Danielle Smith turns her back on Canada...

nottyboi

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there wre 4 privately funded pipelines ready to go when the moron came to power
he killed three and overpaid for the fourth because he had painted himself into a corner
like all things govt, a 4.5B pipeline turned into a 34 B taxpayer money pit

any you think this is an accomplishment
every thing he touches turns to shit, really expensive shit

energy east would have given Canada leverage over Trump
The moron killed that
he is unbelievably stupid
Yeah Northern Gateway, lets load tankers with Tar and sail them on the coast of Nothern BC. 1 tanker accident and you wipe out the livelihoods of tens of thousands of indiginous people. Would Alberta accept the UNLIMITED LIABILITY for cleanup? Of course not. They don't even clean up their own abandoned wells that are spewing poison into the air. Good ol Uncle Trudooo had to pay for it. 🤣 Maybe it was a way to keep more money in AB and get some Fed transfers. Poison the people so that the Liberal twit that is dumb enough to care about people and the environement will charge in and send AB billions. 🤔 Well played!! INGENIOUS!!!
 
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you have no idea what you are taking about
again
https://www.rmoutlook.com/beyond-lo...l-a-challenge-in-northeastern-alberta-9739626

yeah every kid grows up dreaming of working in the freezing cold in a dangerous job full of toxic fumes in the middle of BUTTFUCK AB. 🤣👌 I hear even Elon Musk wanted to be a oil rig worker, but when his dreams were shattered in a bust, he went on and started Paypal 🤣😀😂 then he felt soo bitter about his stolen dreams of being an oil worker he started Tesla just to wipe out the oil industry so no more young men would face the disappointment he did.... THE END 😇
 
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Man you are not too bright, why would you need new pipelines? The reserve locations can be selected along existing pipes. Maybe they can even use the 1.2B pipe to nowhere in AB. Oilsands is hardly ready to use oil, and there is no guarantee that they can operate in an emergency.
speaking of not too bright
energy east was going to be required to provide eastern Canada with Western crude oil
so obviously the pipeline infrastructure is not in place for your silly assed "Strategic Oil Reserve"
god you are dense

and again, we already have a "Strategic Oil Reserve" its called the Canadian oil sands- the 3rd largest reserve in the world
but you get all excited about spend about your silly assed plans to spend other peoples money

you really do not have a clue what you talk about


As for EVs, they won't need tax incentives soon. Battery prices are plunging and they are much easier to build then ICE cars. As of now they are already at aboutthe same cost and battery prices are expected to drop another 50% in 2 years,.... GAME OVER FOR ICE. Also in China they have deployed 600KW charging That is the same rate as a gas pump GAME OVER.
more bullshit that follows the same bullshit that was used trying to promote wind and solar as an easy substitute for fossil fuels . that game is over
as predicted

30 years ago FF represented 82 % of world energy consumption, now FF are 80-81%
30 years of failed predictions and a trillion of govt money down the drain

EVS sales are going to max out below 20% market penetration
Trump is going to kill the credits & the mandates
The auto dealers are already complaining they can't sell EVs

you promote bullshit unrealistic fantasies
 
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speaking of not too bright
energy east was going to be required to provide eastern Canada with Western crude oil
so obviously the pipeline infrastructure is not in place for your silly assed "Strategic Oil Reserve"
god you are dense

and again, we already have a "Strategic Oil Reserve" its called the Canadian oil sands- the 3rd largest reserve in the world
but you get all excited about spend about your silly assed plans to spend other peoples money

you really do not have a clue what you talk about



more bullshit that follows the same bullshit that was used trying to promote wind and solar as an easy substitute for fossil fuels . that game is over
as predicted

30 years ago FF represented 82 % of world energy consumption, now FF are 80-81%
30 years of failed predictions and a trillion of govt money down the drain

EVS sales are going to max out below 20% market penetration
Trump is going to kill the credits & the mandates
The auto dealers are already complaining they can't sell EVs

you promote bullshit unrealistic fantasies
Well maybe its a good reason to build Energy east as well, but oil can also move by rail and part of the reseve can be built in the east and loaded by rail... any other dumb assed questions?

Even if people don't buy EVs they will buy PHEVS and PHEVS will allow most people to reduce their oil consumption by 80-90%
 
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Yeah Northern Gateway, lets load tankers with Tar and sail them on the coast of Nothern BC. 1 tanker accident and you wipe out the livelihoods of tens of thousands of indiginous people. Would Alberta accept the UNLIMITED LIABILITY for cleanup? Of course not. They don't even clean up their own abandoned wells that are spewing poison into the air. Good ol Uncle Trudooo had to pay for it. 🤣 Maybe it was a way to keep more money in AB and get some Fed transfers. Poison the people so that the Liberal twit that is dumb enough to care about people and the environement will charge in and send AB billions. 🤔 Well played!! INGENIOUS!!!
meanwhile you wanted to transport 100 MM barrels thousands of kilometers across the country to a completely redundant "Strategic Oil Reserve"
you did give a shit about indigenous folk then and you do not give a shit about them now

the odd thing about the loonie left is if you let them blither enough they will expose their own hypocrisy
and boy o boy, you do blither

clown show
 
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Well maybe its a good reason to build Energy east as well, but oil can also move by rail and part of the reseve can be built in the east and loaded by rail... any other dumb assed questions?
lets load tankers rail cars with Tar and sail drive them on the coast of Nothern BC . all over the country . 1 tanker accident and you wipe out the livelihoods of tens of thousands of indiginous people. Would Alberta Nottboi accept the UNLIMITED LIABILITY for cleanup?

you are you own worse enemy
clown
 
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Well maybe its a good reason to build Energy east as well, but oil can also move by rail and part of the reseve can be built in the east and loaded by rail... any other dumb assed questions?

Even if people don't buy EVs they will buy PHEVS and PHEVS will allow most people to reduce their oil consumption by 80-90%

clown
 
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speaking of not too bright
energy east was going to be required to provide eastern Canada with Western crude oil
so obviously the pipeline infrastructure is not in place for your silly assed "Strategic Oil Reserve"
god you are dense

and again, we already have a "Strategic Oil Reserve" its called the Canadian oil sands- the 3rd largest reserve in the world
but you get all excited about spend about your silly assed plans to spend other peoples money

you really do not have a clue what you talk about



more bullshit that follows the same bullshit that was used trying to promote wind and solar as an easy substitute for fossil fuels . that game is over
as predicted

30 years ago FF represented 82 % of world energy consumption, now FF are 80-81%
30 years of failed predictions and a trillion of govt money down the drain

EVS sales are going to max out below 20% market penetration
Trump is going to kill the credits & the mandates
The auto dealers are already complaining they can't sell EVs

you promote bullshit unrealistic fantasies
meanwhile you wanted to transport 100 MM barrels thousands of kilometers across the country to a completely redundant "Strategic Oil Reserve"
you did give a shit about indigenous folk then and you do not give a shit about them now

the odd thing about the loonie left is if you let them blither enough they will expose their own hypocrisy
and boy o boy, you do blither

clown show

The oil is already moving 7x24x356. Are you drunk? you seem even more confused then normal. Any moron knows a land oil spill is typically less harmful then a sea oil spill and much easiler to remediate. Of course rivers and lakes can be problematic. Also pipelines are monitored and can be isolated when thet leak. Tankers well, there is often no mitigation in an accident on the open seas. Filling of the reserve if done by rail, will be a slow process and not many movements of the oil will happen.
 
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The oil is already moving 7x24x356. Are you drunk? you seem even more confused then normal. Any moron knows a land oil spill is typically less harmful then a sea oil spill and much easiler to remediate. Of course rivers and lakes can be problematic. Also pipelines are monitored and can be isolated when thet leak. Tankers well, there is often no mitigation in an accident on the open seas.
lets load tankers rail cars with Tar and sail drive them on the coast of Nothern BC . all over the country . 1 tanker accident and you wipe out the livelihoods of tens of thousands of indiginous people. Would Alberta Nottboi accept the UNLIMITED LIABILITY for cleanup?

you contradicted yourself inside of 10 minutes
you have the same MO as Frankfooter, just blither away and hope something sticks , never really thinking about what you post

the never ending clown show that is nottyboi
 
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lets load tankers rail cars with Tar and sail drive them on the coast of Nothern BC . all over the country . 1 tanker accident and you wipe out the livelihoods of tens of thousands of indiginous people. Would Alberta Nottboi accept the UNLIMITED LIABILITY for cleanup?

you contradicted yourself inside of 10 minutes
you have the same MO as Frankfooter, just blither away and hope something sticks , never really thinking about what you post

the never ending clown show that is nottyboi
Railcars are already moving, the fact that you don't understand the risk of railcars vs tankers just shows how clueless you are. High cost train accidents are quite rare, the worst oil related one in Lac Megantic was contained while the others were almost inconsequential. Since then railcars have been improved and laws enacted to limit how much oil a train can carry. As it stands about 120K bbls of oil move by rail in Canada each day so filling the eastern reserve would not be a significant increase traffic nor would it create and existential risk to any communities.
 

nottyboi

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lets load tankers rail cars with Tar and sail drive them on the coast of Nothern BC . all over the country . 1 tanker accident and you wipe out the livelihoods of tens of thousands of indiginous people. Would Alberta Nottboi accept the UNLIMITED LIABILITY for cleanup?

you contradicted yourself inside of 10 minutes
you have the same MO as Frankfooter, just blither away and hope something sticks , never really thinking about what you post

the never ending clown show that is nottyboi

How can you blame Trudeau for cancelling energy east? :
TransCanada Pipelines filed its formal project application with the National Energy Board. At the same time a number of groups announced their intention to oppose the pipeline.[2] The project was cancelled on October 5, 2017 by TransCanada.[3]
 

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Yet I'm willing to be they will still receive tax incentives. Embedded interests and all that....
Well oil companies receive tax incentives don't they? There are many reasons to give EVs tax incentives, one being that with 2 way charge ports they can be used to stabilize the power grid.
 

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CRAZY how "dirty Alberta oil" all of a sudden became "Canadian energy" huh? :ROFLMAO:
Look, the competitors to Canada are trying lock out Canadian oil from their markets. Oil is oil and to me Oilsands is far less damaging then fracked shale oil. But lets not kid anyone, its very energy intensive to extract. And heavy crude when spilled into the sea is very persistant and damaging. Does it make sense to burn all that LNG to extract bitumin? Or better to export the gas as LNG? I don'yt know the answer. I think maybe if they can do it with diluents that would make more sense.
 

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Look, the competitors to Canada are trying lock out Canadian oil from their markets. Oil is oil and to me Oilsands is far less damaging then fracked shale oil. But lets not kid anyone, its very energy intensive to extract. And heavy crude when spilled into the sea is very persistant and damaging. Does it make sense to burn all that LNG to extract bitumin? Or better to export the gas as LNG? I don'yt know the answer. I think maybe if they can do it with diluents that would make more sense.
In 2023, Canada exported $124-billion of oil. $124-billion. Ninety-seven per cent of it went to the United States. Nearly all of it came from Alberta.

That amount contributes a good amount to the tax base which helps funds healthcare, defence..and so on and so on..
 
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