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COVID-19 vaccine uptake plunges in Canada

basketcase

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I've had the measles so the vaccine I took as a kid clearly didn't work.
One of the things I love about science is it's constantly about improvement. I don't know how old you are or where/when you were vaccinated but the vaccine has been improved several times over the years. Between improved vaccines and higher uptake, measles has been on a continual decline since the 60's to the point where half a century later, it is no longer considered endemic in North America.

And I'm sure you understand that vaccines have never been 100% effective. Their power is in reducing the probability of spread combined with herd immunity.
 

Valcazar

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In Florida 1,700% increase in VAERS reports Compared to an increase of 400% in overall vaccine administration Reporting of life-threatening conditions Increased over 4,400% This is a novel increase Not seen during the 2009 H1N1 vaccination campaign There is a need for additional unbiased research, to better understand the COVID-19 vaccines' short and long-term effects. The findings in Florida are consistent with various studies that continue to uncover such risks.
So in Florida, a state which politicized the vaccines as much, if not more, than any other - they report many more self reports of adverse events in the database the political powers that be hyped up and made people more aware of?

That's not a shocking result.

Yes, long term studies and follow ups on this vaccine - like all the others - should be ongoing (which it is).
But stop letting these people panic you constantly.
 

Jubee

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Who cares?
We're talking about the general anti-vaxx movement and how the anti-COVID vaxx people have empowered them.
Who cares? lol Well that's convenient.😉
It's a simple question, am I anti-vaxx or not? I care, I'm curious.
 

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Nothing is 100% effective, not even a gun to the head, dude. Vaccines lower the probability of catching a specific virus. Sometimes (like smallpox and very nearly polio), the probability is so low that the virus cannot exist anymore (yay!)
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Polio is making another comeback as vaccination is never complete. It is currently endemic in Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan.
 
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Valcazar

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Who cares? lol Well that's convenient.😉
It's a simple question, am I anti-vaxx or not? I care, I'm curious.
I have no fucking idea and I don't particularly care.

Objectively, supporting the politicization of the COVID vaccine means you are in effect.
That you personally don't consider yourself so isn't of interest to me.
If you are, you will expand your circle of anti-vax activities.
If you're really pro-vax, you will eventually see how the anti-vax movement is endangering your health and the community's and find yourself taking efforts to fight back.
If you're apathetic, you won't do anything.

It's largely irrelevant.
 

Jubee

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I have no fucking idea and I don't particularly care.

Objectively, supporting the politicization of the COVID vaccine means you are in effect.
That you personally don't consider yourself so isn't of interest to me.
If you are, you will expand your circle of anti-vax activities.
If you're really pro-vax, you will eventually see how the anti-vax movement is endangering your health and the community's and find yourself taking efforts to fight back.
If you're apathetic, you won't do anything.

It's largely irrelevant.
You care enough to post here, so you do care.
Would you consider me anti-vaxx if I got the flu shot before?

Simple yes or no really.
 
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Valcazar

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You care enough to post here, so you do care.
Would you consider me anti-vaxx if I got the flu shot before?

Simple yes or no really.
Not remotely enough information.
 

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I'll answer for you, you can't call me anti-vaxx.
I will call you an anti vaxxer based on your posts here and I don't care of one year you took a flu shot, my personal opinion is you're still an anti vaxxer in my books.
 

krealtarron

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They still believe this unfortunately....LOL.
This was the actual problem you see.

If Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon and all these other morally superior cunts were to just shut the fuck up about a vaccine that they didn't know anything about and instead just let people's family doctors make the recommendation, then most people wouldn't have had any issues getting the vaccine. The same way they dont have issues vaccinating their newborns for polio, measles and other ailments.

Most anti-covid vax people are actually not anti-vaxers they are just anti-covid vaccine, because it is so politicized. To the extent that if you didn't get the vaccine you are are a right winger and if you did get it, you are a left wing morally superior person. Its nonsense.

A huge reason for this in my opinion is the collusion between the media, big pharma, the government and government health officials. They wanted to aggressively market the vaccine and leverage a public health crisis to make money, that they went to great lengths to justify and drum up support for very oppressive laws such as vaccine mandates, capacity restrictions, mask mandates and so on while simultaneously attaching a political narrative to it. Its ridiculous.
 

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This was the actual problem you see.

If Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon and all these other morally superior cunts were to just shut the fuck up about a vaccine that they didn't know anything about and instead just let people's family doctors make the recommendation, then most people wouldn't have had any issues getting the vaccine. The same way they dont have issues vaccinating their newborns for polio, measles and other ailments.

Don Lemon is hilarious....
 

Jubee

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This was the actual problem you see.

If Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon and all these other morally superior cunts were to just shut the fuck up about a vaccine that they didn't know anything about and instead just let people's family doctors make the recommendation, then most people wouldn't have had any issues getting the vaccine. The same way they dont have issues vaccinating their newborns for polio, measles and other ailments.

Most anti-covid vax people are actually not anti-vaxers they are just anti-covid vaccine, because it is so politicized. To the extent that if you didn't get the vaccine you are are a right winger and if you did get it, you are a left wing morally superior person. Its nonsense.

A huge reason for this in my opinion is the collusion between the media, big pharma, the government and government health officials. They wanted to aggressively market the vaccine and leverage a public health crisis to make money, that they went to great lengths to justify and drum up support for very oppressive laws such as vaccine mandates, capacity restrictions, mask mandates and so on while simultaneously attaching a political narrative to it. Its ridiculous.
I don't care for any politicians on either side, so for me it wasn't because it was "politicized".
I thought this was absolute cringe worthy though. lol 😬

 

krealtarron

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I don't care for any politicians on either side, so for me it wasn't because it was "politicized".
I thought this was absolute cringe worthy though. lol 😬

I believe in the science. So I believe the vaccine saves lives. It did in my mother's case.

But anyone is free to make their choices. Its their body and health and they know what they want.

But the De Blasio video was for sure cringey. I mean who came up with that shit? 🤦‍♂️
 

Jubee

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I believe in the science. So I believe the vaccine saves lives. It did in my mother's case.

But anyone is free to make their choices. Its their body and health and they know what they want.

But the De Blasio video was for sure cringey. I mean who came up with that shit? 🤦‍♂️
No idea, but someone thought it was a good look for DeBlasio. lol
 
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