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Butler1000

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Therefore everyone should die. After all, it doesn't affect Butler.
Let's see who is the most humane.

Do you believe Healthcare is a human right? Or a commodity?
 

Butler1000

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Indeed...it requires a rather privileged existence to be this insensitive to the immediate harm being caused by his decisions and the decisions he supports upon the very people that he claims to care about.

Not unlike Trump, himself.

Sorta like a general’s usung his front line troops as cannon fodder in the quest for some greater good.
The premise is flawed. The USA is wealthy enough and has the capability to give Universal Healthcare to every man woman and child in the nation.

They chose not to for profit.

You are discussing hypothetical things. That is fact.

I chose to comment negatively on that, you choose to accept it. Accept that tens of thousands die because they can't afford healthcare in the USA.

That's real. The casualties are already real. I want to stop the deaths. You are the one already saying it's ok.
 

Frankfooter

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The premise is flawed. The USA is wealthy enough and has the capability to give Universal Healthcare to every man woman and child in the nation.

They chose not to for profit.
So obviously you backed the guy most likely to make sure it would never happen and to kill any vestiges of public healthcare.
 

Butler1000

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So spending two consecutive election campaigns smearing Trump's opponent isn't acting in trump's interest?
It's hoping people realize neither party's leadership us good.

Sorry if you don't like it. But continuing to vote for the policies that made people want to vote for Trump is just stupid.
 

Frankfooter

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It's hoping people realize neither party's leadership us good.

Sorry if you don't like it. But continuing to vote for the policies that made people want to vote for Trump is just stupid.
Voting for Trump is stupid from someone who supports public health care.
Stupid.
 

Butler1000

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Butler1000

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... By only condemning one side?
I've clearly stated I would not vote for Trump because he isn't qualified to be President.

And really it's just a waste of time to parrot the daily outrage machine.

So why can't you accept legitimate criticism of Biden?
 

Boober69

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So why does that pizza in the US cost way more than any other country while providing worse pizza outcomes?
Depends on how you look at it...some of the best pizza shops in the world are in the US. Could they exist if no one was using them? If they were not affordable would anyone buy from them them?

Yet they flourish and it's not just millionaires buying their pizza.
 

Knuckle Ball

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Depends on how you look at it...some of the best pizza shops in the world are in the US. Could they exist if no one was using them? If they were not affordable would anyone buy from them them?

Yet they flourish and it's not just millionaires buying their pizza.
Historically, the only ones who have been able to access this high quality, delicious pizza in the US have been:
1. Wealthy citizens;
2. Citizens who have unionized their pizza shopping into a collective endeavour to negotiate favourable prices.

This second set of citizens is becoming increasingly rare in the high end pizza market as Freedom to Eat Laws have eroded the ability of these groups to organize. :(
 

basketcase

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Depends on how you look at it...some of the best pizza shops in the world are in the US. Could they exist if no one was using them? If they were not affordable would anyone buy from them them?

Yet they flourish and it's not just millionaires buying their pizza.
Yes, there are some fantastic pizza shops in the US and some really shitty ones. Even people with some kind of pizza rewards program can't get their plan to pay for certain types of pizza and limit them to certain pizzerias. Many of them, along with the people how don't have loyalty rewards points have to declare bankruptcy to afford any kind of pizza.

Meanwhile in Canada, we have essentially free access to pizza. Like in the US, the quality of the pizza differs from place to place but in places like Toronto, we have pizzerias that rival some of the best in the world. Sometimes you have to wait a bit longer for your pizza and sometimes you have to pay extra for the dipping sauce but people have access to the food they need and don't have to worry about selling their home to pay for it.
 

basketcase

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I've clearly stated I would not vote for Trump because he isn't qualified to be President.

And really it's just a waste of time to parrot the daily outrage machine.

So why can't you accept legitimate criticism of Biden?
If your 'legitimate' criticism of Biden was matched by your legitimate criticism of Trump, I'd believe you. It isn't.
 
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