Dating a MPA

You say you are not judgmental but are judging me by saying if I had to do it again it speaks volumes... Lol

It will NEVER be perfect, no matter how many times you do it over again or if you meet the love of your life, your soulmate. It is what you make of it, simple as pie. All relationships go through ups and downs. I don't jump ship and seek to end it once I find another safe heaven. I am not perfect whatever perfect is defined. So what I get my kicks with an MPA and my SO may get her kicks or have a fling or two. We still come back and try to make it work, then the next day we call each other the worst names, and the following day make the best love. It is the dynamic of life and no matter how experienced you think you are or you think you been through it all, life will always be steps ahead of you. Just make the best of what you have and deal with yours and her flaws.

sounds perfect to me, as long as both parties are aware... it's all good. pull one out of the loop and well, you understand.

Here ya go
 
Awesome as a side chick, terrible idea as a committed gf. Remember this: she's taking the most intimate of human experiences and making it a commodity.. It will eat away at you.

Girls get possessive to, ask her if she minds you going to see other MPAs while she's committed to you.

Anyway, we know you won't listen to those of us that say "don't do it" so come back in a year and tell us how it worked out. Best of luck!
 
Awesome as a side chick, terrible idea as a committed gf. Remember this: she's taking the most intimate of human experiences and making it a commodity.. It will eat away at you.

Girls get possessive to, ask her if she minds you going to see other MPAs while she's committed to you.

Anyway, we know you won't listen to those of us that say "don't do it" so come back in a year and tell us how it worked out. Best of luck!

Wow man, you said it exactly as it is!
 
Id have no problem if it was a lightweight relationship..Ive met some very down to earth / cool SP's in my time...1 or 2 I could totally hang out with and make a possible relationship out of..

Now if we are talking serious girlfriend..I'm commited to her, then I don't care about her past but I not sure I could live with her continuing on in the business :(
 
Girls get possessive to, ask her if she minds you going to see other MPAs while she's committed to you.

Are you saying her not wanting you to see other MPAs is hypocritical because of her job? I don't see it that way at all. It'd be different if you weren't dating. But if you're dating, why shouldn't she expect that without having to give up her livelihood?

It's exactly as you said. She took something intimate and made it a commodity. If it's a commodity, it has little real meaning. So long as you find meaning in your relationship with her outside that, where's the problem?

I'll tell you where it is. It's in not being able to find that meaning outside intimacy or not being able to see her job as merely a job.
 
I know of several MPA's who have retired and married a customer. The ones that I know are still married and seem to be happy. I couldn't tell you what the guy thinks about, but in all cases the girls had retired once the relationship was serious.

I currently know 3 MPA's that are married and based on their mileage I could not envision being their husband. It really depends on you and what you can handle.

You know yourself best. But, don't forget, once the girls leave the spa, they are civilians. Treat them as such. You will come across all kinds of people in life. Some are worth your time, and some aren't, regardless of their occupation.


Guys

I'm interested in hearing your opinions on this one.

If you were single and so was the MPA would you go out on a date with her that could lead to a potential relationship? If not, why and also could you date her knowing what she did for a living or would you insist she quit the biz before you could get serious enough for you to become bf/gf?

Do you think that most MPA's would prefer a guy who a) does not know what she does for a living and therefore is none the wiser, b) a guy that knows what she is doing (because he met her at a MP) and is fine with it (he trusts her) or c) knows what she does for a living and insists she changes occupations and becomes a "civilian" before they take it any further.

Thanks for your thoughts and opinions and please tell me if anyone has had this situation happen to them personally.

Cheers - Chongqing
 
I know of several MPA's who have retired and married a customer. The ones that I know are still married and seem to be happy. I couldn't tell you what the guy thinks about, but in all cases the girls had retired once the relationship was serious.

I currently know 3 MPA's that are married and based on their mileage I could not envision being their husband. It really depends on you and what you can handle.

You know yourself best. But, don't forget, once the girls leave the spa, they are civilians. Treat them as such. You will come across all kinds of people in life. Some are worth your time, and some aren't, regardless of their occupation.

:thumb:

true dat.

Actually TREAT EVERYONE WELL unless they have shown you why they don't deserve it. I have very seldom had the thought that the person that stood in front of me deserved less, when that rare occasion reared its ugly head.... it wasn't pretty, guess it is just the charming and lovable Aries in me.
 
Look odds are it will end badly.

From your end you might get jealous.

She might not trust you because she know you hobby.

If you aren't dating in the normal world is it because you are too busy or have other relationship issues.

From her end she is making crazy money and sees the best and worst in men.

Tell me that this isn't a recipe for disaster.

But at the end of the day do what you have to do.

If one of my all time favorites professed her love to me i prob would have given it a shot.

Hey at one point the divorce rate was 50% so it is not like the rest of thd world is doing great.
 
I know of several MPA's who have retired and married a customer. The ones that I know are still married and seem to be happy. I couldn't tell you what the guy thinks about, but in all cases the girls had retired once the relationship was serious.

I currently know 3 MPA's that are married and based on their mileage I could not envision being their husband. It really depends on you and what you can handle.

You visit MP's enough to gather that amount of information on their personal lives ? My sessions (not that numerous) are on the clock so there is little time during clean up at the end of the session to start an in depth conversion on their personal life. Short of our naked performance there seems little time for me to establish enough of a personal connection to desire an off prem date.

I have dated a lot of dancers over the years but usually we have the time over drinks to gain an insight to our personality and interests.
 
You visit MP's enough to gather that amount of information on their personal lives ? My sessions (not that numerous) are on the clock so there is little time during clean up at the end of the session to start an in depth conversion on their personal life. Short of our naked performance there seems little time for me to establish enough of a personal connection to desire an off prem date.

I have dated a lot of dancers over the years but usually we have the time over drinks to gain an insight to our personality and interests.

Lol paying her to tell you her life story. BAD SIGN
 
Awesome as a side chick, terrible idea as a committed gf. Remember this: she's taking the most intimate of human experiences and making it a commodity.. It will eat away at you.

Girls get possessive to, ask her if she minds you going to see other MPAs while she's committed to you.

Anyway, we know you won't listen to those of us that say "don't do it" so come back in a year and tell us how it worked out. Best of luck!


Absolutely!
 
Since I have started participating in this industry I have never heard of anybody speak the truth the way you do. Back in 2009/2010 the first post I posted is "MPA keeps a good man good". Even though chances are pretty slim we will ever meet, I hear every word you lay down here has so much meaning and is real.

I know its easy to lump all the clients together and all, but I really appreciate what women like you do for us.

Even though I say it jokingly, I am blown away at your message. I am not sucking up, I mean it, that stuff is real, and a lot of it I can't put down in words the way you just did.

I hope you keep contributing on here and hope you don't let the negative nancies get to you.

Cheers!

From doctors to diplomats...the world over...every man from every walk of life come to see us women...why? Because their wives and girlfriends don't get them..and they don't give two shits to even bother anymore the way they used to...they were playing their games..trying to get what they want...that's the reality.


I've sat with a regular of mine who is a diplomat...highly stressed...everyone kisses his ass...he hates his life...his wife is a bitch. ... he wants to have drinks and talk..

.My job is to listen..


I express empathy...but i don't kiss his ass. I will say things to him he longs to hear because I can predict his thoughts based off his feeling and what he says. He listens...he laughs...he forgets his personal reality for awhile..he is getting someone who understands him. He appreciates that.

He is on a mental vacation for 90 mins...he's paying for a good time..and he's paying to forget.

An escape from the real world in which we all live in and don't want to be in sometimes.
And that's how it is.

We are your go to when life gets too hard to bear sometimes. Why not go to his wife? Why me?

We massage each other. ..have some drinks ...laugh after the complaining is finished..smoke a cigarette or two and he's out the door, only to come again when he is ready.
He leaves
REHABILITATED

Yes...we are definitely the glue that holds our society together...
If only you knew ...the reasons vary from one man to another.
We are not fuck toys ...we are psychologists providing therapy. ..we are your friends and confidants when you can't even talk to your own wife. We are your shoulder when you need one, and we do the best we can to accomodate your every desire.
Men arent easy...they are emotional creatures and have feelings...Alot of women don't get that.

Experience shows me nobody is happy...everyone wishes for something else....routine gets boring...wives get old. Everything in life gets old.

This escape is all there is and to provide a quality escape you need to be a quality provider.
It takes guts to do this it's not easy..some days I find myself thinking I wish I had someone to treat me this way...what a treat that would be...
Imagine giving giving giving and seldom getting.

Where do us sps and mps go for release?
We have no one. Our lives are so discreet. Such as the individual who works as a spy. It's a lonely life sometimes and it's not for the weak of heart.

Crazy women are not strong. They are weak minded,Co dependent and highly insecure.

Us women who chose this field knew the pros and cons before getting into this profession.

We gave up love and the white picket fence for monetary gain.
We make our own white picket fence. We spend lots of time alone.
We have become good liars so those close to us don't find out what we do. We work hard...trust me on that. This job has become our life.
And a new life of our choosing cannot begin until we are finished with this one. Some are stronger and more resilient then others and some fall prey to drugs and alcohol in order to cope with the choices made. Your either in it to win it or your a lost cause.
Know the difference ...

So to date an sp or MPA you need to be a little more understanding and empathetic instead of just throwing accusations and assumptions around because really...we are the most sane...
 
I have steady group of regulars that I see on a rotating basis over years of hobbying. I have known some of these girls for more than 5 years. I usually book 1 hour appointments and do meet outside of work for the occasional lunch or coffee. What can I say. I'm a good listener. We have built up a comfort level. Like I said before. I treat all MPA's I see with respect. Sometimes a friendship builds.

You visit MP's enough to gather that amount of information on their personal lives ? My sessions (not that numerous) are on the clock so there is little time during clean up at the end of the session to start an in depth conversion on their personal life. Short of our naked performance there seems little time for me to establish enough of a personal connection to desire an off prem date.

I have dated a lot of dancers over the years but usually we have the time over drinks to gain an insight to our personality and interests.
 
In regards to damaged/broken/fucks up women....


The women who are damaged and have in someway managed to damage your ego
Are the ones sleeping next to you night after night...
The ones who wait for their man to come home with the paycheck and never bother to suck their man off.
The ones who go through your phones when your in the shower because they have that 6th sense you are off getting your rocks off elsewhere because she knows she doesn't touch you...
And instead of keeping the spice alive between the happily married couple she becomes lazy, selfish, and stuck in her ways....gains weight because she is happy living this way??? Or perhaps stops giving a shit about how she looks for you because she thinks she doesn't have to try anymore....(self centered thinking) she got what she wanted out of you...
This is damaging to ones relationship and self esteem. And who damages any kind of relationship? Why it's a damaged individual....

So she sits at her office job telling everyone how great things are on the homestead and what vacation she just back from with her wonderful s.o.

Horseshit....
Who's living A lie.
Who's the one with real issues.

.....
And this is when my phone $tart$ ringing...:) :) :)

I am merely a therapist providing services that you no longer get from your happily ever after ....

And if that makes us women in this field damaged as you say....then whatever.
It's probably best not to be with someone with your type of outlook anyway.

Do you ever work in Toronto?
 
I would like to chip in here, if I may.

The problem as I see it is that both client and MPA are trapped in somewhat addictive behaviours, which, in both cases, require both them and their partner to change.

The MPA...

Is now totally financially independent. So she will almost certainly lose that unless she marries a very rich guy who maintains her in style. The previous income will in all likelihood be unattainable now. Some might be able to do that, but its hard. I've read lots of articles about how extremely hard it is to leave. And rich guys have a lot of choices, and may very well prefer a woman with a less sullied past. So she has to give up her addiction to the great, easy money. She is also constantly getting all kinds of guys reaffirming to her how great she is, blah blah blah - that won't happen forever with Mr. Permanent. After the first fight, deep inside, she might be thinking, wow, I never had guys acting this way to me at the SPA. And she can go back in a heartbeat.

So she has to go from financial independence to dependence, from constant adulation to a normal relationship. She has generally been the queen in her relationships, and that will likely change to something more equitable.

The guy - he has to go from a totally unconstrained sex life to monogamy. We all know how hard that is.

Addicted to the money, and addicted to the easy sex.
 
Stereotyping




AGAIN...STEREOTYPING.
That's like me saying I'm not going to date a guy who owns a black car because most guys that own black cars are cheaters.




Again....stereotyping.

So everyone who works in the sex trade business is a drama queen.
??
It's easy to paint everyone with the same brush I suppose.





So if you date a sex worker that means they want to lose control because.the sex workers are irresponsible in.their day to day lives???

Most responsible women in this field put their hours in just like you do....except we make more money...have more leftover in the bank after paying bills ect... the responsible ones who know this thing invest in rsps...save for retirement. ...school...homeownership...nice cars....

Just like you...

Not drugs...
Not partying....
Not what you assume is losing control....
I'll give you the befit of the doubt....maybe your.thinking about 18 yr Olds in this biz.

I would say generalizing as opposed to stereotyping. What I was referring specifically to was a type of post you often see in this forum, a married guy with kids who falls for an mpa, the attraction seems to be mutual, they embark on an affair and the guy eventually snaps out of it when he realizes he's risking a lot for a girl who is unattainable. In other words: the guy risks losing control of his life. Obviously the same thing could happen with a civilian girl, but, as you say, mpa's are usually exceptional in a lot of ways, so the pull is greater. Another factor is the fact that this hobby often attracts emotionally immature men, as many posts in this forum will attest to. These guys are out of their depth with most mpa's who are more experienced (jaded?) than they are, so it's an unequal relationship from the start, which is always bad.
 
I'm a good listener. We have built up a comfort level. Like I said before. I treat all MPA's I see with respect.

I treat all mpa's as I do everyone - with respect. In my 35-40 minute sessions being a good listener doesn't get you there - mind reader might. You can discuss personal issues which in meaningful would be 5 - 10 minutes I don't have. That would be time you are paying for and I won't. (Not a criticism - just my reality)
 
I would like to chip in here, if I may.

The problem as I see it is that both client and MPA are trapped in somewhat addictive behaviours, which, in both cases, require both them and their partner to change.

The MPA...

Is now totally financially independent. So she will almost certainly lose that unless she marries a very rich guy who maintains her in style. The previous income will in all likelihood be unattainable now. Some might be able to do that, but its hard. I've read lots of articles about how extremely hard it is to leave. And rich guys have a lot of choices, and may very well prefer a woman with a less sullied past. So she has to give up her addiction to the great, easy money. She is also constantly getting all kinds of guys reaffirming to her how great she is, blah blah blah - that won't happen forever with Mr. Permanent. After the first fight, deep inside, she might be thinking, wow, I never had guys acting this way to me at the SPA. And she can go back in a heartbeat.

So she has to go from financial independence to dependence, from constant adulation to a normal relationship. She has generally been the queen in her relationships, and that will likely change to something more equitable.

The guy - he has to go from a totally unconstrained sex life to monogamy. We all know how hard that is.

Addicted to the money, and addicted to the easy sex.

I would say generalizing as opposed to stereotyping. What I was referring specifically to was a type of post you often see in this forum, a married guy with kids who falls for an mpa, the attraction seems to be mutual, they embark on an affair and the guy eventually snaps out of it when he realizes he's risking a lot for a girl who is unattainable. In other words: the guy risks losing control of his life. Obviously the same thing could happen with a civilian girl, but, as you say, mpa's are usually exceptional in a lot of ways, so the pull is greater. Another factor is the fact that this hobby often attracts emotionally immature men, as many posts in this forum will attest to. These guys are out of their depth with most mpa's who are more experienced (jaded?) than they are, so it's an unequal relationship from the start, which is always bad.



Both good reality check points here.

I think an older guy who might get sick of the hobby and the expense can settle for an MPA that he adores and treats right.

If she's used to a lifestyle and doesn't want kids, it may cost him more to support her, but they both will have more time to do things together.

She has to be tired of varying customers too, but if she likes all her regulars, there might be less incentive to settle down.

So there are some MPAs who might settle for a guy they like if he's cool with her work, until she retires.
 
Look odds are it will end badly.

From your end you might get jealous.

She might not trust you because she know you hobby.

If you aren't dating in the normal world is it because you are too busy or have other relationship issues.

From her end she is making crazy money and sees the best and worst in men.

Tell me that this isn't a recipe for disaster.

But at the end of the day do what you have to do.

If one of my all time favorites professed her love to me i prob would have given it a shot.

Hey at one point the divorce rate was 50% so it is not like the rest of thd world is doing great.


Another reason why someone here might not be dating much in the real world is that we're older and that there's a lack of opportunity to meet eligible women.

Also, hobbyists might be spoiled in that their urges will be satisfied without having to go through the trials and tribulations of dating.
 
I am amazed at the judgemental attitudes of some of the hobbyists here! WTF...I know lots of amazing women who work in the industry and I also know of several SPs and MPAs who have long-term relationships with clients, some are even married to them. But, in all but one case I know of, the SP or MPA quit the business once the relationship got serious and presumably, um...possibly, hopefully, the hobbyist quit hobbying. ;)