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COVID-19 vaccine uptake plunges in Canada

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Watch it all Ory, they get into the vaccines and Mahar's twat comments
Before we answer what the hell happened to Bill Maher, I wanna know what the hell happened to Pakman's stache? :ROFLMAO:
 

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Watch it all Ory, they get into the vaccines and Mahar's twat comments
Soon as he used the leftists buzzwords anti---vaxxer and science denier I know where creepy mustache dude is going.....

Pulling a transcript from 18 years ago to characterize someone reeks of desperation. Bet ya he wouldn't do that with the sitting president.

All the other Maher comments are what I've been saying from the beginning. Natural immunity is best and masks don't do diddly. Oh yeah and leave the confusing gender BS out of children's education......
 

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This was the actual problem you see.

If Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon and all these other morally superior cunts were to just shut the fuck up about a vaccine that they didn't know anything about and instead just let people's family doctors make the recommendation, then most people wouldn't have had any issues getting the vaccine. The same way they dont have issues vaccinating their newborns for polio, measles and other ailments.
Wait.
You don't want news reporters reporting on the results of studies when there is an emergency and people want to know about the vaccine results?

Because that's what that clip is - the results of the latest study at the time she reported it.

Most anti-covid vax people are actually not anti-vaxers they are just anti-covid vaccine, because it is so politicized. To the extent that if you didn't get the vaccine you are are a right winger and if you did get it, you are a left wing morally superior person. Its nonsense.
Unfortunately, to leverage that politicization, the right wingers decided to dip into the anti-vaxxer playbook of pre-written myths and scare tactics.
That has turned a bunch of people into anti-vaxxers, because they had to lean into the arguments.
The anti-vax movement in the US (in particular) has gained significant strength because of this and we should expect more outbreaks of previously controlled disease.
We might get lucky.
Any new pandemic is going to be handled even worse because I expect you won't even get as much uptake of any vaccine as you did this time.

A huge reason for this in my opinion is the collusion between the media, big pharma, the government and government health officials. They wanted to aggressively market the vaccine and leverage a public health crisis to make money, that they went to great lengths to justify and drum up support for very oppressive laws such as vaccine mandates, capacity restrictions, mask mandates and so on while simultaneously attaching a political narrative to it. Its ridiculous.
There you go.
No such thing as public health, just marketing campaigns.
This belief is now common even in people who think of themselves as pro-vaxx, which means there will be an increase in rejection of vaccines going forward.
 
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I dont know how natural immunity gets brushed under the rug. Even when Canada's travel restrictions were in place, you had to show a negative test, and a vaccine proof, or a negative test and proof of having had covid within a certain number of weeks. I am a little vague on the details there.
Infection-induced immunity is just a lot harder to track since it isn't going to be in the records for lots of people, but a vaccine administration is.
Not too mysterious.
 
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He can't do anything right, except beg for donations for his channel. Seen it on a stream once, such a classy guy. 😂
But it's not surprising coming from him.
The one thing he can do is state the facts and tell the truth.
 

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Soon as he used the leftists buzzwords anti---vaxxer and science denier I know where creepy mustache dude is going.....

Pulling a transcript from 18 years ago to characterize someone reeks of desperation. Bet ya he wouldn't do that with the sitting president.

All the other Maher comments are what I've been saying from the beginning. Natural immunity is best and masks don't do diddly. Oh yeah and leave the confusing gender BS out of children's education......
As soon as you say masks do diddly you are in left field. I actually always believed natural immunity is real but like vaccines, it becomes less of a factor as time passes and as Val mentioned, it's not measurable unless someone has a doctor's note claiming they were infected.

Vaccines save lives but hey, some prefer to purchase products from snake oil salesmen which are not approved but hey they've done their own "research". ;) :cautious:
 

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Infection-induced immunity is just a lot harder to track since it isn't going to be in the records for lots of people, but a vaccine administration is.
Not too mysterious.
Yes it is harder. But people can always produce their COVID test results which are available and recorded online. Vaccine administration for the most part is but remember there are people with fake vaccine documents too.
 

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Wait.
You don't want news reporters reporting on the results of studies when there is an emergency and people want to know about the vaccine results?

Because that's what that clip is - the results of the latest study at the time she reported it.
Let them report on it no problem. But its not just reporting these days, but also political partisanship.

Unfortunately, to leverage that politicization, the right wingers decided to dip into the anti-vaxxer playbook of pre-written myths and scare tactics.
That has turned a bunch of people into anti-vaxxers, because they had to lean into the arguments.
The anti-vax movement in the US (in particular) has gained significant strength because of this and we should expect more outbreaks of previously controlled disease.
We might get lucky.
Any new pandemic is going to be handled even worse because I expect you won't even get as much uptake of any vaccine as you did this time.
That is possible, yes. But if someone wants to be an anti-vaxer and endanger themselves, then I still say it is on them because that is the choice they are making. We cannot do much more about it. But the problem at its core is the politicization both on the right and the left.

There you go.
No such thing as public health, just marketing campaigns.
Not untrue though. There is rightfully a general distrust of media, the government and corporations (especially big pharma) given their history of shady dealings and collusion. So people were rightfully skeptical when the vaccine came out so fast within 9 months. Even I (and I am pro vaccine) was skeptical and waited 6 months to get my shots when it was proven to be safe.
 

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But the problem at its core is the politicization both on the right and the left.
That's a wildly asymmetrical problem these days.

It will grow more symmetrical over time, if it continues, of course.
 

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That's a wildly asymmetrical problem these days.

It will grow more symmetrical over time, if it continues, of course.
You mean right wingers politicize it more than left wingers ?

I dont think that is the case.

I think both do, in equal measure and moralize it too.
 
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