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Dear Butler1000: I need your advice

basketcase

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What remains will be a bunch of pizza shops that offer fantaatic pizza at an affordable price rather than a bunch of shitty pizza makers not caring because people are forced to buy from them.
So why does that pizza in the US cost way more than any other country while providing worse pizza outcomes?
 

Butler1000

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"But now Democrats are acting like Republicans, and lying while they do it."

Define "acting like Republicans".
Voting for wars, condoning torture, increasing military budgets, taking money from the same lobbyists, cowtowing to wall st.......

That's a start.
 

Butler1000

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So you prefer to condemn democrats for being too slow for your tastes and praise the honesty of republicans who are out to destroy the vestiges of publicly funded health care. Nice.
They aren't slow. They had the chance, both federally and in California. Both times it was detailed by Democrats.

And Joe Biden is on record repeatedly wanting to cut Medicare for Seniors.

Talk is cheap. Their actions speak volumes.
 

Butler1000

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All things republicans did more of.
They both did it equally. Look at the votes. Nicely bypartisan.

Add in renewal of the Patriot Act.
 

Valcazar

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It doesn't work because of the premise Healthcare is a commodity. I consider it a human right.
That's why I made it so it was the only way to actually feed people.

But ok.

There is a ship and some lifeboats. In the current situation, only 70% of the people could be saved by the lifeboats. One group has come up with a plan to make it 85% saved. The other group thinks 70% lets too many undesirable people get saved, so they want to change the plan to make it that only 40% of the people get saved.

Butler says helping the people save 15% more people is useless because it means everyone isn't saved. That group says they want to save more people but they aren't saving everybody. Better to refuse to help them and let the group who will only save 40% of the people win out because at least they are honest.

Also, it turns out Butler isn't on the ship at all and so won't die if he doesn't have a lifeboat.
 

Valcazar

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Voting for wars, condoning torture, increasing military budgets, taking money from the same lobbyists, cowtowing to wall st.......

That's a start.
So your definition of "acting like a Republican" is "everyone", gotcha.
 

Valcazar

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They aren't slow. They had the chance, both federally and in California. Both times it was detailed by Democrats.

And Joe Biden is on record repeatedly wanting to cut Medicare for Seniors.

Talk is cheap. Their actions speak volumes.
Their actions continually expanding access to medical care does speak volumes. I am sorry that it does not live up to your magic farting unicorn version of how politics works.
Your inability to understand the difference between "willing" and "wanting" is also not a good sign of your ability to function in society.
 

Butler1000

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Their actions continually expanding access to medical care does speak volumes. I am sorry that it does not live up to your magic farting unicorn version of how politics works.
Your inability to understand the difference between "willing" and "wanting" is also not a good sign of your ability to function in society.
There is that Republican word....

"Access"

I have access to Leafs Platinum tickets. I can't afford them.

Same with healthcare in the USA. Access isn't getting.
 

Butler1000

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That's why I made it so it was the only way to actually feed people.

But ok.

There is a ship and some lifeboats. In the current situation, only 70% of the people could be saved by the lifeboats. One group has come up with a plan to make it 85% saved. The other group thinks 70% lets too many undesirable people get saved, so they want to change the plan to make it that only 40% of the people get saved.

Butler says helping the people save 15% more people is useless because it means everyone isn't saved. That group says they want to save more people but they aren't saving everybody. Better to refuse to help them and let the group who will only save 40% of the people win out because at least they are honest.

Also, it turns out Butler isn't on the ship at all and so won't die if he doesn't have a lifeboat.
Another false premise. Because that means the USA chose to be a boat without enough lifeboats.

Every other western nation has enough boats because they choose to take care of their citizens. The USA has enough money to have enough lifeboats.

They choose to spend it on Torpedoes and Lobster buffets for the rich.

And when the boat sinks they load the rich on the lifeboats first.

Nope I'm on a boat where we have enough lifeboats. Why wouldn't you want to be on a boat with enough of them?

Would you get in a boat knowing this?

How stupid is that?
 

Butler1000

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Butler1000

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Their actions continually expanding access to medical care does speak volumes. I am sorry that it does not live up to your magic farting unicorn version of how politics works.
Your inability to understand the difference between "willing" and "wanting" is also not a good sign of your ability to function in society.
You are supporting the notion the USA, the richest nation on earth can't afford to care for its citizens.

Every other western nation does. Even Communist Cuba does.

And your life expectancy has dropped two years.

Quite simply you place corporate profits above the health of your citizens.

And you call this acceptable politics.
 

Butler1000

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Here is what you did V......

You just clarified the USA if it was a boat is operating just like the Titanic.....

And you may have just hit the Covid-19 iceberg......

Good luck!
 

Frankfooter

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You are supporting the notion the USA, the richest nation on earth can't afford to care for its citizens.

Every other western nation does. Even Communist Cuba does.

And your life expectancy has dropped two years.

Quite simply you place corporate profits above the health of your citizens.

And you call this acceptable politics.
And Trump will fix it?
 

Butler1000

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You do, you post endlessly how bad Biden is but never about Trump.
Your posts are as hardcore Trumptard as anyone on this board.
Lol. You are equating critical thought on one with support of the other.

So simple.

Btw Warren has now completely abandoned M4A in her quest to suck up to Biden. So much for her being progressive.
 

Butler1000

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Valcazar

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Therefore everyone should die. After all, it doesn't affect Butler.
 

Knuckle Ball

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Therefore everyone should die. After all, it doesn't affect Butler.
Indeed...it requires a rather privileged existence to be this insensitive to the immediate harm being caused by his decisions and the decisions he supports upon the very people that he claims to care about.

Not unlike Trump, himself.

Sorta like a general’s usung his front line troops as cannon fodder in the quest for some greater good.
 
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