Cuba - U.S. "Normalization"?

[SkyRider]

Looks like Cuba and the U.S. might normalize diplomatic relations. That would leave Russia out in the cold.

 

[SkyRider]

Senator Marc Rubio is saying on CNN that Cuba is a "police state" and this will not change even if relations with the U.S. is normalized.

P.S. American Alan Gross has been freed and is back in the U.S.

 

[Aardvark154]

Looks like Cuba and the U.S. might normalize diplomatic relations. That would leave Russia out in the cold.

Indeed that may happen, I'm not so sure at all about Russia being out in the cold.


On the other hand Senator Rubio is also correct.

 

[happ]

The monger party is over
Never been

 

[jcpro]

I'm curious. Did Cuba realase political prisoners, allowed free press, elections, etc? Or is this another case of sucking up to enemies and pissing off friends- from the amature in the White House?

 

[danmand]

Good news for Cuba, bad news for all us who have loved to visit the island.

 

[Aardvark154]

I'm curious. Did Cuba realase political prisoners, allowed free press, elections, etc? Or is this another case of sucking up to enemies and pissing off friends- from the amature in the White House?

Seemingly the later

 

[basketcase]

I'm curious. Did Cuba realase political prisoners, allowed free press, elections, etc? Or is this another case of sucking up to enemies and pissing off friends- from the amature in the White House?

Were American sanctions having any success in achieving that over the past 55 years?

I was wondering how our Canadian ultra-righties and ultra-lefties would respond considering that Harper's government played a significant role in getting this done.

 

[danmand]

Seemingly the later

Negative, rather he is reversing an idiotic, unwarranted and failed US policy. Good for him.

 

[oldjones]

Were American sanctions having any success in achieving that over the past 55 years?

I was wondering how our Canadian ultra-righties and ultra-lefties would respond considering that Harper's government played a significant role in getting this done.

Not to disparage hoteliers, but pretty much all our government did was rent the meeting rooms and send out the invites.

 

[oldjones]

I'm curious. Did Cuba realase political prisoners, allowed free press, elections, etc? Or is this another case of sucking up to enemies and pissing off friends- from the amature in the White House?

Seemingly the later

Your disappointment at the White House's long overdue recognition that 55 years of ineffectual, costly and and downright shameful failure of Cuba policy should end sooner rather than later is understandable. There will always be fact-resistant die-hards attached to any lost cause.

But fix the spelling, OK.

 

[SkyRider]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/17/bob-menendez-**********-rubio-obama-cuba_n_6340906.html

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[oldjones]

Wanna bet this strategy of common sense, decency and respect has Cuba almost entirely capitalist in no more than two decades?

 

[Aardvark154]

Wanna bet this strategy of common sense, decency and respect has Cuba almost entirely capitalist in no more than two decades?

More importantly is will that be accompanied by freedom for the people of Cuba and justice.

 

[fuji]

More importantly is will that be accompanied by freedom for the people of Cuba and justice.

Economic prosperity in and of itself is a form of freedom and justice. China is better off as a wealthy authoritarian state, than as a poor one. The US blockade of Cuba was deeply unjust, normalization simply rights one of the injustices that Cubans face. The fact that they also face many other injustices in addition to the injustice inflicted by the United States is beside the point.

The US understood this point very well in opening trade with China, but for some reason goes bat-shit crazy when it comes to Cuba.

 

[JohnLarue]

Were American sanctions having any success in achieving that over the past 55 years?

Absolutely
There will never be a threat of communism emanating from Cuba again
Cuba tried it and it failed miserably despite being propped up by the Ussr for 30 years
The people of Cuba will be uber capitalist

I was wondering how our Canadian ultra-righties and ultra-lefties would respond considering that Harper's government played a significant role in getting this done.

Good
It will be good for the people of Cuba
While economic sanctions were necessary, they have paid a very heavy price for Fidel's leftie views
here is a price to be paid for nationalizing other peoples assets
I will admit he did do a very good job wrt Health & education in Cuba

I am wondering if the owners (or their descendants) of expropriated assets such as the fruit companies & casinos (mobsters) will be getting their assets back anytime soon

 

[JohnLarue]

But fix the spelling, OK.

Again with the spelling???
WTF
Hell even in Cuba they do not have spelling police

 

[basketcase]

...
Absolutely
There will never be a threat of communism emanating from Cuba again...

Holy shit. It's 2014 and someone is still worried about the spread of communism.

 

[onthebottom]

Bit a yawner, wonder when the casinos will open....

 

[SkyRider]

despite being propped up by the Ussr for 30 years

Cuba's other sponsor, Venezuela, is having its own problems.

Looks like Cuban baseball players will no longer have to defect to play ball in the U.S. and Cubans will no longer have to escape Cuba in rowboats to get to the U.S.