According to government reports there are more than 135,000 mostly 'dads' failed to pay child supports in Ontario. If my SO filed for a divorce,she would have to pay me so I can keep up with my hobby
Dead beat parent?
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...ok thenIf my SO filed for a divorce,she would have to pay me so I can keep up with my hobby
Given that the govt. agency can suspend drivers licenses and garnishee wages, I am surprised at the high number.
I'm of two minds on this issue.Yes, I've had friends who have simply gotten screwed with their pants on when it came to child support.amounts that went to partying,the new Bf, and no where near the child.
The other side is a more personal experience.My wife's children's(2) father was a deadbeat..pure and simple....definition of the term....he has not had a licence in 10 years....works tax free jobs as much as he can to avoid paying.His belief was that since the kids were living with us(the judge refused him partial custody) we should be paying 100%(Like they were some type of toys he didn't get to play with instead of human beings).They are good children and the last turns 18 in 1 year and 3 months.I'll have my say then.I really wish the federal government would go after more of these particular deadbeats...
The other side is a more personal experience.My wife's children's(2) father was a deadbeat..pure and simple....definition of the term....he has not had a licence in 10 years....works tax free jobs as much as he can to avoid paying.His belief was that since the kids were living with us(the judge refused him partial custody) we should be paying 100%(Like they were some type of toys he didn't get to play with instead of human beings).They are good children and the last turns 18 in 1 year and 3 months.I'll have my say then.I really wish the federal government would go after more of these particular deadbeats...
But you should also look at the men's perspective: they have to pay alimoney but don't get shared custody or access to the kids.
What were some of the financial numbers at the time of the split. A stay at home Mom..with no earnings..tends to get money...aside from custody issues.
When I was younger I had a friend who worked in the tow truck business. He would go out to the late-night RIDE programs. He mentioned it wasn't the number of drivers who were impaired that surprised him, but rather the number with suspended licenses. These people likely don't have insurance either, they may have the pink slip but very likely have cancelled it. As far as I know, the Police have no means to verify if a policy is still in force during a road side check. It should be no surprise the number of licensed suspended and uninsured drivers there are.
If an employer receives a garnishment notice from the Ministry of Social Service, it is an added burden to the employer for record keeping and remittances. The employer is obliged to comply. It usually doesn't take long for the employee to quit and try finding work under the radar.
At this point, you've no license, no insurance, no job and likely a poor credit rating. I'm not saying this happens all the time, but some will let the situation escalate.
Alimony and child support are two different issues.
A man paying child support should be able to see his children, unless the Court has determined he is a danger to them in some way.
It makes me sick how some people use their kids as pawns in their battles with exes.
To clarify.He had full access to the kids.....I even drove them to his house for overnights and weekends.I see where your coming from and can only speak of personal experience.This guy was a fuck up.
That's right. If a man is too poor to pay child support, then he should not be allowed to see his children. You have a perfect understanding of the legal system.
CORRECT.... & thank goodness because most with no insurance or licence have had poor driving habbits & are a danger on the road.
Think the police are no longer allowed to check your drivers license and insurance at RIDE type stops, unless you are being charged or there is some reason to check. Has been like this for many years.
dead beat parent's are a big deal. At my job they actually have a policy that they will not accept the resignation of an employee for 2 weeks because so many guys quit when they are ordered to pay child support. When most of them take the time to think it over they don't quit, but some do. This is a good unionized job with great benefits and good pay and I am stunned when guys will give it up out of rage over supporting their own kids. I know guys who have left the province because they thought they would lose their license for non payment. Half the women in our office are divorced and only one gets child support payments and that's only because her ex husband works for the government and it's garnished. A lot of women with kids will end up on welfare and we will be paying for the kids when the deadbeats can't be bothered. It's one thing if they can't - but most just won't. I proudly pay it - although I am trying to end the payments now that the "kids" are in university. They wouldn't have got this far without it.
I was actually referring to guys who pay the support and still get dicked around about visitation, but you do raise a good point.
Is he poor through no fault of his own, making an effort, doing his best? Of course he should be able to see them.
Is he poor because he chooses not to work so he won't have to contribute to the support of his children? Or does he just appear poor because he's choosing to work under-the-table so he won't have to contribute? No, he should not be able to see them. Why should he reap the benefits of parenthood when he's actively avoiding the responsibility?
Just my opinions, not intended as a legal analysis.
I think I would have a tough time paying it. It just strikes me as crazy that on a divorce, she gets the kids and he gets the bills. I guess this is why I can't get married. This just makes no sense to me.
Why should she reap the benefits of parenthood without having to work? And to any woman who says that raising kids is work, just tell her that he will get the kids while she gets a job. She will immediately make it clear that she is not getting a job.
I was just reading this on my latest plate renewal. Great in my books because I have often had to go back to the car because I forgot my insurance there. I really don't mind 'big brother' constantly scanning plates as they drive to get the unlicensed and uninsured off the road.
Being a child of divorce, it's good that we have a system to try and make sure kids get what they are due but the basis of the system is still a touch antiquated and guys tend to get screwed when it comes to custodial issues.
Bills for half the essentials sure seems reasonable to me. I have a divorced buddy who gets alimony from his wife but also pays child support to her with no complaint.
If your ex-spouse has a good layer they can. If later on your financial situation changes for the worse you can apply for a change but it costs, time, effort, and money.
