Ontario pauses use of AstraZeneca vaccine due to increasing blood clot concerns
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Like them - & all of us - they will certainly "develop long term health problems in the future", namely death.
It's conceivable the AZ shot may influence a few to "develop long term health problems in the future", but is there any evidence to support the view that it will do that?
It's possible Trudeau may be struck by lightning this year. But how likely is it?
It's possible Trudeau may be seriously injured in a car accident this year. But how likely is it? Should he avoid cars?
It's also possible the vaccine has saved his life.
It's also possible the vaccine has saved him from developing long term health problems related to "long covid".
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" "With two million combined doses of Pfizer and Moderna arriving weekly through May, and 2.4 million combined doses per week scheduled for June, Canada will soon be “swimming in vaccine,” Morris said."
Hallelujah!
"The 20 million (AZ) doses on order from an American plant should be donated to India and other countries, he said."
That may very well occur.
" “If we could get a billion doses of AstraZeneca to India, I would do it in a heartbeat, because so many people are dying. And yes, some of those people will die (from vaccine-induced blood clotting) but you’re going to be saving millions and millions of lives,” said Morris, a professor of medicine at the University of Toronto and infectious diseases doctor at Sinai Health and University Health Network."
"This shouldn’t be construed as buyer’s remorse, he said. People should not feel as if they were somehow “hoodwinked” into getting AstraZeneca. Every authorized COVID vaccine in Canada has been “absolutely life-saving.” A new analysis just out from Public Health England suggests a single dose of either the AstraZeneca or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is 80 per cent effective at preventing death from COVID. That rises to 97 per cent after two doses of Pfizer."
"... When COVID is raging, “it’s a total no-brainer (to use AstraZeneca) because, even if you are adding that small risk of harm, it’s outweighed by the benefit,” Morris said. "
"... “The chances that there will be an issue with mixing vaccines are slim to none,” said Dr. Allison McGeer, a medical microbiologist and infectious diseases specialist at Toronto’s Sinai Health System. “There are a lot of things keeping me awake at night. This is not one of them.” "
"...“If you got your AstraZeneca vaccine more than a month ago, that’s a good decision with a good outcome,” she said. “I know all sorts of people — my husband, my sister, lots of people — who got the AstraZeneca vaccine and it was a good decision at the time."
" “This is the thing about pandemics. New diseases. Things change. The right thing to do changes over time.” "
calgaryherald.com
Hallelujah!
"The 20 million (AZ) doses on order from an American plant should be donated to India and other countries, he said."
That may very well occur.
" “If we could get a billion doses of AstraZeneca to India, I would do it in a heartbeat, because so many people are dying. And yes, some of those people will die (from vaccine-induced blood clotting) but you’re going to be saving millions and millions of lives,” said Morris, a professor of medicine at the University of Toronto and infectious diseases doctor at Sinai Health and University Health Network."
"This shouldn’t be construed as buyer’s remorse, he said. People should not feel as if they were somehow “hoodwinked” into getting AstraZeneca. Every authorized COVID vaccine in Canada has been “absolutely life-saving.” A new analysis just out from Public Health England suggests a single dose of either the AstraZeneca or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is 80 per cent effective at preventing death from COVID. That rises to 97 per cent after two doses of Pfizer."
"... When COVID is raging, “it’s a total no-brainer (to use AstraZeneca) because, even if you are adding that small risk of harm, it’s outweighed by the benefit,” Morris said. "
"... “The chances that there will be an issue with mixing vaccines are slim to none,” said Dr. Allison McGeer, a medical microbiologist and infectious diseases specialist at Toronto’s Sinai Health System. “There are a lot of things keeping me awake at night. This is not one of them.” "
"...“If you got your AstraZeneca vaccine more than a month ago, that’s a good decision with a good outcome,” she said. “I know all sorts of people — my husband, my sister, lots of people — who got the AstraZeneca vaccine and it was a good decision at the time."
" “This is the thing about pandemics. New diseases. Things change. The right thing to do changes over time.” "
'Very little excuse' to continue to use AstraZeneca in Canada: infectious diseases specialist
It’s time to halt AstraZeneca shots in Canada, except for people 40 or older in hotspots, says Andrew Morris, a doctor on Ontario’s COVID-19 science advisory…
calgaryherald.com
one thing I haven’t heard and can’t find when I googled is how long after the vaccine dose have blood clots symptoms appeared?
It may be wise to quell concerns from those that have taken AZ already that they are in the clear after so many days......
It may be wise to quell concerns from those that have taken AZ already that they are in the clear after so many days......
WTF did I tell you, Lefties??? I said the smart thing was to wait it out a bit to see how bad the side-effects are.
Supposedly the odds of getting blood clots from Zeneca have been lowered from 1 in a million to 1 in 60,000.
And the clots are serious too, you're probably gonna be stuck on taking Heparin bloodthinners for the rest of your life
Supposedly the odds of getting blood clots from Zeneca have been lowered from 1 in a million to 1 in 60,000.
And the clots are serious too, you're probably gonna be stuck on taking Heparin bloodthinners for the rest of your life
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It seems they have been reported 4-28 days out. So basically the first month. (That number may shift as more data comes in.)
Called it 
calgaryherald.com
'Very little excuse' to continue to use AstraZeneca in Canada: infectious diseases specialist
It’s time to halt AstraZeneca shots in Canada, except for people 40 or older in hotspots, says Andrew Morris, a doctor on Ontario’s COVID-19 science advisory…
calgaryherald.com
Very possible.
Lower numbers, more rickety supply with a flood of Pfizer and Moderna expected, and a rare but consequential side effect means you hold off on it.
If the numbers go up, it will be back to using AZ.
AZ was least effective from Day 1 anyways which is why majority shopped around long before health issues came out
Holy Fuck !! How does 1 / 1,000,000 make it all the way to 1/ 60,000 ???
How does the UK and 30,000,000 vaccines given in the EU not figure out 1/60,000 before we do ????
What is so different - could we be getting the borderline QA rejects ?
I did find a few details
1) the US manufactures AstraZeneca - but they only export it. They have not used it themselves.
2) This scary quote:
Close to two thirds of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine imported into Canada came from a U.S. factory that American authorities say was rife with quality-control issues, Health Canada confirmed Thursday.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said this week it will not allow the release of any vaccine made under contract at the Emergent Biosolutions plant in Baltimore, Md. — and still in the U.S.— until it’s been tested further.
But Health Canada said AstraZeneca has assured the government a contamination event at the Emergent plant that led to a recent FDA inspection had no impact on the 1.5 million doses of its vaccine shipped here.
“All products in Canada met authorized specifications before they were released to the market,” Anna Madison, a spokeswoman for the department, said in a statement.
While I think people should be jailed if they knowingly brought in suspect vaccine in order to curry political favour, I fully intend on getting my second Pfizer shot when offered.
Link: https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...nt-accused-by-fda-of-quality-control-problems
How does the UK and 30,000,000 vaccines given in the EU not figure out 1/60,000 before we do ????
What is so different - could we be getting the borderline QA rejects ?
I did find a few details
1) the US manufactures AstraZeneca - but they only export it. They have not used it themselves.
2) This scary quote:
Close to two thirds of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine imported into Canada came from a U.S. factory that American authorities say was rife with quality-control issues, Health Canada confirmed Thursday.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said this week it will not allow the release of any vaccine made under contract at the Emergent Biosolutions plant in Baltimore, Md. — and still in the U.S.— until it’s been tested further.
But Health Canada said AstraZeneca has assured the government a contamination event at the Emergent plant that led to a recent FDA inspection had no impact on the 1.5 million doses of its vaccine shipped here.
“All products in Canada met authorized specifications before they were released to the market,” Anna Madison, a spokeswoman for the department, said in a statement.
While I think people should be jailed if they knowingly brought in suspect vaccine in order to curry political favour, I fully intend on getting my second Pfizer shot when offered.
Link: https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...nt-accused-by-fda-of-quality-control-problems
Turdeau is safe because he doesn’t have a brain to clot. You can tell by the way he talks off script that he is challenged.
It was never 1 in a million. The UK/EU was seeing rates around 1/100,000. If you look at the error bars on the Ontario numbers, that's still in the range of possibility. They think it is lower, closer to the 1/60,000 range.
The numbers really haven't shifted very much. What has shifted is how out of control the virus is in the community and our supply of other vaccines.
In these conditions, it makes sense to shelve Astra-Zeneca.
IF we were seeing numbers like we were last month or heaven forbid like they are in India, we would be using Astra Zeneca without hesitation.
What if instead of developing health problems TwoPlanes develops superpowers. I bet you all would be pretty upset if you passed off on the chance of that.
SpiderTrudeau SpiderTrudeau does whatever a SpiderTrudeau does. Can he swing from a web, no he can't he's just a Trudeau, watch out...
Or maybe
That's the life.
SpiderTrudeau SpiderTrudeau does whatever a SpiderTrudeau does. Can he swing from a web, no he can't he's just a Trudeau, watch out...
Or maybe
That's the life.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ontario-astrazeneca-vaccine-bloor-clot-concerns-203158221.html: Dr. Dirk Huyer, coordinator of the provincial COVID-19 outbreak response, stressed that while this has been considered a rare event, the adverse effect is "severe." Duh! The adverse effect is severe?? I'll tell you what he really means, "the adverse effect is fucking death." Jesus! Now they come clean and tell the public. I'm just glad I'm still waiting for the clinical trials to finally weed out the killer jabs from the jabs that just make you sick.
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