Damn the curse of the Bambino
- Thread starter bbradk
- Start date
It wasn't the curse that got the red sox - it was the stupidity of Grady Little.
Pedro pitched a great game for 7 innings. Why put him back in the 8th when he was hit hard at the end of the 7th especially when your bull pen has a 1.17 ERA throughtout the series and the 2 pitchers warming up, Timlin and Embree both have ERA's of zero for the series.
All Grady had to do was send Timlin in as the set up man and then bring in the closer - game over.
And the fact that in the 8th inning, Pedro was hit hard 3 times straight with runners on 3rd and 2nd - and Grady still lets Pedro pitch is ridiculous
I mean we all thought Pedro's night was done at the end of the 7th after we saw him hug Nomar in the dugout
Pedro pitched a great game for 7 innings. Why put him back in the 8th when he was hit hard at the end of the 7th especially when your bull pen has a 1.17 ERA throughtout the series and the 2 pitchers warming up, Timlin and Embree both have ERA's of zero for the series.
All Grady had to do was send Timlin in as the set up man and then bring in the closer - game over.
And the fact that in the 8th inning, Pedro was hit hard 3 times straight with runners on 3rd and 2nd - and Grady still lets Pedro pitch is ridiculous
I mean we all thought Pedro's night was done at the end of the 7th after we saw him hug Nomar in the dugout
GO YANKEES!!!! WOOHOO!!!!
There are very few teams that I truly hate, but the Red Sox are on of them. Although in this case I am a diehard lifetime Yankees fan, if it were any other opponent I would want them to win, simply so that the Sox would lose.
In this latest example of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, Grady "i cant believe someone actually gave me a major leage managers job" Little left Pedro in far past his limit of 90-100 pitches. Wrong Hole is absolutely correct in his analysis.
I feel sorry for Cubs fans, but in the case of the Red Sox, I could not be more pleased with such a heartbreaking down-to-the-wire loss, especially since they have no one to blame but their own stupidity.
GO YANKEES!!!!
There are very few teams that I truly hate, but the Red Sox are on of them. Although in this case I am a diehard lifetime Yankees fan, if it were any other opponent I would want them to win, simply so that the Sox would lose.
In this latest example of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, Grady "i cant believe someone actually gave me a major leage managers job" Little left Pedro in far past his limit of 90-100 pitches. Wrong Hole is absolutely correct in his analysis.
I feel sorry for Cubs fans, but in the case of the Red Sox, I could not be more pleased with such a heartbreaking down-to-the-wire loss, especially since they have no one to blame but their own stupidity.
GO YANKEES!!!!
Grady Little? I liked him better when he was called Forrest Gump.
Nothing more satisfying than watching those two PUNKS(!) Manny Ramirez and Pedro Martinez skulk back to their locker room with their tails between their legs. Those classless bums don't deserve to play in the World Series.
Justice has been served.
Nothing more satisfying than watching those two PUNKS(!) Manny Ramirez and Pedro Martinez skulk back to their locker room with their tails between their legs. Those classless bums don't deserve to play in the World Series.
Justice has been served.
S
Samantha Jones
It was one of the best games I've seen in a while. Was also shaking my head at Little leaving Pedro in.
I imagine Wells wasnt feeling too proud of himself either.
Now the Yankees HAVE to win the Series. Any bets as to how many games?
I imagine Wells wasnt feeling too proud of himself either.
Now the Yankees HAVE to win the Series. Any bets as to how many games?
Sam.... wanna make a bet? ;-)
I say Yankees in 6 games. Thanks to the Rangers' Hank Blalock hitting the game winning home run in the All-Star game, the AL has home field advantage in the series.
The only problem might be NY setting up its rotation since they used Clemens, Mussina and Wells last night (albeit sparingly for each of them).
Pettite in game 1, Mussina in 2, Clemens in 3, Wells in 4.
I say Yankees in 6 games. Thanks to the Rangers' Hank Blalock hitting the game winning home run in the All-Star game, the AL has home field advantage in the series.
The only problem might be NY setting up its rotation since they used Clemens, Mussina and Wells last night (albeit sparingly for each of them).
Pettite in game 1, Mussina in 2, Clemens in 3, Wells in 4.
Just felt bad for the fans in Boston.
I just got back from there, and that city wanted a win soooo bad.
Very passionate aboiut their Sox (kind of like we were with the Jays 10 years ago )
I just got back from there, and that city wanted a win soooo bad.
Very passionate aboiut their Sox (kind of like we were with the Jays 10 years ago )
Wells in the first game. It's already been announced. Pettitte needs at least one more day and Mussina threw 3 last night while Wells threw only one.
Clements in game 4.
Clements in game 4.
I don't really believe in magic and stuff like that but the Cubs and Red Sox make me wonder if curses really exist. I heard so much talk about a possible Cubs and Sox world series and in the end neither team made it!
I hope Florida beats the Yanks some how!
I hope Florida beats the Yanks some how!
how can you not hate the Yankees? Do you not get sick of them winning all the time? They always buy whatever pieces they're missing and it was refreshing when Arizona beat them in 2001, and when Anaheim ripped them last year...before I get ripped for my Yankee bashing, they probably have one of the best minor league systems out there...I mean Rivera, Posada, Soriano, Jeter, Williams, Pettite....but it irks me that buy all the other pieces to their puzzle every year, the Yankees are the one team I truly do hate, and yes the Red Sox have bought more of their team than the Yankees but I just hate Yankees so much.....
as for the World Series, I dont care to watch it but I can see the Marlins winning....they have confidence, they arent as emotinally drained, they are young and exuberant and that franchise has never lost a post season series. They have speed at the top, and solid hitting through the lineup. There weakness however which may be exposed is the starting pitching...other than Beckett, the starters have been iffy, Dontrelle's been getting rocked and Penny and Redman arent exactly household names.
My prediction, if Florida gets good starts, they will win it!
as for the World Series, I dont care to watch it but I can see the Marlins winning....they have confidence, they arent as emotinally drained, they are young and exuberant and that franchise has never lost a post season series. They have speed at the top, and solid hitting through the lineup. There weakness however which may be exposed is the starting pitching...other than Beckett, the starters have been iffy, Dontrelle's been getting rocked and Penny and Redman arent exactly household names.
My prediction, if Florida gets good starts, they will win it!
***NEWS FLASH***
New York didn't actually win last night. Boston did.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/postcurse1.html
New York didn't actually win last night. Boston did.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/postcurse1.html
BOSTON RED SOX TO NEW YORK YANKEES
CONVERSION FORM
Thank you for your interest in becoming a member of the New York Yankees Fan Club. Due to an unprecedented volume of requests, we are currently processing only fan conversion registrations for Boston Red Sox fans. Conversion requests from other teams will be accepted once all Red Sox requests are processed. We expect this to take a number of weeks based on the current backlog of requests.
Please take a few moments to fill out the conversion form below to help us get to know you better and prescribe any required counseling to recover from your previous fan experience.
Name: __________________________________________________________________
Last (Please Print) First MI
Address: _________________________________________________________________
# Street
_________________________________________________________________
City State Zip
1. Please indicate the last time you watched the Boston Red Sox win the World Series:
[ ] 1918 (Please leave this form at the front desk of your nursing home)
[ ] Have never witnessed this event
2. Please indicate your favorite moments in Red Sox history: (Check all that apply)
[ ] Babe Ruth sold to the Yankees
[ ] Pesky holds the ball as the Yankees score the winning run in ‘48
[ ] Bob Gibson shuts down the Sox in the ’67 series
[ ] Sox trade Sparky Lyle to the Yankees for Danny Cater
[ ] Big Red Machine beats the Sox in Game 7 of the ’75 Series
[ ] Sox lose 14 ½ game lead to the Yankees in ‘78
[ ] Bucky Dent homers in ’78 playoff game
[ ] Bob Stanley throws wild pitch in 6th game of ’86 Series
[ ] Grounder goes through Bill Buckner’s legs in the 6th game of ’86 Series
[ ] Future Hall of Famer Wade Boggs signs to play with the Yankees
[ ] Wade Boggs rides policeman’s horse after Yanks win ’96 Series
[ ] Future Hall of Famer Roger Clemens traded to the Yankees
[ ] Yanks wipe out Sox in five games in ’99 ALCS
[ ] Roger Clemens wins game 4 for the Yanks to clinch the ’99 Series
3. Reasons you believe the Sox have not won a World Series since 1918: (Check all that apply)
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Pitching
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Hitting
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Defense
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Bad calls by Umpires
[ ] The curse of the Babe
4. Have you experienced any of the following after another inevitable Red Sox loss: (Check all that apply)
[ ] Headache [ ] Uncontrolled Anger
[ ] Heartache [ ] Holes punched in doors or walls
[ ] Nausea [ ] Smashed TV screens
[ ] Depression [ ] Avoided Yankee fans for days or weeks
5. Is October your least favorite time of year? [ ] Yes [ ] No
6. Are you tired of saying “Wait till next year”? [ ] Yes [ ] No
7. Are you ready to admit that:
a. Joe DiMaggio was better than Ted Williams? [ ] Yes [ ] No
b. Thurman Munson was better than Carlton Fisk? [ ] Yes [ ] No
c. Derek Jeter is better than Nomar Garciaparra? [
CONVERSION FORM
Thank you for your interest in becoming a member of the New York Yankees Fan Club. Due to an unprecedented volume of requests, we are currently processing only fan conversion registrations for Boston Red Sox fans. Conversion requests from other teams will be accepted once all Red Sox requests are processed. We expect this to take a number of weeks based on the current backlog of requests.
Please take a few moments to fill out the conversion form below to help us get to know you better and prescribe any required counseling to recover from your previous fan experience.
Name: __________________________________________________________________
Last (Please Print) First MI
Address: _________________________________________________________________
# Street
_________________________________________________________________
City State Zip
1. Please indicate the last time you watched the Boston Red Sox win the World Series:
[ ] 1918 (Please leave this form at the front desk of your nursing home)
[ ] Have never witnessed this event
2. Please indicate your favorite moments in Red Sox history: (Check all that apply)
[ ] Babe Ruth sold to the Yankees
[ ] Pesky holds the ball as the Yankees score the winning run in ‘48
[ ] Bob Gibson shuts down the Sox in the ’67 series
[ ] Sox trade Sparky Lyle to the Yankees for Danny Cater
[ ] Big Red Machine beats the Sox in Game 7 of the ’75 Series
[ ] Sox lose 14 ½ game lead to the Yankees in ‘78
[ ] Bucky Dent homers in ’78 playoff game
[ ] Bob Stanley throws wild pitch in 6th game of ’86 Series
[ ] Grounder goes through Bill Buckner’s legs in the 6th game of ’86 Series
[ ] Future Hall of Famer Wade Boggs signs to play with the Yankees
[ ] Wade Boggs rides policeman’s horse after Yanks win ’96 Series
[ ] Future Hall of Famer Roger Clemens traded to the Yankees
[ ] Yanks wipe out Sox in five games in ’99 ALCS
[ ] Roger Clemens wins game 4 for the Yanks to clinch the ’99 Series
3. Reasons you believe the Sox have not won a World Series since 1918: (Check all that apply)
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Pitching
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Hitting
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Defense
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Bad calls by Umpires
[ ] The curse of the Babe
4. Have you experienced any of the following after another inevitable Red Sox loss: (Check all that apply)
[ ] Headache [ ] Uncontrolled Anger
[ ] Heartache [ ] Holes punched in doors or walls
[ ] Nausea [ ] Smashed TV screens
[ ] Depression [ ] Avoided Yankee fans for days or weeks
5. Is October your least favorite time of year? [ ] Yes [ ] No
6. Are you tired of saying “Wait till next year”? [ ] Yes [ ] No
7. Are you ready to admit that:
a. Joe DiMaggio was better than Ted Williams? [ ] Yes [ ] No
b. Thurman Munson was better than Carlton Fisk? [ ] Yes [ ] No
c. Derek Jeter is better than Nomar Garciaparra? [
To all red sox fans
BOSTON RED SOX TO NEW YORK YANKEES
CONVERSION FORM
Thank you for your interest in becoming a member of the New York Yankees Fan Club. Due to an unprecedented volume of requests, we are currently processing only fan conversion registrations for Boston Red Sox fans. Conversion requests from other teams will be accepted once all Red Sox requests are processed. We expect this to take a number of weeks based on the current backlog of requests.
Please take a few moments to fill out the conversion form below to help us get to know you better and prescribe any required counseling to recover from your previous fan experience.
Name: Address: City State Zip
1. Please indicate the last time you watched the Boston Red Sox win the World Series:
[ ] 1918 (Please leave this form at the front desk of your nursing home)
[ ] Have never witnessed this event
2. Please indicate your favorite moments in Red Sox history: (Check all that apply)
[ ] Babe Ruth sold to the Yankees
[ ] Pesky holds the ball as the Yankees score the winning run in ‘48
[ ] Bob Gibson shuts down the Sox in the ’67 series
[ ] Sox trade Sparky Lyle to the Yankees for Danny Cater
[ ] Big Red Machine beats the Sox in Game 7 of the ’75 Series
[ ] Sox lose 14 ½ game lead to the Yankees in ‘78
[ ] Bucky Dent homers in ’78 playoff game
[ ] Bob Stanley throws wild pitch in 6th game of ’86 Series
[ ] Grounder goes through Bill Buckner’s legs in the 6th game of ’86 Series
[ ] Future Hall of Famer Wade Boggs signs to play with the Yankees
[ ] Wade Boggs rides policeman’s horse after Yanks win ’96 Series
[ ] Future Hall of Famer Roger Clemens traded to the Yankees
[ ] Yanks wipe out Sox in five games in ’99 ALCS
[ ] Roger Clemens wins game 4 for the Yanks to clinch the ’99 Series
3. Reasons you believe the Sox have not won a World Series since 1918: (Check all that apply)
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Pitching
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Hitting
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Defense
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Bad calls by Umpires
[ ] The curse of the Babe
4. Have you experienced any of the following after another inevitable Red Sox loss: (Check all that apply)
[ ] Headache [ ] Uncontrolled Anger
[ ] Heartache [ ] Holes punched in doors or walls
[ ] Nausea [ ] Smashed TV screens
[ ] Depression [ ] Avoided Yankee fans for days or weeks
5. Is October your least favorite time of year? [ ] Yes [ ] No
6. Are you tired of saying “Wait till next year”? [ ] Yes [ ] No
7. Are you ready to admit that:
a. Joe DiMaggio was better than Ted Williams? [ ] Yes [ ] No
b. Thurman Munson was better than Carlton Fisk? [ ] Yes [ ] No
c. Derek Jeter is better than Nomar Garciaparra? [ ] Yes [ ] No
d. Don Zimmer is a managerial genius? [ ] Yes [ ] No
e. The Sox next century will be no better than the last? [ ] Yes [ ] No
f. The “Green Monster” is ugly and stupid? [ ] Yes [ } No
Once you have completed this form, please forward to Yankee Stadium. Then burn all your remaining Red Sox clothing, memorabilia, and associated reminders. After reviewing your request, the Yankee Fan Club will contact you with notification of acceptance or rejection.
If accepted, you will receive:
A recommended recuperation program which includes a recording of Frank Sinatra singing “New York, New York” over and over again
An opportunity to obtain tickets to the 2003 World Series at Yankee Stadium
Posters of Boggs and Clemens in Yankee uniforms wearing their championship rings
A dart board sporting a picture of Yaz
A copy of our popular handbook, “Harassing Red Sox Fans for Fun and Profit”
A coupon for a future poster of Pedro Martinez in a Yankee uniform
A one-year subscription to a weekly support group for ex-Red Sox fans in your area
If rejected, you will receive:
Our pity and condolences, plus a 26 second video capturing the past 100 years of Red Sox highlights in head-to-head competition against the Yankees narrated by George “Boomer” Scott.
I hereby renounce the Boston Red Sox for all eternity on this the ______ day of ________________, 200__
____________________________________
(Signed)
(Office Use Only)
[ ] Approved
_________________________________________
[ ] Declined George M. Steinbrenner III
BOSTON RED SOX TO NEW YORK YANKEES
CONVERSION FORM
Thank you for your interest in becoming a member of the New York Yankees Fan Club. Due to an unprecedented volume of requests, we are currently processing only fan conversion registrations for Boston Red Sox fans. Conversion requests from other teams will be accepted once all Red Sox requests are processed. We expect this to take a number of weeks based on the current backlog of requests.
Please take a few moments to fill out the conversion form below to help us get to know you better and prescribe any required counseling to recover from your previous fan experience.
Name: Address: City State Zip
1. Please indicate the last time you watched the Boston Red Sox win the World Series:
[ ] 1918 (Please leave this form at the front desk of your nursing home)
[ ] Have never witnessed this event
2. Please indicate your favorite moments in Red Sox history: (Check all that apply)
[ ] Babe Ruth sold to the Yankees
[ ] Pesky holds the ball as the Yankees score the winning run in ‘48
[ ] Bob Gibson shuts down the Sox in the ’67 series
[ ] Sox trade Sparky Lyle to the Yankees for Danny Cater
[ ] Big Red Machine beats the Sox in Game 7 of the ’75 Series
[ ] Sox lose 14 ½ game lead to the Yankees in ‘78
[ ] Bucky Dent homers in ’78 playoff game
[ ] Bob Stanley throws wild pitch in 6th game of ’86 Series
[ ] Grounder goes through Bill Buckner’s legs in the 6th game of ’86 Series
[ ] Future Hall of Famer Wade Boggs signs to play with the Yankees
[ ] Wade Boggs rides policeman’s horse after Yanks win ’96 Series
[ ] Future Hall of Famer Roger Clemens traded to the Yankees
[ ] Yanks wipe out Sox in five games in ’99 ALCS
[ ] Roger Clemens wins game 4 for the Yanks to clinch the ’99 Series
3. Reasons you believe the Sox have not won a World Series since 1918: (Check all that apply)
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Pitching
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Hitting
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Lack of Defense
[ ] The curse of the Babe
[ ] Bad calls by Umpires
[ ] The curse of the Babe
4. Have you experienced any of the following after another inevitable Red Sox loss: (Check all that apply)
[ ] Headache [ ] Uncontrolled Anger
[ ] Heartache [ ] Holes punched in doors or walls
[ ] Nausea [ ] Smashed TV screens
[ ] Depression [ ] Avoided Yankee fans for days or weeks
5. Is October your least favorite time of year? [ ] Yes [ ] No
6. Are you tired of saying “Wait till next year”? [ ] Yes [ ] No
7. Are you ready to admit that:
a. Joe DiMaggio was better than Ted Williams? [ ] Yes [ ] No
b. Thurman Munson was better than Carlton Fisk? [ ] Yes [ ] No
c. Derek Jeter is better than Nomar Garciaparra? [ ] Yes [ ] No
d. Don Zimmer is a managerial genius? [ ] Yes [ ] No
e. The Sox next century will be no better than the last? [ ] Yes [ ] No
f. The “Green Monster” is ugly and stupid? [ ] Yes [ } No
Once you have completed this form, please forward to Yankee Stadium. Then burn all your remaining Red Sox clothing, memorabilia, and associated reminders. After reviewing your request, the Yankee Fan Club will contact you with notification of acceptance or rejection.
If accepted, you will receive:
A recommended recuperation program which includes a recording of Frank Sinatra singing “New York, New York” over and over again
An opportunity to obtain tickets to the 2003 World Series at Yankee Stadium
Posters of Boggs and Clemens in Yankee uniforms wearing their championship rings
A dart board sporting a picture of Yaz
A copy of our popular handbook, “Harassing Red Sox Fans for Fun and Profit”
A coupon for a future poster of Pedro Martinez in a Yankee uniform
A one-year subscription to a weekly support group for ex-Red Sox fans in your area
If rejected, you will receive:
Our pity and condolences, plus a 26 second video capturing the past 100 years of Red Sox highlights in head-to-head competition against the Yankees narrated by George “Boomer” Scott.
I hereby renounce the Boston Red Sox for all eternity on this the ______ day of ________________, 200__
____________________________________
(Signed)
(Office Use Only)
[ ] Approved
_________________________________________
[ ] Declined George M. Steinbrenner III
I think its fair to say that these 2 go hand and hand. And let us not forget the Rockets blister and Kelvin Sheraldy.sirduke said:
If I remember correctly, the infamous ball holding incident involving Peskey took place during the '46 World Series against the St. Louis Cardinals.
Unless there were two ball holding incidents...
