Dating Rant!

[krealtarron]

Then have not worked well for me. The odd date…. One 8 month relationship to cutie who stayed on the App and kept looking…

However. Going on a first date tonight. Taking her to a Craft Brewery (is my plan so far) with decent dinner menu. I keep it light on first dates as I always cover the cheque… and in civie life, have no expectations of sex tonight.

Good luck! Hope it works out!

 

[MuffDiver]

Cripes its changed from when I was dating. A simple dinner at a local bistro, reasonably priced was just fine. Girls just appreciated being taken out and were in it to actually have a date, to talk, laugh, maybe add some spontaneity after.

Now its a job interview from what my single friends tell me, Seinfeldian in myopic criticism, with constant judgment.

No thanks.

Exactly. That is more what I am used to. Maybe $100 or $150 tops for dinner, drinks and good conversation. I don't even mind the questions as long as they are not along the lines of monetary things, like car, home, investments. Any reference to crypto is an instant mood killer. I have ZERO interest in discussing money with someone I just met.

Somewhere along the line, appreciation turned to entitlement with far too many. I'd estimate 90% of profiles on true dating sites are either fake, or the woman has an angle - shopping, gifts, can you help me with x, a free expensive meal, links to wishlists or OnlyFans, etc. Sure, women will complain guys are cheap and/or only want one thing, but there are exceptions. I am not cheap, but expect to be treated with the same respect I provide. If sex happens, I'll go with it, but I never look for it on the first date.

It's a cesspool at times, hence I date less here.

 

[MuffDiver]

A "date gift"?

NEVER in my life have I heard of such a thing.

Here is my take on this idea.

If you hold yourself out as being a provider of material benefits, then you immediately create the impression that you are not valuable on your own merits, and are effectively willing to pay for affection.

That's what this sp business is about. Not normal dating.

Exactly, hence my ending the conversation after I spoke my mind. A gift, however how small, is to be a pleasant surprise and appreciated. Not expected, or in this case, requested. SMFH.

I am nobody's bank.

 

[MuffDiver]

You should have said I'll bring the gift if you'll pay for the hotel.

Good one!

 

[MuffDiver]

Good for you to call it off quickly. Just curious if she replied what was her comeback?

Never gave her a chance to respond. I had nothing left to say and there was nothing she could say. I unmatched.

 

[MuffDiver]

Dating apps have never worked for me. I find them toxic, time wasting and heck sometimes racist.

How can someone like you when they go purely by your looks and what you say on our profile? They dont have a chance to see you or talk to you or observe your body language, and those things are necessary to feel attracted imo. They also tell you to ask conversational questions based on someone's profile but often times those profiles have nothing in them, to start a conversation in the first place lol.

Every time I have gone out with a girl, it has always been through getting introduced in person at some event or activity or some such.

So true re the racism. Even though I am Caucasian, if I read anything racist in their profile, I move on. Online is hard, but I travel a lot for work and work from home, so meeting people is a lot tougher. Bars do not work in my experience. I find I meet the most people on the road, hence having friends in various countries and cities.

My family is tiny, so that is not a viable source of new contacts either. All good though. I want someone. I do not need someone. Plus I am divorced with 0 commitments besides my career and to myself. I know what it is like to be unhappily married, so no rush to make that mistake again.

 

[IM469]

Matched with her online through a normal dating app
...
She suggested Ruths Chris
...

Then today the bombshell drops when she asked what I am bringing her as a date gift!!!

Are you sure you didn't actually use an SP agency app ?

I think an appropriate counter offer would be :

How about a McDonald's big Mac and your choice of any of their delicious dessert menu items ?

 

[SchlongConery]

Are you sure you didn't actually use an SP agency app ?

I think an appropriate counter offer would be :

How about a McDonald's big Mac and your choice of any of their delicious dessert menu items ?

More like the toy from the kids meal!

 

[kherg007]

You should have said:
Oh, uh, there won't be any date gift tonight, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So you'll have that goin' for you, which is nice.

 

[Captain Bly]

When I was a “lad” I met gals at dances, parties , church and school. You walked her home and then asked if you could see her again. Roughly 50% success rate and normally took her to the cinema!

How times have changed, and not apparently for the better!

 

[krealtarron]

You should have said:
Oh, uh, there won't be any date gift tonight, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So you'll have that goin' for you, which is nice.

Now that is going to get the cops called on you

 

[johnd5050]

WTF is a date gift?

A "date gift"?

NEVER in my life have I heard of such a thing.

Here is my take on this idea.

If you hold yourself out as being a provider of material benefits, then you immediately create the impression that you are not valuable on your own merits, and are effectively willing to pay for affection.

That's what this sp business is about. Not normal dating.

One gold digger asked me if I was getting her a "gift date" for the next date.
I said yes a box of condoms. Lets meet at 7:30 pm at ...... She stood me down and never heard from her again.

 

[Bushdoc]

I think it is time I exclude dating profiles referencing "generous", "gifts", "shopping", "provider", etc.

Yes, absolutely. Those should be red flags unless you're into being a "sugar daddy". It's possible to find awesome, down-to-earth people on dating apps. But not if their profile says stuff like that.