Daty, BBBJ *IMPORTANT*

I don't mean to discourage you from daty - I'll be working out down at the Y later on, myself. :p

It sounded like the original poster and a few others were saying it isn't okay.
 
Is it really worth the risk?

For those the sp's and clients that offer and receive services like BBBJ, BBBJTCCIM, DATY, RIMMING etc., Is it really worth the risk of contracting a std even if it is still a low risk??? Is it really worth the risk of spreading it to your SO for clients and to other clients and SO for sps? Most stds go undetected so you'll never now what your getting when performing or recieving these services. So why risk spreading it more?
 
Svend said:
You can't tell if a guy is free of STD's visually. It isn't determined by if he recently showered, if he dresses well, enjoys classical music or by the size of his wallet.
If you really think daty is a big risk, you either shouldn't take part in it or you should always use dental dams.

That's an excellent argument for abstinence or a committed monogamous relationship for life.

Unfortunately, sex is not so simple for most people -- which is why we have STDs and unplanned pregnancies.

Every time you have sex, you are taking some degree of risk. The point is, what level of risk are you comfortable with? Myself, I'm comfortable with daty and bbbj. First, transmission rates are extremely low when compared with other sexual activities. Secondly, even among these already extremely low rates, female-to-male transmission is even that much more extremely low than male-to-female transmission. So overall, I feel that the risk to myself of getting HIV this way is extremely low, and it's that much more extremely low that I would give it to a male partner through daty or bbbj.

Now let's look at the "up" side of these activities. They are very, very pleasurable -- and let's face it, I'm in the pleasure business. I don't make my money moralizing, diagnosing, providing health advice, or counselling. I make my money sharing the gift of pleasure with other people. I have a responsibility to protect myself and my partners, to be sure -- but within reason. If you're going to say that ANY risk is unacceptable, then not a one of us here should be doing what we're doing. All of us are taking some degree of risk simply by being involved in this.

But there's more to it than that. I have seen people make risk choices over the years based on some very dubious reasoning. For example, I do a duo with an escort who insists that our over-50, married, upper middle class client with two kids in college from the heartland change condoms six times in an hour session because these are her policies -- only to learn later that she's had unprotected oral with a 20-something, unmarried, male escort who is also in another high risk group. Don't laugh! I saw it happen not long ago.

I've seen escorts who refused to kiss, refused bbbj, etc. on the grounds of health reasons take up with some guys in their personal lives that I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole because they were drug users or there was some question of whether they were playing for both teams.

I'm sure it's the same for the customers.

One thing I'm sorry we don't see more of on these boards are discussions and ideas for sexy fun that doesn't involve penetration or possible exchange of body fluids. There are some really fun things people can do that are much safer than regular sex. Wouldn't it be better to encourage discussion of these activities than to engage in scare tactics and condemn people for their choices?

..c..
 
newtohobby said:
For those the sp's and clients that offer and receive services like BBBJ, BBBJTCCIM, DATY, RIMMING etc., Is it really worth the risk of contracting a std even if it is still a low risk??? Is it really worth the risk of spreading it to your SO for clients and to other clients and SO for sps? Most stds go undetected so you'll never now what your getting when performing or recieving these services. So why risk spreading it more?
If it is too risky for you, you are free to abstain.

Why do you care what other consenting adults choose to do?

Some are having BBFS, so what?

Are you worrried in case one of them might rape you?:eek:
 
Mao Tse Tongue said:
Huh? The thread is about "relative" risk. bbbj's are not without risk, but getting HIV from oral is simply not going to happen in 99.9% of cases.

As people have said again and again, this hobby has its risks. It's up to the individual person to decide their level of risk.

So what happens on your 100th or 101st experience?
 
Malibook said:
If it is too risky for you, you are free to abstain.

Why do you care what other consenting adults choose to do?

Some are having BBFS, so what?

Are you worrried in case one of them might rape you?

Because I have friends and others that I care about!:(
 
Svend said:
I doubt daty is off the menu for most girls, I've never seen one offer a dental dam either.
Escorts shouldn't tell us that it's unsafe unless they backup their words with action.

Daty is potentially most unsafe for the individual using his /her tongue.

BBBJ is potentially most unsafe for the individual with the cock in his/her mouth.
 
Not worth the risk

As a matter of fact, I don`t take part of any of these services. I`m not one willing to take the risk of catching something and spreading it on. This is how stds spread. If you catch and std and had a SO, would u feel good about spreading it to them? IMO, its not worth the risk. Not worried about being raped either but not sure what that has to do with this discussion. IF you don`t think its a big deal about people having BBFS, then read this thread

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=126674



Malibook said:
If it is too risky for you, you are free to abstain.

Why do you care what other consenting adults choose to do?

Some are having BBFS, so what?

Are you worrried in case one of them might rape you?:eek:
 
Listen up Newtohobby the majority of the people that perform bbfs are reg people that are dating or steady .....so just because one gal has a deathwish add for wanting hiv wanting to do lots of men shes like 1 in thousands that be so stupid and quite frankly ......theres never a garantee even when your married the other can cheat and bring you home an extra bonus .....i feel your tension maybe you just need to get laid already
 
dating, married people offering BBFS?

I don't recall regular people , dating people offering services like BBFS. I thought they would just have unprotected sex. Never thought it's a service for 2 knowing people. For the cheating spouse, my point was if is was worth the risk of catching something and speading it again. Plus that wasn't the only 1 girl I've seen that offers SP's that offer BBFS.

Alexis696969 said:
Listen up Newtohobby the majority of the people that perform bbfs are reg people that are dating or steady .....so just because one gal has a deathwish add for wanting hiv wanting to do lots of men shes like 1 in thousands that be so stupid and quite frankly ......theres never a garantee even when your married the other can cheat and bring you home an extra bonus .....i feel your tension maybe you just need to get laid already
 
newtohobby said:
As a matter of fact, I don't take part of any of these services. I'm not one willing to take the risk of catching something and spreading it on. This is how stds spread. If you catch and std and had a SO, would u feel good about spreading it to them? IMO, its not worth the risk. Not worried about being raped either but not sure what that has to do with this discussion. IF you don't think its a big deal about people having BBFS, then read this thread
Well good for you then.
So you have nothing to worry about.
So what is your problem then?

The point about you being raped is that if this is not your concern, what exactly is?
These risk takers are not going to infect you by breathing the same air.
 
newtohobby said:
I don't recall regular people , dating people offering services like BBFS. I thought they would just have unprotected sex. Never thought it's a service for 2 knowing people. For the cheating spouse, my point was if is was worth the risk of catching something and speading it again. Plus that wasn't the only 1 girl I've seen that offers SP's that offer BBFS.


regular people do have sex unprotected everyday ......more so then anyone who hobbys /sps

so what does your handle mean newtohobby ? does it mean your now a hobbyist ?
 
Malibook said:
Well so do I but they are all free consenting adults who can make their own decisions.

Ya you're correct. Why should you give a shit if they die:confused:
 
Alexis696969 said:
regular people do have sex unprotected everyday ......more so then anyone who hobbys /sps

so what does your handle mean newtohobby ? does it mean your now a hobbyist ?

People are becoming lax again about unprotected sex. STD's are rising in all sexual communities.

There appear to be a lot of uneducated people around. By the time they learn, it may be too late. Too bad!
 
sorely said:
People are becoming lax again about unprotected sex. STD's are rising in all sexual communities.

There appear to be a lot of uneducated people around. By the time they learn, it may be too late. Too bad!
Numerous people kill themselves (and others too) by smoking yet I don't see you preaching about the evils of smoking, or drinking, or .......:rolleyes:
 
Malibook said:
Of course I care if they die but I don't think I should be sticking my nosey opinionated face into their business.

Nor do I see the point of going on TERB and preaching about adultery and safer-sex.:rolleyes:

It looks like you have a lot to learn and hopefully you are openminded enough to read and think about what you have read.

I would give anybody advice if it would save their lives. With friends and other close associates I might ask that they really think about it or even more persuasive..

TERB is a forum dedicated to the commercial joys of sex. The risks associated with these joys are continually changing and the available information is ever expanding. It is a natural vehicle of communication.

Don't be afraid of knowledge. Embrace it. It will make your sex life a lot more enjoyable.