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[basketcase]

The Kahanists are linked to the JDL, who were the largest terrorist group in the US in the 70's and 80's....

Wait. Weren't you the guy trying to claim Hamas wasn't a terrorist group because they stopped committing terrorism (even though they hadn't)?

Why is it you have no problem describing an Israeli party as terrorists without any evidence of that party being engaged in terrorism yet refuse to admit what the vast majority of the Western world knows, Hamas are terrorists by their own admission.

This is just more evidence that your criticism is based on racism. If you simply stated that Otzma Yehudit was a racist party everyone would agree with you but instead you try and demonize everything about Israel. And yes, Hamas has a similar racist agenda and actually commits terrorism. You silence on them is deafening and telling.



p.s. Why do you feel the need to lie about everything? My condemnations of Otzma Yehudit and terrorism from Jewish settlers are pretty clear and even repeatedly in this thread. You are the one too racially and politically motivated to even admit that terrorism occurs from Palestinian factions.

 

[Frankfooter]

Wait. Weren't you the guy trying to claim Hamas wasn't a terrorist group because they stopped committing terrorism (even though they hadn't)?

This is about you, and how you think that its not a big deal that Netanyahu is partnering with terrorists yet you would never say that Palestinian terrorists could ever be reformed.
This is your racist double standard we are discussing here.

 

[basketcase]

This is about you, and how you think that its not a big deal that Netanyahu is partnering with terrorists yet you would never say that Palestinian terrorists could ever be reformed.
This is your racist double standard we are discussing here.

I am so surprised that you show your racist double standard again and feel the need to lie about everything.

1) Netanyahu is not merging with Otzma Yehudit
2) Although they have a despicable platform, I have seen no sources saying Otzma Yehudit commits acts of terror.
3) Hamas on the other hand openly admits to terrorism and has a platform as nasty as Otzma Yehudit but you are absolutely silent on their racism, obstruction of peace, or the terrorism and war crimes they happily claim credit for.

 

[Frankfooter]

1) Netanyahu is not merging with Otzma Yehudit
2) Although they have a despicable platform, I have seen no sources saying Otzma Yehudit commits acts of terror.
3) Hamas on the other hand openly admits to terrorism and has a platform as nasty as Otzma Yehudit but you are absolutely silent on their racism, obstruction of peace, or the terrorism and war crimes they happily claim credit for.

Sure.

Ben Ari, an avowed Kahanist, was a member of the Knesset between 2009 and 2013. Apart from inciting a pogrom against African refugees in South Tel Aviv, he is famous for tearing up a copy of the New Testament and putting it in a rubbish bin and for referring to Jewish left-wingers as "germs" that need to be eradicated.

In September 2010, in response to being told that for every Israeli killed, six Palestinians had died over the previous 10 years, Ari remarked that "For every one dead on our side, we need to kill 500 and not six." During 2012's Operation Pillar of Defense, he stated that "there are no innocents in Gaza…mow them down! Kill the Gazans without thought or mercy!"

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/netanyahu-embrace-israel-190228090750630.html

But you may be right, Otzma Yehudit isn't really any different from Netanyahu or Israeli policy is it?

 

[basketcase]

Sure....

So why do you accuse a group with only vile polices of being terrorists but refuse to do so with a group with vile policies that actually commits terrorism?

 

[Frankfooter]

So why do you accuse a group with only vile polices of being terrorists but refuse to do so with a group with vile policies that actually commits terrorism?

I say investigate them both and charge as warranted.
Fair?

(we both know you are so biased you would never accept Israel being investigated for any crimes by anyone other than the IDF)

 

[basketcase]

I say investigate them both and charge as warranted....

No you don't.

You have repeatedly accused Otzma Yehudit of terrorism without any evidence yet refuse to say a word about the actual terrorists in Hamas despite the Western world, rights groups, and Hamas themselves all agreeing on the topic.

 

[Frankfooter]

No you don't.

You have repeatedly accused Otzma Yehudit of terrorism without any evidence yet refuse to say a word about the actual terrorists in Hamas despite the Western world, rights groups, and Hamas themselves all agreeing on the topic.

I accuse them and say investigate them for terrorism, just as Hamas should be investigated and charged as warranted.
I knew you would never agree to both sides being treated equally, you are against equality.

Now there are more terrorists up for election in Israel.
Jewish Home, whose leader Michael Ben Ari has been banned entry into the US on terrorism charges, is now joining the election.

Do you really still support terrorism?

 

[basketcase]

I accuse them...

Are you finally admitting that Hamas is a terrorist group?


And I would be perfectly fine with Jewish home being banned as a hate group. Would you be okay with Hamas being banned as a hate group?

 

[Frankfooter]

Are you finally admitting that Hamas is a terrorist group?


And I would be perfectly fine with Jewish home being banned as a hate group. Would you be okay with Hamas being banned as a hate group?

Hamas should be investigated for war crimes and terrorism.
But it does appear that since 2014 they have largely turned away from terrorism while Israel now openly targets civilians.

Your fixation on the word 'terrorism' is tied to your need to dehumanize all Palestinians to justify the racist policies you support.
I don't find the word useful, instead both sides should be investigated for war crimes and human rights violations.

I don't support dehumanizing any groups through labelling them 'terrorists'.

 

[basketcase]

Hamas should be investigated for war crimes and terrorism.
...
Your fixation on the word 'terrorism'...

Amnesty, HRW have already investigated yet you till refuse to describe Hamas as terrorists. Hamas admits they are terrorists. Why are you so afraid of describing Hamas as terrorists even when the groups you pretend to support say so?


And it is pretty sad that you think that gunning down random Jews, bombing civilian buses, or shooting up restaurants don't count as terrorism but you call a Jewish political party terrorists for only talking about racial hatred.

 

[Frankfooter]

Amnesty, HRW have already investigated yet you till refuse to describe Hamas as terrorists. Hamas admits they are terrorists. Why are you so afraid of describing Hamas as terrorists even when the groups you pretend to support say so?


And it is pretty sad that you think that gunning down random Jews, bombing civilian buses, or shooting up restaurants don't count as terrorism but you call a Jewish political party terrorists for only talking about racial hatred.

Amnesty, HRW have also reported on Israeli actions, so I support the same call.
Investigate Hamas and Israel based on all reports by Amnesty, HRW, the UN, B'teselem and other legit human rights organizations.

Let the ICC investigate both sides and tell us who is really acting like terrorists.

Its pretty sad that you have never once supported both sides being treated equally by the law and instead call only for Palestinians to be investigated.
Both sides should be treated the same.

 

[basketcase]

Amnesty, HRW have also reported on ....

Sorry but your racism is clear. You endlessly criticize Israel and quote groups like Amnesty as proof (even for made up accusations like your baseless claim that the fringe racist party is Israel are terrorists) but even after those groups criticize Hamas you stay silent.

 

[Frankfooter]

Sorry but your racism is clear. You endlessly criticize Israel and quote groups like Amnesty as proof.

Wow, so quoting Amnesty is racist now?
I had no idea that discussing human rights violations is now racist in your ever shrinking mind.

 

[basketcase]

Wow, so quoting Amnesty is racist now?...

Your refusal to quote Amnesty when they criticize Hamas is what makes it racist. Just more of your racist double standard.

Why are you incapable of admitting Hamas are terrorists?

 

[canada-man]

Wow, so quoting Amnesty is racist now?
I had no idea that discussing human rights violations is now racist in your ever shrinking mind.

pot meets kettle you attacked me for not supporting BLM telling me i should think alike



Amazing how you support the down trodding of your own people.

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...Lemon-Laughs&p=6238846&viewfull=1#post6238846

 

[Frankfooter]

Your refusal to quote Amnesty when they criticize Hamas is what makes it racist. Just more of your racist double standard.

Why are you incapable of admitting Hamas are terrorists?

Please provide the quotes from Amnesty and I will back them.
And I expect the same from you, right?

 

[basketcase]

Please provide the quotes from Amnesty and I will back them.
And I expect the same from you, right?

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/unlawful-and-deadly-palestinian-rocket-attacks-gaza
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...ivilians-on-both-sides-in-2014-gaza-conflict/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32053999
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/04/25/israel/palestine-hamas-bus-bombing-targets-civilians
https://www.hrw.org/news/2010/09/02/west-bank/israel-hamas-must-end-attacks-civilians
https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-...ian-terrorist-attacks-against-Israelis-434813

Will you finally admit that Hamas is a terrorist group?

 

[Frankfooter]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/unlawful-and-deadly-palestinian-rocket-attacks-gaza
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...ivilians-on-both-sides-in-2014-gaza-conflict/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32053999
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/04/25/israel/palestine-hamas-bus-bombing-targets-civilians
https://www.hrw.org/news/2010/09/02/west-bank/israel-hamas-must-end-attacks-civilians
https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-...ian-terrorist-attacks-against-Israelis-434813

Will you finally admit that Hamas is a terrorist group?

Yes, those 4 or 5 acts you found occurring in the last 8 years are acts of terrorism, if you define terrorism as violence targeting civilians.
Note that you had to go back 8 years to find that many acts.
And note also that at present Israel is targeting and killing Palestinian civilians on a weekly basis, and has been doing so for a year.

If you are calling deliberately targeting civilians 'terrorism' and are willing to use that same definition on both sides for all war crimes reported by Amnesty and HRW, then sure.
Are you willing to Israel 'terrorists' for also targeting civilians?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/

Is targeting civilians 'terrorism' when its done by both sides or do you use that term on a racist basis and only apply it to Palestinians?


(and by the way, I fully support all those crimes listed as well as all others reported by Amnesty and HRW to be fully investigated and charges laid as warranted. Will you?)

 

[basketcase]

Yes, those 4 or 5 acts you found occurring in the last 8 years are acts of terrorism, if you define terrorism as violence targeting civilians....

I guess this is as close as you come to admitting Hamas are terrorists.

Hamas recently attacked three bus stops full of civilians but of course you want to ignore that.