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Did you get 2 AstraZeneca jabs?

JuanGoodman

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Well, if you did thinking that the world will open up for you, you were wrong.

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/...vaccine-not-accepted-at-u-s-concert-1.5474634

As much as I would like to make fun of covidiots who bought into this "get the jab now and ask questions later" mentality, I feel sorry for a lot of good people who were led astray by our leaders. I do not wish anybody ill health and I hope that all who got 2 jabs will be fine.

We are led by clowns into this circus!
 
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xmontrealer

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The efficacy of 2 doses of AstraZeneca is as good as 2 doses of Pfizer or Moderna, from what I've heard.

Understandable why the blood clot issue has prevented the FDA from approving it in the USA, but hard to understand why any country wouldn't recognize AstraZeneca fully dosed people as being properly vaccinated.
 
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y2kmark

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Well, if you did thinking that the world will open up for you, you were wrong.

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/...vaccine-not-accepted-at-u-s-concert-1.5474634

As much as I would like to make fun of covidiots who bought into this "get the jab now and ask questions later" mentality, I feel sorry for a lot of good people who were led astray by our leaders. I do not wish anybody ill health and I hope that all who got 2 jabs will be fine.

We are led by clowns into this circus!
China, India and Russia all have their own vaccines, are they crap as well? Any vaccine at all is still almost 100% better than getting Covid. It's like people who will only drink Heinekin Beer. Most people just want to get drunk...
 
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JuanGoodman

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China, India and Russia all have their own vaccines, are they crap as well? Any vaccine at all is still almost 100% better than getting Covid. It's like people who will only drink Heinekin Beer. Most people just want to get drunk...
"overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%"

" receipt of Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines was 94% effective against COVID-19"

Why would you take any vaccine that has smaller percentage of effectiveness against the virus, than your own immune system?
 
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"overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%"
" receipt of Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines was 94% effective against COVID-19"
Why would you take any vaccine that has smaller percentage of effectiveness against the virus, than your own immune system?
When you don't recover from Covid-19 by your own immune system - that means you die.

When you don't get immunity from the vaccine, you don't die, you are just not protected from the infection.

Even though some of the 6% can still get infected by Covid after vaccination, most are mild infection as severe outcome such as hospitalizations and deaths are significantly reduced. More like 99% effectiveness preventing hospitalization. As for the more deadly Indian/Delta variant, Pfizer is still 94% effective in preventing hospitalization.

BTW, CDC has never released any "recovery rate" or "survival rate" numbers. All those are usually from anti-vaxxer tweets or youtubes with unknown source (even though they all stated it's from CDC).
Survival rate is not (1-death rate), and it's never used by CDC.
 

JuanGoodman

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BTW, CDC has never released any "recovery rate" or "survival rate" numbers. All those are usually from anti-vaxxer tweets or youtubes with unknown source (even though they all stated it's from CDC).
Survival rate is not (1-death rate), and it's never used by CDC.
I know that math is racist and shouldn't be used to prove anything but it's just numbers.

Government of Canada website states: Total cases of Covid-19 in Canada 1406253
Total deaths 26012
Total survival rate 97.15 %

And it has to be higher because a lot of people that had Covid-19 did not test for it. Don't forget the asymptomatic ones. ;)

So the real survival rate has to be close to 99.75%
 

SchlongConery

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"overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%"

" receipt of Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines was 94% effective against COVID-19"

Why would you take any vaccine that has smaller percentage of effectiveness against the virus, than your own immune system?

The logic of your argument is fundamentally flawed.

Your simple mind connects these percentages of unrelated outcomes.

Have you ever been really sick with a serious illness that you survived?

Let's take penile/cervical cancer and HPV vaccination as an example.

Human Papilloma Virus' are a main cause of penile and ovarian cancers.

If you notice it early enough, and are man enough to not go into self-denial and seek treatment to burn or cut off the genital warts early, survival rates are high. For you.

But before the wart on your dick gets big enough, and before you grow a set big enough to whip out your dick in front of your Doctor, it's likely you have had sex with your wife, girlfriend, a Tinder hookup or an SP. And now an innocent woman has been infected by your wart growing dick. Kind of like someone who has been exposed to COVID and is asymptomatic , refuses to wear a mask and passes it on to a person who isn't as smart as you who takes Homeopathic and positive thinking medicine.

That unknowing person has been infected by you with a possibly life threatening viral infection.

But from your posting history I seem to recall you are an anti-medical establishment type, preferring to get fleeced by naturopaths and Chinese Medicine Men/Witch Doctors selling you ground rhino horn. The cure for this stupidity and ignoring minor electro-cautery/cryotherapy leading to penile cancer is chopping off your entire dick.

But you "recover" and don't die!!!!

So, like many who have survived COVID with permanent lung damage etc, since you don't die... all is good according to you.

Survival is survival after all!

Gardasil 9 is said to be 98% effective against 9 of the most carcinogenic HPV variants . However, there are rare risks of blood clots with the vaccine.

And it is expensive, so "Big Pharma" is making money off ya!

And "The Government" so strongly recommends this that they will pay for school girls and boys in Grade 7 get vaccinated for free! In fact, these vaccination clinics happen in public schools themselves!!!!!

You'll have to consult with your colleague Dr. TeeJay or the erudite Medical Research Fellow "Canada Man" to check whether Bill Gates is in on the Cabal and using dissolved microchips in this vaccine.
 

lenny2

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"overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%"

" receipt of Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines was 94% effective against COVID-19"

Why would you take any vaccine that has smaller percentage of effectiveness against the virus, than your own immune system?
How would - you - know if "any vaccine... has [a] smaller percentage of effectiveness against the virus, than your (JuanGoodman's) own immune system"?

Nothing you posted stated what your (JuanGoodman's) immune system effectiveness is against the virus.

If you're old & or immunocompromised (e.g. due to being severely overweight) it may not be very good at all. In which case getting the vaccine may save you from severe illness or save your life.

Furthermore being vaccinated reduces the risk of infection which reduces the chances of spreading it to others which helps to end the pandemic sooner, open economies sooner, save people from severe illness, long covid health issues, hospitalization and death.

Moreover, the sooner the populations gets vaccinated, the less risk there will be for new covid19 VOC emerging that are more deadly and or can breakthrough the vaccines and people with healthy immune systems.
 

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"overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%"

" receipt of Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines was 94% effective against COVID-19"

Why would you take any vaccine that has smaller percentage of effectiveness against the virus, than your own immune system?
And the answer is: (1-(1-0.97)*(1-0.94))*100%=99.82% and (1-(1-0.9975)*(1-0.94))*100%=99.99%
 

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"overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%"

" receipt of Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines was 94% effective against COVID-19"

Why would you take any vaccine that has smaller percentage of effectiveness against the virus, than your own immune system?
Because that's what sheeple do. Baaaaahhhhh
 
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Valcazar

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"overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%"

" receipt of Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines was 94% effective against COVID-19"

Why would you take any vaccine that has smaller percentage of effectiveness against the virus, than your own immune system?
You don't realize those numbers are measuring different things, do you?
 

Male4Strapon

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Yup, I see lots of dirty nasty ragged sheep! Hey, does this handle have me on ignore as well TJ?


998% survival rate with no mask! Someone alert the press!
 
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Jenesis

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Well, if you did thinking that the world will open up for you, you were wrong.

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/...vaccine-not-accepted-at-u-s-concert-1.5474634

As much as I would like to make fun of covidiots who bought into this "get the jab now and ask questions later" mentality, I feel sorry for a lot of good people who were led astray by our leaders. I do not wish anybody ill health and I hope that all who got 2 jabs will be fine.

We are led by clowns into this circus!
I took the first shot of AZ. I will take a second of Pfizer or Moderna. So I don’t think I will be effected by this personally. The possible travel issues that is.

But I don’t feel duped at all. I’m glad I took it when I did. And I’m happier that I get a mixed dose to be honest. I may have better protection the others who got double doses of another vaccine.
 

NotADcotor

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"overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%"

" receipt of Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines was 94% effective against COVID-19"

Why would you take any vaccine that has smaller percentage of effectiveness against the virus, than your own immune system?
FFS that 97 to 99.75% would be of the 6% who gets sick.
1000 people get exposed to virus. 30+ based on varients and typical population. Plus the long haulers who survive and people who spend a month plus in misery in an ICU but I am sure you don't give a fuck about them.
1000 vaccinated people get exposed to virus. Only 60 actually get sick. on a typical population with variants 2 or 3 die. Oh but wait, when vaccinated people get sick they die at a lower rate so actually of those 60 you might get 1 death.

30 vs 1

That you actually posted what you did, you should hang your head in shame... or delete it to avoid future embarrassment.

Also while we are at it, the purpose of a vaccine isn't to allow you to go to some concert in another country, it's about keeping you and the people around you safe or safer.
The AZ isn't as good as the mRNAs but they still are effective and at the time we didn't have anywhere near enough vaccines to go around.
Also you have no real understanding of why the AZ wasn't accepted for AMERICAN concerts. The FDA never approved it and with enough home grown options never really needed to.
 

Male4Strapon

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FFS that 97 to 99.75% would be of the 6% who gets sick.
1000 people get exposed to virus. 30+ based on varients and typical population. Plus the long haulers who survive and people who spend a month plus in misery in an ICU but I am sure you don't give a fuck about them.
1000 vaccinated people get exposed to virus. Only 60 actually get sick. on a typical population with variants 2 or 3 die. Oh but wait, when vaccinated people get sick they die at a lower rate so actually of those 60 you might get 1 death.

30 vs 1

That you actually posted what you did, you should hang your head in shame... or delete it to avoid future embarrassment.

Also while we are at it, the purpose of a vaccine isn't to allow you to go to some concert in another country, it's about keeping you and the people around you safe or safer.
The AZ isn't as good as the mRNAs but they still are effective and at the time we didn't have anywhere near enough vaccines to go around.
Also you have no real understanding of why the AZ wasn't accepted for AMERICAN concerts. The FDA never approved it and with enough home grown options never really needed to.
I am standing in my office right now applauding.
Well done sir!
 
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