giant bandaid. It hurts, you bleed, but it feels good once it’s done.

I believe that fear of divorce keeps many bad marriages going. There are valid arguments both ways.

Fear of divorce also keeps from getting married in the first place and true divorce rates do not account for those in bad marriages that should end but don't.

 

[Charlemagne]

What about a statistic for those who split up and live apart without getting divorced.

 

[canada-man]

Couples living apart together (LAT) have an intimate relationship but live at separate addresses.[1][2] LAT couples account for around 10% of adults in Britain, a figure which equates to over a quarter of all those not married or cohabiting. Similar figures are recorded for other countries in northern Europe, including Belgium, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway and Sweden.[3][4] Research suggests similar or even higher rates in southern Europe, although here LAT couples often remain in parental households.[5] In Australia, Canada and the US representative surveys indicate that between 6% and 9% of the adult population has a partner who lives elsewhere.[6][7][8] LAT is also increasingly understood and accepted publicly, is seen by most as good enough for partnering, and subject to the same expectations about commitment and fidelity as marriage or cohabitation.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_apart_together

 

[probyn]

For God's sake, do not live with a woman or marry a woman. Just see SPs. If you must be in a relationship, experiment with LAT (which was mentioned in a previous post) but if you do for God's sake get yourself fixed. Given how Family Law is set up, you are going to be screwed big time if you break up. Most breakups are initiated by the woman because she knows she will clean up. And in many cases the woman plans the breakup months or years in advance. And she has no incentive to behave well during a breakup. (bty I have never been in a long term relationship and I will never be: I have seen too many guys screwed by the system.) I suggest you subscribe to the following channel:

https://youtu.be/lA6vHk2pI0Y

 

[essguy_]

The best male possible means the one who strong, not the one who is sexual active. Once a woman has found him and wants to have his child, she also wants him to protect her and the child from enemies, including predatory animals and other men while being looked after with food clothing and shelter.

Not mutually exclusive. Some can do both.

 

[Occasionally]

50% sounds right to be.

If about 35% of marriages have ended in divorce by the 15th year anniversary, you also have to add all the divorces that happen in year 16 and onward. You can't assume just because they reached their 15th anniversary it means they will be a couple till they die.