Dating Rant!

[MuffDiver]

Glad I got some insight into this person's character before I wasted my time and money. I think it is time I exclude dating profiles referencing "generous", "gifts", "shopping", "provider", etc. Basically any reference to materialistic things.

Matched with her online through a normal dating app (Hinge, if it matters). Connected well, exchanged messages for a few days, then agreed to meet Saturday. She passed my video call test to prove she is real and somewhat resembles her photos. All good - attractive to me and nice personality. We both love steak and my two favorites are Harbour 60 and Ruths Chris.

She suggested Ruths Chris and I was game. Pricey for a 1st date, but whatever. I had not splurged on myself in a month and thought it would be fun. I can afford it and I am not cheap - I don't throw money away, but I will spend for a good to great time.

Then today the bombshell drops when she asked what I am bringing her as a date gift!!!

I would normally bring something small, like a small box of homemade chocolates from my favorite family owned chocolatier, or a bottle of wine, or flowers. Whatever I can determine is a good fit. I've never had someone so bold to request a gift and ask outright what I would be bringing. Talk about a self entitled ****. I replied to her text with one that asked why a $500 dinner date was insufficient and told her to enjoy her Saturday night and thanked her for showing her true colors early.

Is this the new norm now, where women are submitting gift ideas for a date? Note, this is normal dating app where people are looking for relationships. It's not an escort site, not a SD/SB site, etc.

So now I will hopefully go to the GTA Saturday anyway, treat myself to a session with a new lady near the top of my wish list and then treat myself to a nice dinner and drinks after the deed. All in all, comparable cost and almost guaranteed to be a great night.

Any of you gents run into such self-entitlement on a 1st date?

 

[brian4hartley]

A ton of girls just live for those free dinners. I mean who doesn’t love steak!?

 

[NotADcotor]

A ton of girls just live for those free dinners. I mean who doesn’t love steak!?

I'd take a shot in the mouth if it would get me closer to some steak.

 

[dvous11]

A smoking hot dancer/actor I used to have in and out of my life used to call the dating sites/apps:
“freesteakdinner.com”
She would do shows all over Canada and would always line up her dinners on free nights.

 

[Butler1000]

Cripes its changed from when I was dating. A simple dinner at a local bistro, reasonably priced was just fine. Girls just appreciated being taken out and were in it to actually have a date, to talk, laugh, maybe add some spontaneity after.

Now its a job interview from what my single friends tell me, Seinfeldian in myopic criticism, with constant judgment.

No thanks.

 

[Mr.lover]

Lol yep, I remember a coworker who would have dates every night with a different guy or ones she only called on when she needed a free lunch or dinner. She was pretty, so guys were quick to try to impress. She bragged about it to her gf in the office lol.
If you were smart just chat them up, see if there chemistry or if she even tries, then for the in-person suggest coffee first, or for a few dates. Then dinner or lunch at a nice place, ask if she prefers to go Dutch so you don't want her to feel like you are trying to impress her lol. The true self shows up pretty quick after that.

 

[tastingyou]

Glad I got some insight into this person's character before I wasted my time and money. I think it is time I exclude dating profiles referencing "generous", "gifts", "shopping", "provider", etc. Basically any reference to materialistic things.

Matched with her online through a normal dating app (Hinge, if it matters). Connected well, exchanged messages for a few days, then agreed to meet Saturday. She passed my video call test to prove she is real and somewhat resembles her photos. All good - attractive tothe

She suggested Ruths Chris and I was game. Pricey for a 1st date, but whatever. I had not splurged on myself in a month and thought it would be fun. I can afford it and I am not cheap - I don't throw money away, but I will spend for a good to great time.

Then today the bombshell drops when she asked what I am bringing her as a date gift!!!

I would normally bring something small, like a small box of homemade chocolates from my favorite family owned chocolatier, or a bottle of wine, or flowers. Whatever I can determine is a good fit. I've never had someone so bold to request a gift and ask outright what I would be bringing. Talk about a self entitled ****. I replied to her text with one that asked why a $500 dinner date was insufficient and told her to enjoy her Saturday night and thanked her for showing her true colors early.

Is this the new norm now, where women are submitting gift ideas for a date? Note, this is normal dating app where people are looking for relationships. It's not an escort site, not a SD/SB site, etc.

So now I will hopefully go to the GTA Saturday anyway, treat myself to a session with a new lady near the top of my wish list and then treat myself to a nice dinner and drinks after the deed. All in all, comparable cost and almost guaranteed to be a great night.

Any of you gents run into such self-entitlement on a 1st date?

Good for you, blowing her off the way that you did. The chances of you missing out on a good relationship with her are virtually nil.

 

[angrymime666]

ya I dont do expensive 1st dates. why would I pay for someone I may not even like?

just like the ladies need to know us better before they have sex with us, I need to know her better before I cough up my hard earned money. she needs to prove to me that I am not a foodie call, that I enjoy her company and would like to have further dates with her and there is a legitimate mutual interest in learning more about each other.

 

[Jenesis]

I must be old school. I have never thought of getting a gift on first date. I would never ask for one. That is beyond rude.

 

[Insidious Von]

Your date sounded like a nil by mouth proposition...you should have taken her to Denny's.

Sorry, I'm not a fan of Ruths Chris, American corn fed beef pushes my nausea button. Also I find it insulting that the sides are ala carte. Nothing in North America matches Alberta oats fed beef, buy that for a lady and watch her eyes dilate. However I've only taken a few dates to La Castile.

Relationships are difficult.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V5wka-7UIEY

 

[SchlongConery]

A "date gift"?

NEVER in my life have I heard of such a thing.

Here is my take on this idea.

If you hold yourself out as being a provider of material benefits, then you immediately create the impression that you are not valuable on your own merits, and are effectively willing to pay for affection.

That's what this sp business is about. Not normal dating.

 

[squeezer]

. I replied to her text with one that asked why a $500 dinner date was insufficient and told her to enjoy her Saturday night and thanked her for showing her true colors early.

Good for you to call it off quickly. Just curious if she replied what was her comeback?

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Any of you gents run into such self-entitlement on a 1st date?


Met somebody in the personals. Unattractive auntie. Bitch of an attitude. To make small talk I asked her if she found this kind of dating was working for her. Her reply was " Sure. If the guy is a loser I still get a free meal out of it".
she is now the mother of my 5 children ....

 

[krealtarron]

WTF is a date gift? Must be a sugar baby posing as a regular girl looking for dates.

On a lighter note, you met her on Hinge. Of course she was Unhinged

 

[Mr Deeds]

You should have said I'll bring the gift if you'll pay for the hotel.

 

[Jenesis]

To be honest I am still floored by this.

I can’t handle entitled people and the entitlement on this one is just beyond.

I’m not the only one. My SIL is doing on a date tonight (I get along better with my SIL than my brother who she is not with anymore). She would NEVER ask for a gift and like me, it doesn’t even enter her mind to expect one.

Her “gift” was a guy who had the courage to ask her out directly. They met at yoga. Her “gift” was him offering his number instead of asking for her. Which she gave her right away. Her “gift” is him taking the lead and planning the date.

These were the green flags we were seeing from this new guy and what we/she was appreciating from him. The date could be a walk along the lake with hot chocolate and sitting one a blanket and chatting to get to know each other. She doesn’t care.

Let me just say guys. There are good ones out there. She is gorgeous. Has a great attitude, great job, great townhouse, great credit. Fun and down to earth. So they are out there. But get out of the dating apps. She refuses to use them. She wants to meet authentically like she did with this guy at yoga. Or like her last boyfriend at the truck shows.

So don’t give up hope OP!!! But maybe try other ways to meet ladies.

 

[krealtarron]

But get out of the dating apps. She refuses to use them. She wants to meet authentically like she did with this guy at yoga. Or like her last boyfriend at the truck shows.

So don’t give up hope OP!!! But maybe try other ways to meet ladies.

Dating apps have never worked for me. I find them toxic, time wasting and heck sometimes racist.

How can someone like you when they go purely by your looks and what you say on our profile? They dont have a chance to see you or talk to you or observe your body language, and those things are necessary to feel attracted imo. They also tell you to ask conversational questions based on someone's profile but often times those profiles have nothing in them, to start a conversation in the first place lol.

Every time I have gone out with a girl, it has always been through getting introduced in person at some event or activity or some such.

 

[poker]

Dating apps have never worked for me. I find them toxic, time wasting and heck sometimes racist.

How can someone like you when they go purely by your looks and what you say on our profile? They dont have a chance to see you or talk to you or observe your body language, and those things are necessary to feel attracted imo. They also tell you to ask conversational questions based on someone's profile but often times those profiles have nothing in them, to start a conversation in the first place lol.

Every time I have gone out with a girl, it has always been through getting introduced in person at some event or activity or some such.

Then have not worked well for me. The odd date…. One 8 month relationship to cutie who stayed on the App and kept looking…

However. Going on a first date tonight. Taking her to a Craft Brewery (is my plan so far) with decent dinner menu. I keep it light on first dates as I always cover the cheque… and in civie life, have no expectations of sex tonight.

 

[NotADcotor]

Any of you gents run into such self-entitlement on a 1st date?


Met somebody in the personals. Unattractive auntie. Bitch of an attitude. To make small talk I asked her if she found this kind of dating was working for her. Her reply was " Sure. If the guy is a loser I still get a free meal out of it".
she is now the mother of my 5 children ....

Better than my love story. I met a nice girl on line from Thailand. Love of my life, married, 5 wonderful years together than she up and died. I miss her terribly every day. I wish she never got testicular cancer. --- Jimmy Carr.

 

[Fun For All]

Your date sounded like a nil by mouth proposition...you should have taken her to Denny's.

Sorry, I'm not a fan of Ruths Chris, American corn fed beef pushes my nausea button. Also I find it insulting that the sides are ala carte. Nothing in North America matches Alberta oats fed beef, buy that for a lady and watch her eyes dilate. However I've only taken a few dates to La Castile.

Relationships are difficult.

Denny’s is good for breakfast…