May I suggest and just as a friendly suggestion you stick with Rebel News and let the rest of us who enjoy The CBC continue to do so. I find them to be honest and when they do make an error they retract the story. I also enjoyed their coverage along with the other coverage of Global, CTV etc, showing what a bunch of twats blocked the bridge and infested and occupied Ottawa. I am thankful Justin enacted the Emergency Act at Doug Ford's request as he did the same to clear the bridge.
Defunding CBC
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Having read through this thread (not all posts), many of you have an incorrect view of the CBC. First and foremost, it is not a "state broadcaster" or propaganda arm as many righties want to pretend it is. They go out of their way to point out any time the CBC is hard on a Conservative politician to say that is their liberal agenda or some other bullshit. The reality is the CBC is probably the only media outlet in Canada that bends over backwards to be as centrist or impartial as possible. Yes, the Ezra Levant and Brian Lilley's try to paint it with that brush, and I know many of you righties (and maybe even some lefties) feel that it is. However, I will remind you that Jean Chretien was very angry with the CBC's coverage back in the day. In fact, virtually ever PM has been upset with the CBC's coverage at some point.
Now, from what I can see, hear and understand from people who work there....there are issues that should/could be addressed. First and foremost, they waste a lot of that budget by creating shows that nobody watches. Not all of them, I mean, Schitt's Creek was a major hit, but how many of you have watched Murdock Mysteries???
From my understanding, there is little pressure on the entertainment executives to create hit shows. They don't get fired if they continuously develop crap year in and year out, as long as it has Can-Con. I mean, they had potential for things. I remember thinking Little Mosque on the Prairie could have been a great show. I watched the first two episodes and it was so.....bland. It was all about the main dude mugging to the camera making over how people misunderstood being muslim in a post-9/11 world. But it wasn't funny. Lord knows how that show lasted six seasons (or whatever it was). A buddy of mine thought they should make shows like the BBC, where they might only do four to six episodes, but they are high quality, tight and well written. It would be great to have a bunch of shows on streaming services across the world that we wouldn't cringe at people watching...
Now, on the news front. CBC, as someone mentioned, is the only broadcaster that covers the ENTIRE country. They have stations or newsrooms in every province and territory. I mean, does CTV or Global have anyone in PEI or Nunavut? I do not have an issue with their coverage, though they are going a little crazy with the Queen/King right now....They cover stories in more depth than the private broadcasters, and as I said above, they try to be right down the middle. I mean, you could make a very credible argument that CTV is very conservative (I mean, their former political correspondent got appointed to the Senate by Harper), and they crucified Stephen Dion back in the day. But, talking to people I know who've worked there, they are bloated with managers and what not. They have more writers and producers than any other channel in Canada...and possibly the US. They could do more with fewer people, and use that money to make better entertainment shows or documentaries. A buddy of mine works on the new Summit Series doc, so he's told me all about the BS in that place.
So, to summarize, I do not think we should defund the CBC. It provides a vital service to keep the country connected. I would love it if they could actually invest in Canadian shows. I mean that they get the best and brightest Canadian talent to develop great show. I mean, we know there is fantastic Canadian talent. They just need options to work here more frequently. Unfortunately, I don't know if that is something they can ever do.
Now, from what I can see, hear and understand from people who work there....there are issues that should/could be addressed. First and foremost, they waste a lot of that budget by creating shows that nobody watches. Not all of them, I mean, Schitt's Creek was a major hit, but how many of you have watched Murdock Mysteries???
From my understanding, there is little pressure on the entertainment executives to create hit shows. They don't get fired if they continuously develop crap year in and year out, as long as it has Can-Con. I mean, they had potential for things. I remember thinking Little Mosque on the Prairie could have been a great show. I watched the first two episodes and it was so.....bland. It was all about the main dude mugging to the camera making over how people misunderstood being muslim in a post-9/11 world. But it wasn't funny. Lord knows how that show lasted six seasons (or whatever it was). A buddy of mine thought they should make shows like the BBC, where they might only do four to six episodes, but they are high quality, tight and well written. It would be great to have a bunch of shows on streaming services across the world that we wouldn't cringe at people watching...
Now, on the news front. CBC, as someone mentioned, is the only broadcaster that covers the ENTIRE country. They have stations or newsrooms in every province and territory. I mean, does CTV or Global have anyone in PEI or Nunavut? I do not have an issue with their coverage, though they are going a little crazy with the Queen/King right now....They cover stories in more depth than the private broadcasters, and as I said above, they try to be right down the middle. I mean, you could make a very credible argument that CTV is very conservative (I mean, their former political correspondent got appointed to the Senate by Harper), and they crucified Stephen Dion back in the day. But, talking to people I know who've worked there, they are bloated with managers and what not. They have more writers and producers than any other channel in Canada...and possibly the US. They could do more with fewer people, and use that money to make better entertainment shows or documentaries. A buddy of mine works on the new Summit Series doc, so he's told me all about the BS in that place.
So, to summarize, I do not think we should defund the CBC. It provides a vital service to keep the country connected. I would love it if they could actually invest in Canadian shows. I mean that they get the best and brightest Canadian talent to develop great show. I mean, we know there is fantastic Canadian talent. They just need options to work here more frequently. Unfortunately, I don't know if that is something they can ever do.
From your source
That is not a subside
The govt does not write a cheque to the oil companies
It is a Capital Cost allowance against taxable income available to all companies which purchase assets & capital equipment, (including the laptop your company bought for you to use).
Available to all companies to encourage investment in their business
You can not exclude specific industries (out of spite ??? )
Eliminate all Capital Cost allowances? OK >>>>> half the capital equipment purchases stop and half the economical viable projects in the economy stop
>>>>>>>>> recession / depression via stupidity
What part of this RBC report did you fail to understand ?
RBC: oil and gas companies poured $48 billion into government coffers | Financial Post
That could rise to $64 billion in royalties and taxes in 2023 if oil prices stay high
pays for the CBC close to thirty times, while the CBC villainizes the industry , how does that smell for you?
you are so very wrong
the cash flows ARE from oil companies to government AND IN A BIG WAY
lose the insults
no need for you to be both wrong and obnoxious at the same time
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Odd how Pierre P came to the same conclusion
Buy the way it is the taxpayer who funds the CBC , independent of the taxpayer political view
No doubt Stephen Harper was annoyed & perhaps should have neutered the CBC
internet penetration in the far north was likely not a complete as it is now either
However, he could not have envisioned Justin Trudeau would dream up an excuse to up the payments to the media
You are pulling an ostrich if you do not see the liberal bias in the media
What is a news reporter doing heckling a poetical candidate at a news conference ?
Atkin confirmed his bias latter on twitter
David Akin
on Twitter: "Lots of readers/viewers called me about today’s Parliament Hill presser. Many said I was rude and disrespectful to @PierrePoilievre . I agree. I’m sorry for that. We all want politicians to answer questions — but there are better ways of making that point." / Twitter
OK Turdeau. Forgot you speak for ALL Canadians. Welcome to my block list. From what I've read, I am definitely not the first.Bottom line.
Canadians want to fund the CBC.
PP chose yet another unpopular platform.
Culture is important and its worth remembering how we are different from the US.
National Newswatch
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Smh! You're entitled to your opinion, not mine.
When you use the word 'woke' to discuss bias all it does is reveal your own bias.
More single tiny examples to try and justify your wild-ass assertions. Weak, dude.....Odd how Pierre P came to the same conclusion
Buy the way it is the taxpayer who funds the CBC , independent of the taxpayer political view
No doubt Stephen Harper was annoyed & perhaps should have neutered the CBC
internet penetration in the far north was likely not a complete as it is now either
However, he could not have envisioned Justin Trudeau would dream up an excuse to up the payments to the media
You are pulling an ostrich if you do not see the liberal bias in the media
What is a news reporter doing heckling a poetical candidate at a news conference ?
Atkin confirmed his bias latter on twitter
David Akin
You need so much more than this to become relevant......
I think that would be a much better model for the CBC to use.
Now we are opening a whole new level of discussion, the shit government education system. I would not want to pay for that too.
Just curious, where did you go to school? In Canada. right here in Ontario? The public system I am assuming and not a private one?
The roads in your neighbourhood are really shitty too.
I don't want to pay for that.
I'm sick and tired of contributing to peoples health care, especially the ones who don't abide by Public Health advice. Do you know where I can apply for a refund?
too funny
Had an accredited new journalist prevented Justin Trudeau from speaking you would be demand his / her termination.
Oh wait, Justin's security detail laid a beating on a Rebel reporter for asking a question in a public place
What Canadian Prime Minister, Trudeau, did to journalist with Rebel News - National Daily Newspaper (nationaldailyng.com)
I guess you are relieved Global News is even more brazen, biased and dis-respectful as Rebel News
and Global News get $ from Justin , Rebel news does not
you ignore what you do not like
Comparing Healthcare to Media is like comparing apples to potatoes.
We all use OHIP at some point, when we need it. It's insurance, just like car insurance. I don't get into car accidents, but pay for insurance in case my luck runs out.
We all use roads to drive or walk. Public education was publicly funded when we were growing up and it'll remain.
Media is different. It's not as essential I'd argue. I personally don't watch or listen to much of it. Very depressing.
We all use OHIP at some point, when we need it. It's insurance, just like car insurance. I don't get into car accidents, but pay for insurance in case my luck runs out.
We all use roads to drive or walk. Public education was publicly funded when we were growing up and it'll remain.
Media is different. It's not as essential I'd argue. I personally don't watch or listen to much of it. Very depressing.
I'd disagree, you can't have a democracy without an open and free press to keep tabs.
Corporate and private media don't have to answer to the people the way the CBC does.
Nice to have a discussion about the efficiencies of government. What would you like your government to do?
Security, policing and military yes
Health care yes with an option to private care
Education yes, but with the ability to opt out and use the private system
I admit to being more of a libertarian with less government better than more. We are presently over governed and over regulated.
CBC is a perfect example of unnecessary government encroachment.
I can promise you, if Ezra Levant thought he could get cash from the government, he would. However, his "news" site isn't news. Believe me, he only cares about money. When he was at Sun, he railed against cable companies forcing subscribers to pay for CTV and CBC news channels. But, once Sun started suffering money woes, his tone changed and he started slamming the CRTC for not making Sun a mandatory carry.
As for the Menzoid...He isn't exactly known for following the rules. And, here's a hint: Those dudes who allegedly roughed him up are not Justin's thugs. They are the RCMP. They provided the same level of protection to Harper. It's just that mainstream journalists don't get in the way and ignore being asked to move to the side. And, this isn't his first brush with the law. You will see about 8 years ago he was allegedly manhandled by CP or CN rail security for trespassing....So....Does he have a pattern here? Maybe..
As for David Akin, the man is neither a liberal or conservative. He worked at Sun and CTV before going to Global. His credentials and past speak for themselves. I'm not going to say he handled this well, but all the journalists wanted to ask PP questions, and he just wanted to spew his talking points with no push back. Does he think he can do that until the next election? Avoid scrutiny and the hard questions from the media? And of course PP started fundraising immediately afterwards.
