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Fine!
I have no problem using it!

Do youself a favor and try out Linux.
Open your mind. You don't know what you are missing!
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Then try out Compiz Fusion to see what features Apple will steal to incorporate into their OS in the future....
You sound like the JW's that used to knock on my door in the past. They don't any more though.
 

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You sound like the JW's that used to knock on my door in the past. They don't any more though.
Naw!!!
If anything the Apple cultists sound much more like JW's!....


Just stop in an Apple Store and see....
 

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Hey! Have you found that market share number yet?

The next time the upper New York chapter of the Linux Users Group have their meeting in the washroom at McDonalds take a group snapshot for us, will ya? Some people might say this thread is useless without pictures.
 

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At least Linux doesn't get BANNED from whole countries like some unsafe Crapple stuff!!!....


Israel bans imports of Apple iPad
Now we both know that story has little do with quality and a lot to do with NIH, nothing more. Every other industrialized country in the world says they works fine, but Israel says it doesn't in their country. Who's kidding who? You're looking really silly Woodrow, but we're getting use to that by now. It wouldn't have anything to do with Netty's gob smack in the US the other week. Would it. You're reaching Woodie.

Shall we start a pool on how long it takes to clear this up. I don't think too long.
 

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Perhaps Israel found the Apple defect before everyone else, eh...
 

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Folks aren't in the dark. They just don't care about it. Lots of people I know are aware of Linux, they just don't care about it.
Yep. a lot of the people around me know about Linux but they don't care enough about it to use it. I do know a couple of users but even then one guy just has a Linux box for his web development projects.

As I've posted before, I now doubt that Linux will ever catch on as a consumer OS. It's gotten almost a decade of help from MS' garbage and it's still only recently climbed to a 1% market share. It's had its chance but the market is passing it by.
 

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Linux is not in the market!
It's free....
 

blackrock13

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Linux is not in the market!
It's free....
When some thing that sells for nothing and can't gather more than 1% percent of the market, there's no interest in it
and when you explain it by saying it's not in the market because'it's free' you just sound really juvenile and do nothing for your argument.

If something i free and said to be as good if not better than MS and yet can't be given away, then there's something that the consumers don't like. You can have the greatest widget in the world, but if the world doesn't get them, then it's worthless and useless.
 

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There you(s) go again

LOL!
What an Apple fanboi repeating the same ole same ole, ad nauseum, after gulping the Apple Kool Aid, or is that Apple cider?....

You both have to be a couple Mac salesmen regurgitating the same Mac talking points over and over and over like they do in Apple Stores pitching for a sale....LOL!
 

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Actually, you're the one regurgitating your Linux mantra of "it's free so it's the best" all over the threads here.

Hey, wanna make a wager on which OS is going to grow faster over the next couple of years? ;)
 

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When some thing that sells for nothing and can't gather more than 1% percent of the market, there's no interest in it
and when you explain it by saying it's not in the market because'it's free' you just sound really juvenile and do nothing for your argument.

If something i free and said to be as good if not better than MS and yet can't be given away, then there's something that the consumers don't like. You can have the greatest widget in the world, but if the world doesn't get them, then it's worthless and useless.
Actually, I'm a Debian based KDEer, and I prefer Kwin's 3D capabilities because they are well integrated into KDE-- But on to the quote.

I've contributed to several Free as in Freedom (and Beer) software projects and one of them was even 'high profile'.

Desktop and laptop market share is basically irrelevant. The only real notions that matters in Free and Open Source software is the notion of a contributor, how easy a project makes it for people to contribute, and the ability to get that software onto a given platform. The high profile project I worked on basically worked on everything-- Linux, MacOSX, the BSDs, and Windows-- When you tracked the actual downloads they worked in the reverse order: Windows, MacOSX, then Linux (though it was packaged for Linux distros and the numbers would fail to reflect that). The funny thing is that the actual contributions to the project went Linux, MacOSX, Windows, with the annoyingness (Irrational demands, failure to read, thinking people could be fired, etc.) of users going in download order.

Linux and MacOSX both have their fair share of irrational fanboys. The differentiator is that the Linux fanboy is beholden to nobody, and can actually meaningfully contribute-- Code, art, documentation, translations, web design, bug reports and triage, announcements, etc, and if the project is free software as opposed to open source or closed source nobody can ever take that away from you. If you're a Mac fanboy that's all you can ever really be, and you're beholden to that company's continued success.

That fun fact is augmented because if you're a skilled Linux guy you can parley that into a Linux Admin job, or any other proper *NIX or BSD variant. If you're a core developer of a core project some big company will hire you to do what you do. I say this as somebody who makes their money in *NIX land... Picking up Linux in the 90s was the bast thing I ever did in my life, career wise anyway. Fark my formal education... Forget the desktop-- Everything really small and interesting runs something POSIX like, and everything big and interesting runs a POSIX and a *NIX. (And don't even get me started on the app store, it's conditions and where the money goes, and the ridiculously closed nature of apple hardware.)

Even if WoodPeckr never contributes anything more than general advocacy-- If Canocal goes broke, or Ubuntu jumps the shark, he can shrug and switch to his new favourite distro. As far as Linux being 'hard' goes, as somebody who was there in the 'bad old days' it's more than fair to say that if you can't install and figure out *any* major Linux distro you're not fit to install any OS or software ever. Now when people say 'hard' they mean different-- That's the same thing that killed Vista (but that's a different story involving a different userbase and tech people).
 

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Even if WoodPeckr never contributes anything more than general advocacy-- If Canocal goes broke, or Ubuntu jumps the shark, he can shrug and switch to his new favourite distro. As far as Linux being 'hard' goes, as somebody who was there in the 'bad old days' it's more than fair to say that if you can't install and figure out *any* major Linux distro you're not fit to install any OS or software ever. Now when people say 'hard' they mean different--
Basically that is my message.

That said I must admit to taking much delight in tweaking those thin skinned Apple fanbois who believe Mac is akin the the 'second coming of Christ'....with all the irrational exuberance they display for all things Apple as they hop up & down for Messiah Stevo....


If you want to break free from M$ & Apple, Linux in any of it's ~100 flavors is there for you. Have known about Linux since the 90s when CL ruled and was put off by that. Today it's a whole other ball game after vast improvements have been made in all camps basically. Not being beholden to either M$ or Apple is a big plus to! You have freedom to do as YOU please, not what some company dictates to you. Better, superior security was another big factor in selecting Linux and being FREE was just a bonus.
 

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well options the same thing goes for osx .... any skilled osx user can pop into any nix/bsd job.... since it is bsd .... so many open source programs grew because of open source development on the mac.. puppet .... radmind .... caldev...... zero config ....... just to name a few i have used and contributed too ....... and these were open source and across all NIX platforms ..... Every tool has its use ....
 

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..... Every tool has its use ....
Indeed they do and the truth is all are getting better.

As much as I dislike M$, it looks like they hit a 'grand slam' with Win7.....


Just installed W7 in a friends PC.
Took <1 hour to complete install and updates, something unheard of in the past. Install was flawless.
 

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Actually, you're the one regurgitating your Linux mantra of "it's free so it's the best" all over the threads here.

Hey, wanna make a wager on which OS is going to grow faster over the next couple of years? ;)
Don't hold your breath. Remember he's a 10th level cheapskate.
 

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Yet it's true. Remember you mantra. Just in case you forgot. 'It's free'
What's wrong with that???!!!!????

Given a choice most will opt for free than having to pay, NO???....
 
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