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But don't forget, Asians have a very low divorce rate, do not impreganate their "bitches" (as women are called here in North American pop culture) and run away leaving "them holes" (as some women are label by some men) to deal with it.

Furthermore, I remember in the late ninties there was a British band called Prodigy. And Prodigy had a song called "Smack my bitch up", now, would a culture that respecst their women produce such a piece? Not only are they degrading women by calling them bitches, but they are also promoting violence by "smacking this bitch".

If you really want to see which culture oppresses their women more, just look at how each respective culture presents their women in the media and in pop culture. Mind you I am not taking sides as both East and West have both done harm to their women.
 
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hehehe said:
It has nothing to do with getting rebellious, it has everything to do with people like you being narrow minded and ignorant.
Yeah, and by defending the honor of our women and ourselves (Asian men), it shows that we care for not just ourselves(Asian men), but also our women.
 

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It has nothing to do with getting rebellious, it has everything to do with people like you being narrow minded and ignorant.
Care to explain why you think that I am narrow minded and ignorant. I have only proposed untested theories and have sided with not attacking personalities and sterotyping cultures.

Also, someone suggested low divorce rates in asian culture. This seems to provide a partial support for my theory that married asian guys may have less intimadation to cheat on their wives. Lower divorce rates are pretty common in suppressive cultures. Just because divorce rates are low does not mean that couples are happy. It may suggest high tolerance for suppression (perhaps due to social pressure or other reasons).
 

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There are many factors causing low or high divorce rates (some good and bad) which I'm not going to get into.

It is changing significantly in china where I'm hearing divorce rates of over 60% because of modernization of society and women becoming more financially independent.
 

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I have asian female friends who only date caucasin men and from what I have learned here are some of the reasons they don't date asian guys. I don't necessarily agree with some of the answers but who am I to tell them what they should like.

1) generally asian men are shorter and have a smaller body frame
2) asian men remind them of their brothers or rebellion against parents
3) they were raised in an all caucasin community which shaped their preferences for caucasin males

Also I really do believe media plays a large part on what the "ideal" male should be and you don't see alot of asian role models in Western Media . I'm sorry but Jackie and Jet Li is not representative of us asian males. LOL. We aren't all born with Karate and math skills. LOL
 

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Oh forgot there is one asian actor Russel Wong which both Asian and Caucasin swoon after. Too bad he can't act !

It's interesting not hear from more SPs on this thread.
 

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The 60% rate could be just urban modern centers ....not the entire population of china. Remember the upper/middle class only represents 15-20% of the entire population.
 

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Takeda Shingen said:
Besides, if Asian culture is as oppressive as you guys say it is, how come Asia has had so many women in positions of power such as Prime Ministers of India, Indonasia, Pakistan, Philippines and Bangledash? If Asians have no respect for their women and treat them like submissive sexual objects, do you think Asian women can obtain such high positions?
Don't tell me you believe this. Saying that Pakistan is supportive of women's rights because they once had a female PM is like syaing that the Republicans or Bush administration strongly supports minorties like never before because Bush's cabinet is the most ethnically diverse in US history (Powell, Rice, Minita, etc..). Anyone who is familiar with the regions you mentioned would not make a sweeping generalization like you made.

Takeda Shingen said:
But don't forget, Asians have a very low divorce rate, do not impreganate their "bitches" (as women are called here in North American pop culture) and run away leaving "them holes" (as some women are label by some men) to deal with it.
Again you have to look deeper into the facts. There are many countries where divorce is NOT an option for the women or where divorce is so frowned upon (shame to the familes) that women lose more by divorcing an abusive husband than staying in it. Also in some of the poorer countries, women don't have as many opportunities in terms of jobs so if they lose their husband, they do not have an means of income. So obviously the divorce rate is going to be low. Actually a higher divorce rate, while sad, represents more rights for women. Divorce rates are much higher than a century ago in N. America. Does that mean that women's rights have gone down since the 1900s? No, it means that they have more rights to divorce their husband (or it is easier) and they have more means to support themselves without a huisband.
 

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As for Hollywood brainwashing - that is certainly an issue. But what do you guys expect? It is Hollywood and the US (and Canada) is still a white dominated society so they are going to cater to the demographics and make "their guy" the ideal! Just like other countries! I saw a Hong Kong flick once and obviously the HK star (I think it was Leon Lai) was the star and played the lead where the chicks swooned over. They had the same token foreigners who got their asses kicked and had one black dude that kept being call "blackie" (via subtitle). Hong Kong cinema is catering to its demographics.

Eventually you can break the stereotype by the media. Blacks were pushed down for generations (and still are) by the media but eventually overcame it to the point where they are at times portrayed as the stars and heroes.
 

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hehehe , what the hell you are talking about.. did I putting down other race and culture? I don't think so. Shame on you if you think that was funny.

All I said in the thread was , I don't agree someone said the divorce rates in China is over 60% and that was my only post in this thread.. you need to act a bit more mature
 

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Oh really? I have seen all the so called stars at TOG.

Rely: I am talking about CoCo, I was told she did not see asians because she thought asian customers were rude plus she did not want to run into her friends unless you were the exception, or she lied.


hapkido said:
"I have an asian friend in S.F. whose daughter made it quite clear to her father that she does not like asian culture and she does not want to date asian guys period. There is not a damm thing that old man can do "

So what's your point? I can list a number of asian females who won't date a white guy because she doesn't find them appealing physically. [/B]
Guess I did not make my point clear.

My point is that this(not dating guys of her own ethnic background) is far more prevalent among asian females than caucasian females, or females of other ethnic background.

I view this as a sold-out by asian females, as many of my asian friends do.

Obviously, you guys are pissed off because I am telling something you don't like to hear,i.e. blaming the messenger for the message

Not everybody can handle the truth because sometimes the truth hurts.
 
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Hmmm ..... I wonder how women are treated in the Holy Bible, the cornerstone of Western civilization. I don't need to go far. Just Genesis will tell you alot. Eve was created from Adams rib and that the wifey shall be subservient to the hubby.

At the same time, Confucian literature also treats women badly. Like I said before, treating women bad is not an exclusively Asian thing. East and West have abused their women and we recognize this fact.

And as for Don, well, let me ask how man women Prime Ministers have existed in the West? One in Thatcher. WOW !!!

And to conclude my post for the night I wish to raise this question, and it is: So its okay for Whites to fuck Ethnics, but its not okay for Ethnics to fuck Whites? Holy shit man ... you guys are worse then the Confedarate army!

He we are talking about who's fucking who and all the cultural shit and how Asians don't treat their women properly. So it boils down to a question of equality of the sexes. Yet, by saying Asians are loosers in the dating department, wouldn't that contradict the whole essence of equality because certain people regard Asians as inferior to the White man because the Asiatic man treat their women like shit?

And yes, ice_dog, the truth does hurt. Please look at how the West has treated their women and other races before you point the finger and critisize.
 

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Some people need to relax here. I think you guys are off base here if you think (caucasian) people here get offended when "ethnics fuck whites". We have members of all sorts of different backgrounds here on TERB and this has not been an issue and I think other members would agree with me. You guys are making it an issue. Regarding this topic, ice_dog has his theories and that is fine. I don't necessarily agree but I don't think he has been (overly) malicious in his posts. If he has, then the mods would interviene. But for the most part he hasn't really been maliciously attacking anyone. But some of you have become very agitated and sound hostile (and insecure). People are always gonna disagree.
 

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Having just gone through most of the posts here (why, I do not know), ice_dog - you sound like you DO have some sort of issue with this topic, having done all this research and whipping out all these reference url's.

Anyway this thread is starting to denegrate into flames like other previously politically incorrect threads. Lets shut this down and get back to the one common interest we have here!
 

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< I am talking about CoCo, I was told she did not see asians because she thought asian customers were rude plus she did not want to run into her friends unless you were the exception, or she lied>

Well my friend hate to break it to you but she is lying . Also I dont get the point your trying to make with this? One mainlander who says she doesnt see asians cause they are so rude and you use this to make a point about what? Did you ever stop and think that maybe she is telling you what you want to hear so that you are endeared to her and an emotion connection is made.... which leads to repeat business? I gone to see mainland SPs who only want to see asians.


<Guess I did not make my point clear.My point is that this(not dating guys of her own ethnic background) is far more prevalent among asian females than caucasian females, or females of other ethnic background. I view this as a sold-out by asian females, as many of my asian friends do. Obviously, you guys are pissed off because I am telling something you don't like to hear,i.e. blaming the messenger for the message. Not everybody can handle the truth because sometimes the truth hurts.>

Buddy I respond what I read and interpreted from your first statement. Your 2nd explaination compared to the first is the difference between nite and day. As for the truth that hurts? You reading in tooo deep buddy. Sold out? That is moronic thinking. These girls choose based on environemental and life experience factors. I couldnt care less what asian females prefer to date or any other female race. That is their choice for whatever reason. For every point discussed I like to provide a counterpoint for balance. You have a problem with this? It is you who is interpreting that I'm pissed so maybe your uncomfortable with this discussion.


Now where is my tea! :)
 
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