Consequences for those who refuse C-19 vaccination
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LMAO, read the posts and ask yourself who won and lost! I shall leave it at that because I don't want to give you the opportunity to cry and report.
You mean like this one?
All the articles do not support what he is saying. The vaccines do offer protection as mentioned in the articles.
The first artcile is from feb3rd before any studies on infection or transmission potential were released but it mentions an early study of Astra-Zenica that says" The researchers found that the vaccine cut the number of cases with detectable virus by 67% after a single standard dose, and wrote that this shows "the potential for a substantial reduction in transmission".
Second article dated April 13th is about a study currently taking place to see exactly how effective the Moderna vaccine is at preventing infection and transmission using 12,000 college students.
But yet it still states " Another study in 4,000 health care and essential workers in the U.S. provided additional evidence that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines protect against all infections, including those without symptoms, Stat News reported."
Third article dated Feb 18th answers questions with wwhat they knew at that point about the vaccines buth still in the opening paragraph it says
" Ten vaccines have proved effective at protecting people from developing symptoms of Covid-19, the disease that can result from infection with SARS-CoV-2. Less is known about how well some of the various inoculations prevent people from getting an asymptomatic infection or passing the virus on to others. But preliminary evidence suggests that two vaccines, one from Moderna Inc. and another from Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE, are highly protective against the spread of the virus in addition to symptoms, and another from AstraZeneca Plc does a reasonably good job."
Fourth article dated Jan 8th is about how people can still get infected after being vaccinated because as mentioned it is not 100% effective and cites an example of someone contracting covid one week after their first shot. It goes on to explain why this is.
The fifth is February 19th and like the above article goes on to explain how and why some peple still get covid after being vaccinated but as it said in the article" "There are going to be some people who are not protected, even by two doses of the vaccine, but they should have more mild disease," said Moss. "... The vaccines are really highly protective against severe disease, so even those who get COVID-19 after two doses of vaccine are much more likely to have mild disease."
The rule in any debate is the second you name call or insult you loose so you’ve lost
Were you confused by the wording of my post?
A transmissible disease was eradicated by a vaccine that was 95 % effective, meaning you do not need a vaccine to be 100% effective to work.
You just need enough people to get vaccinated for it to work.
You can’t compare the two smallpox is not easily transmittable compared to Covid my original statement is you’re never going to Eradicate Covid it’s always going to be there. something like what 10,000 Americans fully vaccinated have gotten Covid And that’s only so far that number will grow and when the variants get factored in who knows
The rule in any debate is to have the correct information and facts to back up your statements, therefore, you lost, sorry!
I don't know how to simplify my post any further for you to understand what I am trying to say.
Your trying to say at 95% sp was eradicated but COVID is not the same it’s far easier to transmit you can have/ carry it without knowing and you can still catch and transmit once your vaccinated
You would love that wouldn't you since you can't win a debate with your false claims and nonsense.
Could be but I’m not worried I’m going to stick around so you can call me names and lob insults and Lose the discussion each time
I thought it was if you bring up Hitler. Quite frankly makes it hard to discuss a lot of aspects of WWII
If you can't see why people would have legit reasons to insult you... where are you on the spectrum. I mean really. You literally purposely try to piss off people at the very least. Constantly post far out there inflammatory shit without evidence that one would expect to take seriously.
You kinda of bring it on yourself.
There are two ways to stop bullies. One is to try to convince them to stop, which doesn't work. The other is to convince people to stop being faggy twats and the best way to do that... Bullies. -Jimmy Carr
Ah, you need to get a life eh??? I can help you with a great list of Netflix shows that can entertain you and keep you entertained or recommend some reading material that may really help you out. I'm here for you.
I know someone personally who is an anti vaxxer. We are friends actually but when she gets on the topic. Oy vey.
She will post something from say Natural News claiming that the FDA or CDC whatever is saying the flu vaccine doesn't work and bringing out the usual tropes.
I point out that all the links to the article does not claim that anyone said anything like that. All the articles quoted say you should take the vaccine even though it's less effective this year. As for the tropes I went through each one. Pointing out the difference between the mercury compound in vaccines vs say fish, pointing out that the toxiciity was in the dose. The article made a big point about using expensive testing measures to find that mercury was in a vaccine sample, I was able to find that information in less than a minute on google from official sources the article implying it was a big secret. That Aluminum is found in many foods as is formaldehyde [although I prefer casualdehyde] So on and so forth. Everything in the article was either a lie.
A normal person would react to this by looking into their sources. I know I get very disappointed when I encounter such shit. Nope, double down, move the goal posts, change the argument. So we are just going to overlook that your first source was nothing but lies. Fine, this new bit of information is wrong. Right move the goal posts, more bullshit and so on. She keeps providing studies which if you read them actually say the opposite of her position. She has this friend who does the same thing.
I don't tell her to shut the fuck up because she is a friend, but I've really wanted to. Now I just change the topic right away. Some rando on the internet I don't feel so inclined to be nice.
I know these bible cultists, they literally believe every word in the bible is 100% true with no contadictions or errors. Even when you point out errors, they dismiss them as wrong or claim if you have faith you would understand. They believe the way to deal with rejection is to burn someone forever and this is an act of good. Most of them are pretty chill, they know I am not interested and we chat about other things but this one cultist just won't leave me alone.
Respect needs to be earned. There are too many people who demand respect because they have a pulse. There are also too many people who are so divorced from reality that they don't seem to realize how out to lunch they are. I mean if you must be a flat earther, or believe that vaccines don't work, that Trump is honest or that Justin Beiber isn't history's greatest monster, that's one thing, but to be surprised that people think you are insane?
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