Dirty Harry on feminism and women's quotas

NotADcotor

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Reminds me of two things.
One that older lady cop who in a moment of stress pulled a gun instead of a taser and shot a dude which isn't so bad except the dude was black. I wonder if she had the size and strength of a dude, would she have been in such a stressed state.

In Toronto this "porch pirate" was doing his thing and a lady cop drove up. Taser didn't work because he had a jacket on. He ended up chasing her around her vehnicle and smashed it up until a male cop pulled up, got out of his vehicle and tackled him to the ground immediately and got him in cuffs. Off course all the officals were going full potato about how much restraint she showed. Nobody in the news seemed willing to point out the obvious. She couldn't do her fucking job, she had to wait for a man to show up to do it for her.
 

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LOL.......Harry would get cancelled today.....
Not necessarily. There's always a market for Harry and his shtick. Harry was the standard bearer for white, blue collar male angst. He outwitted, outcooled and outkilled evil blacks and evil layabout long hair hippies and he got the moral upper hand with overbearing bosses and uppity feminist women. His triumph was easy, stylish and unvarying.

The same hero type - "the cop who breaks the rules to win" - was done more clownishly by Mel Gibson in the "Lethal Weapon" franchise; way more effectively and convincingly by Bruce Willis in the "Die Hard" franchise; and more realistically by Gene Hackman as Popeye Doyle in "The French Connection".

Somewhere out there is a killer book or PH D thesis on American movie hero types and how they inter-relate to their audiences and the era in which they are made: - from Tom Mix, through the squeaky clean cowboy movies of the 1950's, to Clint's own spaghetti western virtuoso killer outlaws and though the cop heroes to present day.

Anyone know of any such, I would be happy to take recommendations.
 
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Reminds me of two things.
One that older lady cop who in a moment of stress pulled a gun instead of a taser and shot a dude which isn't so bad except the dude was black. I wonder if she had the size and strength of a dude, would she have been in such a stressed state.

In Toronto this "porch pirate" was doing his thing and a lady cop drove up. Taser didn't work because he had a jacket on. He ended up chasing her around her vehnicle and smashed it up until a male cop pulled up, got out of his vehicle and tackled him to the ground immediately and got him in cuffs. Off course all the officals were going full potato about how much restraint she showed. Nobody in the news seemed willing to point out the obvious. She couldn't do her fucking job, she had to wait for a man to show up to do it for her.
yes! because male cops are so different!
 

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Not necessarily. There's always a market for Harry and his shtick. Harry was the standard bearer for white, blue collar male angst. He outwitted, outcooled and outkilled evil blacks and evil layabout long hair hippies and he got the moral upper hand with overbearing bosses and uppity feminist women. His triumph was easy, stylish and unvarying.

The same hero type - "the cop who breaks the rules to win" - was done more clownishly by Mel Gibson in the "Lethal Weapon" franchise; way more effectively and convincingly by Bruce Willis in the "Die Hard" franchise; and more realistically by Gene Hackman as Popeye Doyle in "The French Connection".

Somewhere out there is a killer book or PH D thesis on American movie hero types and how they inter-relate to their audiences and the era in which they are made: - from Tom Mix, through the squeaky clean cowboy movies of the 1950's, to Clint's own spaghetti western virtuoso killer outlaws and though the cop heroes to present day.

Anyone know of any such, I would be happy to take recommendations.
I definitely remember a thesis paper on the move to Rambo and so on during the Regan era.
The "maverick cop" specifically must have something.
It isn't like people hadn't noticed - the Simpsons called it out with a subtle long-form joke.
 
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NotADcotor

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He outwitted, outcooled and outkilled evil blacks and evil layabout long hair hippies
He kills the blacks.
All the big bads are white
But but they are hippies
So was just about everyone under 30 back in the 70's. [crime being a young person's game.
Also
Yeah, that is some white nationalist hippy busting right there.

You are desperate to make the movies fit your narrative.
 

NotADcotor

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yes! because male cops are so different!
You are truly an idiot.
Men are significant taller on average
At the same height they are heavier
Of that mass men will have more fat free mass.
Testosterone.
Yeah, Tina Lockwood and Bev Francis but exceptions prove the rule.

As for your video. So what, that doesn't change the fact that men and women are different.
The results of that video are even more likely when the average women gives up an additional 4 or 5 inches in height and quite a bit of a mass advantage. We have weight classes in combative sports for a reason.
 

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He kills the blacks.
All the big bads are white
But but they are hippies
So was just about everyone under 30 back in the 70's. [crime being a young person's game.
Also

Yeah, that is some white nationalist hippy busting right there.

You are desperate to make the movies fit your narrative.
Everyone under 30 was not a hippie in the 70's. And ffs, no. Crime is not a "young man's game". And yup, the big bads are whites because the movies assume whites run things.

And the clips I have seen DO seem to fit my narrative. It's not as though I woke up one day when I was 15 years old in the 70's and said: "I have to construct a politically correct narrative around Dirty Harry movies." I was 15. But they were considerably more violent than most of the other movies around at the time and the violence seemed based on pretty simple stereotypes. Have I missed some subtle inconsistency in a couple of the movies?.. Yeah, maybe. I watched them for a half-hour or so on TV, didn't like them and usually did something else.
 

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I found an old job wanted ad for a car dealership parts manager that my dad had. Sometime after the second world war(he was a bomber pilot by the way).
It said married male wanted. Could you imagine putting out a job ad that said that today!
 

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Not necessarily. There's always a market for Harry and his shtick. Harry was the standard bearer for white, blue collar male angst. He outwitted, outcooled and outkilled evil blacks and evil layabout long hair hippies and he got the moral upper hand with overbearing bosses and uppity feminist women. His triumph was easy, stylish and unvarying.

The same hero type - "the cop who breaks the rules to win" - was done more clownishly by Mel Gibson in the "Lethal Weapon" franchise; way more effectively and convincingly by Bruce Willis in the "Die Hard" franchise; and more realistically by Gene Hackman as Popeye Doyle in "The French Connection".

Somewhere out there is a killer book or PH D thesis on American movie hero types and how they inter-relate to their audiences and the era in which they are made: - from Tom Mix, through the squeaky clean cowboy movies of the 1950's, to Clint's own spaghetti western virtuoso killer outlaws and though the cop heroes to present day.

Anyone know of any such, I would be happy to take recommendations.
Still at it
 

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yes! because male cops are so different!
The comments from YouTubers is pretty disturbing. Goes to show just how much lack of respect the public has for officers. For his part, the cop likely decided it would be better to get beat down or die than shoot and become the next poster boy for racism.
 

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I found an old job wanted ad for a car dealership parts manager that my dad had. Sometime after the second world war(he was a bomber pilot by the way).
It said married male wanted. Could you imagine putting out a job ad that said that today!
He must have had some incredible stories. What did he fly?
 

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He must have had some incredible stories. What did he fly?
He flew a Halifax and got the DFC once. He did not fly after the war. Pretty quiet guy and rarely even talked about the war.
His older brother kept flying after the war for Texaco. They both came up from Trinidad to join the RCAF.
 
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Robert Mugabe

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The comments from YouTubers is pretty disturbing. Goes to show just how much lack of respect the public has for officers. For his part, the cop likely decided it would be better to get beat down or die than shoot and become the next poster boy for racism.
Well. Respect is earned. I think the ratio of cops abusing their authority and hence abusing the public youtube videos would outnumber the public abusing cops videos by about a million to one. Kind of not hard to understand some of the comments, quite frankly.
 
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He kills the blacks.
All the big bads are white
But but they are hippies
So was just about everyone under 30 back in the 70's. [crime being a young person's game.
Also
Yeah, that is some white nationalist hippy busting right there.

You are desperate to make the movies fit your narrative.
I remember when this movie came out and Clyde Gilmore (Toronto Star movie critic back in the day) commented that it was a cynical 180 to "whitewash" Clint Eastwood's cop movies. If you'll pardon the expression. The whitewash attempt was in response to this....I believe.


America seems to have stayed the course and gone this way anyhow.
 

mandrill

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He flew a Halifax and got the DFC once. He did not fly after the war. Pretty quiet guy and rarely even talked about the war.
His older brother kept flying after the war for Texaco. They both came up from Trinidad to join the RCAF.
Lucky he survived his tour. The odds were heavily against. He must have had a lot of skill to match his bravery.
 

mandrill

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I remember when this movie came out and Clyde Gilmore (Toronto Star movie critic back in the day) commented that it was a cynical 180 to "whitewash" Clint Eastwood's cop movies. If you'll pardon the expression. The whitewash attempt was in response to this....I believe.


America seems to have stayed the course and gone this way anyhow.
That IS a pretty nasty scene. And overtly more violent than anything else in the "maverick cop" genre, where the violence is usually stylized and antiseptic - even in the Die Hard movies.

And the villain is a degenerate hippie long hair.
 
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