Commander of CFB Trenton charged with murder, sexual assualt, and home invasion
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Whether it was a Part I inquiry (a Commission of Inquiry established under s.2), or a Part II inquiry (departmental investigation established under s.6) is frankly irrelevant to the point at hand -- it was an external and independent review, not a DND review. (By the way, I should point out that I had previously listed the commissioners as a judge, a journalist and a public servant. I should note that the public servant stepped down almost immediately and another judge was added to the commission.)
But to answer your question, the Somalia inquiry was indeed a Part I inquiry.
http://www.dnd.ca/somalia/vol5/images/5a1p3e.jpg
For those who don't feel like going to the link, here's the important part:
"The Committee of the Privy Council, on the recommendation of the Minister of National Defence, advise that a Commission do issue under Part I of the Inquiries Act and under the Great Seal of Canada...."
Look, I don't like insulting people on terb, the way you do, it is a violation of terb policy, but your inane behavior is getting pretty close to calling for it.
Re-read what you quoted.
I set out the conditions under which the military would be at fault. I did not say that those conditions had been met. I wrote that in response to someone else saying the military is just like any other employer. It is not.
Nowhere have I alleged or asserted that the military is guilty of any such thing in this case so please shut your pie hole and crawl back into your wretched cave.
I stand by that statement: The military is attractive to people who want to kill, and trains them to be able to do that, and to handle the emotions involved in doing that. This does not make every soldier a murderer plainly, but it does mean that the military has a higher duty of care than other organizations to be on watch for deviant behavior.
Please stop "reading between the lines" by which you plainly mean "inventing bullshit that fuji did not actually say and does not actually believe but it's fun to play troll by pretending he did".
I would also ask that you quit with the childish insults and slurs and adopt a more civil tone.
More childish tripe. Grow up.
Specifically what slur are you talking about? Please quote me directly and do not add your own "interpretation".
I have asserted NOTHING about the case of Williams. I have laid out the conditions under which the military would have some guilt in his case. I have no reason to believe those conditions have been met and I have stated that the assumption should be the military is innocent in his case.
Again I have not asserted the military has any guilt in his case, simply repudiated those who said that such guilt was impossible or without precedent by way of example.
Under this logic all one would need do is add the words "is it possible that" to any sort of baseless scurrilous speculation to avoid difficulty, good luck with that.
At no point anywhere on this thread have I done that. I have consistently said that there is no evidence of any guilt on the part of the military in the Williams case and that the military should be presumed innocent unless some evidence arises.
The only reason why you might believe I've said otherwise is by reading the libelous bile that Kingfisher has posted in which he pretends I hold views opposite of the views that I hold.
Now they're probably just playing harps for background music.Reading this thread, I can only imagine what Lancs and DQ would have to contribute......
jwm
Warning: This post is NOT about Fuji.
A thousand civilians march to CFB Trenton Saturday to show their support for our troops and their new commander at the base.
A thousand civilians march to CFB Trenton Saturday to show their support for our troops and their new commander at the base.
You are obnoxious. You obvioulsy don't have any reason to claim I hold the views you ascribe to me, none whatsoever, it's your own little fantasy. If you had any reason to believe your own lies you would by now, after having been challenged repeatedly, quoted something to justify your statements.
You just make stuff up whenever it pleases you.
WARNING: This post is not about Fuji.
Speaking of Global, are they having difficulty broadcasting in high definition (channel 517)? It happens so often that their videos are just a bunch of random pixels.
Here's what really happened here kingfisher:
-- You lost yet another debate with me
-- It was on a topic you view as controversial, I raised difficult questions and they make you uncomfortable
-- You ASSUME only a certain type of person would argue a controversial topic
-- Therefore you label me as that type of person
It makes you feel better apparently, it means you don't have to seriously consider that your viewpoint is wrong.
You are just like the people who have asserted I'm Jewish, or Chinese, or left wing, or right wing, or Japanese, or Islamic, or whatever other things I've been called on this board by people losing debates.
At this point you've spent pages with your ridiculous "only someone who hates the military would" thesis, which is a wrong thesis, one you made up to make yourself feel better.
-- You lost yet another debate with me
-- It was on a topic you view as controversial, I raised difficult questions and they make you uncomfortable
-- You ASSUME only a certain type of person would argue a controversial topic
-- Therefore you label me as that type of person
It makes you feel better apparently, it means you don't have to seriously consider that your viewpoint is wrong.
You are just like the people who have asserted I'm Jewish, or Chinese, or left wing, or right wing, or Japanese, or Islamic, or whatever other things I've been called on this board by people losing debates.
At this point you've spent pages with your ridiculous "only someone who hates the military would" thesis, which is a wrong thesis, one you made up to make yourself feel better.
Warning: This post is not about FUJI.
Did anybody catch the Global special on Russel Williams (is he still a Colonel?) last night? I missed it because I got fixated on watching an exciting curling match. It is scary that someone like Williams could have been at large for so long before he was caught. How many more like him out there?
Did anybody catch the Global special on Russel Williams (is he still a Colonel?) last night? I missed it because I got fixated on watching an exciting curling match. It is scary that someone like Williams could have been at large for so long before he was caught. How many more like him out there?
Maybe scarier that someone (no, not Someone!) could get so caught up in curling. Yikes!!!!!
jwm
I know, I know. I heard "Rock" and I was trying to figure out what in blazes they were doing with those round things and small brooms. Insert confused "smilie" here. P.S. Is it true that curlers and those who watch them are completely harmless?
KF, keep up with the insults and you're going to get yourself banned.
As for facts I note that I have supported all my points with external references to sources while you have offered us only blather and hot air. You have contributed exactly nothing to the debate, in fact, you have diminished it by resorting to childish insults.
I'll give you a chance to redact your infantile post before referring it to a moderator for review.
As for facts I note that I have supported all my points with external references to sources while you have offered us only blather and hot air. You have contributed exactly nothing to the debate, in fact, you have diminished it by resorting to childish insults.
I'll give you a chance to redact your infantile post before referring it to a moderator for review.
