Court stops Doug Ford from changing council size!
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John Tory - this should be a referendum issue that should be voted on by the people of Toronto. Yep, then no one can say shit. No more presumptions made by politicians about "what people want". But we might not get that opportunity? And for all we know that referendum could go in Ford's favor if their was one?
Using the the Notwithstanding clause for THIS issue, in these circumstances is like using a shotgun to kill a fly - stupid and dangerous. Ford has NO MANDATE to do this. I've heard him say in today's interviews that the people of Ontario gave him a mandate. Yes - but not to do this or any other stupid thing done for petty reasons. There is no good argument to disrupt an election already in progress. There is no balance here that can justify this action. If he ran on doing this it would be different. But he didn't. If he did it before the candidate nomination process began it would be different. But the timing didn't work - better luck next time.
Ford saying he has a mandate from Ontario to fuck around with Toronto's election is just wrong. Period.
Ford saying he has a mandate from Ontario to fuck around with Toronto's election is just wrong. Period.
Fewer councillors means more competition for better ones...this would help the dead wood issue you have agreed with.
The issue of reducing city council is not the point any more, its the clownish absurdity and irresponsibility of using the notwithstanding clause on such a minor issue.
Did Dumb DOFO mention that he Council size should be chopped down when he was a Councillor? Why was it not on his Platform in the Provincial Elections??
Question: What do you call a person who campaigns for the election to be Premier of the Province of Ontario and wins?
Answer: Premier
Did Rob or Doug Ford take their salaries when they were on Council? They said many times that council was dysfunctional and didn't get things done. Part of the dysfunction was the size of it. Doug also mentioned reducing the size of counil in his book. Why is everyone shocked? Inform yourself maybe?
It was on his election platform...reduce the size of government. Last I checked Toronto Council is government no? Why would that not qualify seeing as you are hung up on his campaign platform? Does it qualify or not?
JohnLarue beat me to this (thanks JL) so I'm providing the info again from his post. btw I noticed you didn't respond to his post below and conveniently changed the subject to something else. Care to pick up where you left off?
"Once again you show your ignorance
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blog...-revenue-tools
At present, Ontario’s municipalities fund their expenditures via a combination of property tax revenues, federal and provincial transfers, and user fees. About 42 per cent of Ontario municipal revenues come from property taxation with federal and provincial government transfers accounting for another 21 per cent
What was that about Toronto taxpayers separate from Ontario taxpayers?
Why do you go to such lengths to mislead others?"
This only works if the changes are made BEFORE the nomination process. When it is done after, the entire nomination process is made into a bad joke. You can't merge candidates from different wards because the changing boundaries makes the whole process different. Different Wards had different issues, different demographics - so entirely different than the merged Wards. This is a very bad precedent. What next - use the Notwithstanding clause to change the number of MPP's in the next provincial election to 4 with two from Etobicoke? Ford had no mandate to do this and is abusing his power. Not a good sign with 4 years left.
He's promised to use it again. He also has "ultimate respect for judges" yet has just over-ruled one.
Attached Bill 5 with the notwithstanding clause and the pass the bill again on Wednesday. Which is checkmate and game over !!
Bottom line 25 councillor and the rest will be unemployed and nothing can be done... LOL.
PS Doug was elected with a mandate to govern Ontario and it is within his right to pass Bill # 5 not some stupid liberal judge . PLus this stupid liberal is unelected!! FU To liberal unelected judge!! Thank god for the Notwithstanding
Clauses plus you can thank Pierrre Elliot Trudeau for the nonwithstanding clauses when he reparated the constitution!!
Attached nonwithstanding clause on Bill 5 and and the revote the bill 5 again and it checkmate!!
Game over ... LOL
I know it's hard, but you may want to read up on the reasons why judges are appointed and not elected.
LOL.. Checkmate!! attached notwithstanding clause to Bill 5 . Game over!! you can cry all you want!!
AND, the judge was appointed by an ELECTED government.
Too bad these children are too stupid to comprehend that.
Exactly. Not hard to find out that fact and why we appoint not elect judges in this country.
