He was on the street car alone when he was shot and he had a knife, there are much better ways to dis arm a person such as tear gas, taser. even a rubber bullet. Im sorry these many people your talking about including yourself have such a narrow minded view of mental health issues.
Constable James Forcillo Arrested for Breaching Bail Terms
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Some people condone death squad executions - that's fucked up.
As for my science experiment, I had to stop fantasizing about Michelle Mackey with her legs spread before me. Chunks of veggies were flying all over the place.
As for my science experiment, I had to stop fantasizing about Michelle Mackey with her legs spread before me. Chunks of veggies were flying all over the place.
I agree.
But it was even simpler. They could have just locked him inside the street car and called his father like the kid had requested the driver do.
But no, some hot head cop who thinks he's Rambo decided to shoot the kid 9 times.
This cop Forcillo was a bad cop. He had pulled his gun 12 times in the last 3 years he was on the job. 12 times that they know about. Most cops in Toronto go their whole career and never pull their gun. Not this guy. He'd been watching too many cop movies.
What an idiot! Seriously, it does not take long to get a variance to bail conditions. Wait it out for a couple of days.
To which Teejay should be thankful for.
Good for her.
I have NO idea why the media still refers James Forcillo as Constable Forcillo, as being a convicted criminal it nullifies him from being a cop. he could be reinstated should he win his appeal, but until then he is a CONVICT.
He was a cop and SURELY knew that you can't just go break bail conditions without them being varied. So we can assume that if it was as simple as just changing his surety and his place of residence, he would have waited and had his lawyer do that for him. Which in turn, suggests he is BS-ing about the reason and just got caught with no real excuse.
Courts tend to take bail conditions very seriously. It's seen as indicating how much the accused respects the authority of the court. So he may not be released again. Yup... This is why smart people DON'T breach bail.
Glad I am not the only thinking that. It made no sense to me. It is a really stupid reason to be busted for breach of bail.
My friends on the TPS say no one ever wanted to be paired with the guy. He was a cowboy who wanted to work in the downtown divisions so that he would see more action. No police officer in their right mind wants more action as the odds are that one day that action results in the officer themselves being hurt or killed. There are other issues as well because there were several higher ranking officers on the scene who did not take charge of the situation other than the one who was moving up from the back with the Taser. They deferred too much to the primary officers who already had guns drawn (including Forcillo). The other systemic problem is that we don’t equip our officers with enough non lethal weaponry/tools and also the training is ALWAYS shoot to kill. There is no such thing as shooting to wound, officially.
shooting to wound? no such thing
Forcillo was a terrible cop not doubting. If this happened in the 80s you can imagine that kid would have got his teeth smashed in by a person who wanted to be a police officer (and had the skill to deal with a high kid wielding a knife)
Would have spent the night in the drunk tank and released by the staff sergeant at 5am the next morning
but it didn't happen that way
it was a perfect storm
kids raised not to respect Police when they have guns on you and say "put the knife down" 20 times
when I was young I had guns drawn on me and would tell the officers if I wore girls panties at the time (do what ever they said)
people that don't deserve or get involved with policing because they think it is secure employment (policing is a calling)
thee two idiots came together that night and this shit happened
I'm not defending Forcillo. I think he's an ass, Im just saying his charges are incorrect
Forcillo was a terrible cop not doubting. If this happened in the 80s you can imagine that kid would have got his teeth smashed in by a person who wanted to be a police officer (and had the skill to deal with a high kid wielding a knife)
Would have spent the night in the drunk tank and released by the staff sergeant at 5am the next morning
but it didn't happen that way
it was a perfect storm
kids raised not to respect Police when they have guns on you and say "put the knife down" 20 times
when I was young I had guns drawn on me and would tell the officers if I wore girls panties at the time (do what ever they said)
people that don't deserve or get involved with policing because they think it is secure employment (policing is a calling)
thee two idiots came together that night and this shit happened
I'm not defending Forcillo. I think he's an ass, Im just saying his charges are incorrect
CP 24 is reporting that Forcilo went to his "fiance's house"
Huh?
During the trial, he was married and his wife was always at his side.
Then after the trial, they separate.
Now he's engaged?
WTF.
So I'm guessing that he either moves real fast and their is some dumb-ass woman out there who wants him, or he was stepping out on his wife prior to the trial at least.
If there is one type of guy that I always look sideways at, it's one who can't be single for even a minute.
Huh?
During the trial, he was married and his wife was always at his side.
Then after the trial, they separate.
Now he's engaged?
WTF.
So I'm guessing that he either moves real fast and their is some dumb-ass woman out there who wants him, or he was stepping out on his wife prior to the trial at least.
If there is one type of guy that I always look sideways at, it's one who can't be single for even a minute.
I remember reading a story a long time ago that some guys join the police force just so they can hunt down and shoot criminals.
Some guys join the Army for some reason, just so they can (legally) kill people
Some guys join the Army for some reason, just so they can (legally) kill people
You do realize that the kid was psychotic at the time and not responding to the cops because he was ill?
Yes, that's why he was convicted.
I'll admit it was a strange case. I'd say he wasn't justified in shooting him in the first place. But either way, he deserved to be convicted.
Sammy may have been a little shit, but he didn't deserve to die.
For real?
It really is amazing that some people think that way.
True, they had other non-lethal options but Forcillo chose not to exercise them.
Interesting you should mention that. I have several friends on the TPS as well. I asked one of them about Forcillo shortly after the shooting. I remember his reaction. His eyes widened and as he said "oh fuck, he's a nutcase." He also said said the same thing as your friends. Nobody wanted to be paired with the guy.
The kid was high as fuck and had possible mental issues. Filling him with bullets was the wrong approach. That's why he was convicted.
Can you introduce some sort of findings that tells me the guy that got full of bullets was treated for mental illness, or was diagnosed with some sort of mental illness. I've missed this, I appologise
His family claimed he didn't suffer from mental illness. That doesn't mean he didn't suffer from some type of it. Yatim conducted an Internet search from his phone on easy ways to commit suicide. I'd say he had issues.
Roaming around a street car with a knife in his hand and his dick out while ranting nonsense would pretty much convince me that he was nuts.
Wikipedia:
Shooting
At 10:30 pm on July 26, Sammy Yatim boarded a subway,[11] and then later boarded a streetcar around 11:45pm[12] on the 505 Dundas line. Sometime afterwards, he drew his 12 cm (4.7 in) switchblade knife,[4] attacked passenger Bridgette McGregor[5] and told passengers to remain on the streetcar, reportedly acting aggressively towards other passengers.[13] Frightened, the passengers promptly tried to escape. Yatim then revised his demands, ordering everyone off the streetcar. He began to approach the driver of the vehicle but stopped to shout obscenities at the crowd gathering outside. The driver of the streetcar remained at the controls until shortly before police arrived.[14]
Passenger and witness Aaron Li-Hill said that upon boarding the streetcar he initially noticed Yatim sitting at the back, across from a group of teenage girls.[14] He later heard giggling from the back of the streetcar followed by a scream, then saw Yatim brandishing a knife as the girls ran past him toward the front doors.[14] According to witness Jessica Doyle, another passenger on the streetcar, Yatim seemed irate, mentally unstable, and oblivious to her presence as he walked directly past her aboard the streetcar.[15] Doyle reported that as he walked past her, Yatim was holding his exposed genitals in his left hand and a knife in his right hand.[15] According to Melody Garcia, another passenger, Yatim "took his penis out with one hand and a knife in another."[14]
Police arrived at the scene. At the front of the vehicle, Constable James Forcillo of the Toronto Police Service called for a Taser, believing the situation "could be contained".[13] According to videos of the incident, police asked Yatim to drop the knife and warned him not to "take one step in this direction". After Yatim took a step forward, Forcillo fired nine shots; an initial salvo of three followed by an additional six several seconds later. Approximately 30 seconds later, Forcillo's Sergeant, Dan Pravica Tasered Yatim.[13][16][17]
It was later determined that eight of the nine shots fired hit Yatim, and the initial salvo of three shots had killed Yatim almost instantly. Surveillance video indicates that Yatim was lying on the deck when the last six shots were fired.[16][18]
Yatim was transported and later pronounced dead at St. Michael's Hospital.[19]
It is unclear what provoked Yatim's behaviour the night he was shot. His family claimed that he had no history of mental illness or violence.[24] He had “moderate to moderately high levels of ecstasy in his system at the time of his death, as well as marijuana and a trace amount of cocaine" according to the autopsy report.[25]
You should watch out. You might get culled yourself by someone who thinks your views are too extreme to be sane.
The murder charge wasn't warranted. Neither was shooting Yatim after he was dead, so the Manslaughter charge was warranted.
Should be a picture of him in the urban dictionary for rogue cop. A coward, a killer & piece of shit that should be behind bars for life...& a punch in the face every week as a reminder of how senseless it was to kill a 18 year old mentally ill/ high kid
