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Climate Fraud Exposed: CO2 Doesn’t Rise Up, Trap And Retain Heat

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"As the temperature of the atmosphere rises, more water is evaporated from ground storage (rivers, oceans, reservoirs, soil). Because the air is warmer, the absolute humidity can be higher (in essence, the air is able to 'hold' more water when it's warmer), leading to more water vapor in the atmosphere. As a greenhouse gas, the higher concentration of water vapor is then able to absorb more thermal IR energy radiated from the Earth, thus further warming the atmosphere. The warmer atmosphere can then hold more water vapor and so on and so on. This is referred to as a 'positive feedback loop'"

You will notice,... not once was CO2 mentioned.
It was mentioned in the part you left out, and in the link to CO2 at the top of that page. Your dishonesty knows no bounds.

Precisely measured the effects of .1 % of .04% of a gas in the atmosphere has on the whole planets temperature
They precisely measured the warming it produced.

I note that your link that you quoted from, in the text you omitted, went on to say the levels and effects is CO2 are better measured and better understood that water vapor.

(Maybe you missed it because they spelled CO2 out in full instead of using the abbreviation "CO2")
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Oh Crap! I was supposed to be impressed? Doesn't that require something impressive to happen?
You just broke fuji's heart. All his 18,000 posts have been for nothing
 

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And in fact that's one of the consequences, increased heat over the ocean results in bigger and more powerful storms. Basically the extra energy feeds the hurricanes
Care to explain why the US has experienced an almost 12 year drought up till now in landfall hurricanes, and also why total amount of hurricanes over Atlantic is about normal??

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...hy-this-is-terrifying/?utm_term=.39595c72e619

A major hurricane hasn’t hit the U.S. Gulf or East Coast in more than a decade. A major hurricane is one containing maximum sustained winds of at least 111 mph and classified as Category 3 or higher on the 1-5 Saffir-Simpson wind scale.

Florida hasn’t seen a hurricane of any intensity since 2005’s Wilma, which is shocking considering it averages about seven hurricane landfalls per decade.

Scientists have no solid explanation for the lack of hurricane landfalls. The number of storms forming in the Atlantic over the past decade or so has been close to normal, but many have remained over the ocean or hit other countries rather than the United States
 

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Anything less than thirty years is weather, not climate. Droughts are an expected result of global warming so not sure why you would think that's even a data point
You didnt even read the article, did you. Its not talking about a regular drought, its talking a bout a HURRICANE DROUGHT!!!
 

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Right, and do you see a considerable upward trend since 1950??

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-content/sotc/tropical-cyclones/2012/annual/NAT_storms_2012.png

I see a very slight increase, but its not statistically significant, plus there's no evidence that hurricanes are increasing in strength. In fact 1970 to 2000 they actually started going down
I'm not sure you understand the phrase "statistically significant", can you share what distribution you used, what confidence interval your chose, and how you arrived at that conclusion?
 

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Every time you post this you`show you think your bias is more significant than actual science.
,..."self appointed unemployable experts" ...

I have never put that phrase in a response to one of your posts,...so you have to keep that in mind when you see it.

But I do have some bias when it comes to "experts" who are backed by the UN for example,...doesn't add a lot of credibility.
 

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I'm not sure you understand the phrase "statistically significant", can you share what distribution you used, what confidence interval your chose, and how you arrived at that conclusion?
Yeah, nice attempt at trying to obfuscate the whole thread fuji.

You said there was "considerable" global warming. None of the hurricane stats seem to reflect that there's a "considerable" increase in either hurricanes, or the strength of hurricanes.

And another thing fuji, you took some college course in statistics, and now you think you're some kind of PhD in the whole thing, which makes you look even more laughable then you were before (if thats even possible)
 

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It was mentioned in the part you left out, and in the link to CO2 at the top of that page. Your dishonesty knows no bounds.
Word for word fuji,...
"As the temperature of the atmosphere rises, more water is evaporated from ground storage (rivers, oceans, reservoirs, soil). Because the air is warmer, the absolute humidity can be higher (in essence, the air is able to 'hold' more water when it's warmer), leading to more water vapor in the atmosphere. As a greenhouse gas, the higher concentration of water vapor is then able to absorb more thermal IR energy radiated from the Earth, thus further warming the atmosphere. The warmer atmosphere can then hold more water vapor and so on and so on. This is referred to as a 'positive feedback loop'"

And you lied about there being any reference to CO2 preceding that explanation,...Your dishonesty knows no bounds.

They precisely measured the warming it produced.
Again,...impossible.

I note that your link that you quoted from, in the text you omitted, went on to say the levels and effects is CO2 are better measured and better understood that water vapor.
Another lie,...I did NOT omit anything from that explanation.

But good to see that you have finally confirmed that you self proclaimed unemployable experts have no fricken clue what's going on with the planets climate,...they don't have a good understanding of the most prominent green house gas, that has existed from the beginning, and has allowed man to survive, and continue to survive.

But in a few decades they suddenly have a better understanding of how CO2 might effect the climate,... :bounce:
 

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Word for word fuji,...
"As the temperature of the atmosphere rises, more water is evaporated from ground storage (rivers, oceans, reservoirs, soil). Because the air is warmer, the absolute humidity can be higher (in essence, the air is able to 'hold' more water when it's warmer), leading to more water vapor in the atmosphere. As a greenhouse gas, the higher concentration of water vapor is then able to absorb more thermal IR energy radiated from the Earth, thus further warming the atmosphere. The warmer atmosphere can then hold more water vapor and so on and so on. This is referred to as a 'positive feedback loop'"

And you lied about there being any reference to CO2 preceding that explanation,...Your dishonesty knows no bounds.


Again,...impossible.



Another lie,...I did NOT omit anything from that explanation.

But good to see that you have finally confirmed that you self proclaimed unemployable experts have no fricken clue what's going on with the planets climate,...they don't have a good understanding of the most prominent green house gas, that has existed from the beginning, and has allowed man to survive, and continue to survive.

But in a few decades they suddenly have a better understanding of how CO2 might effect the climate,... :bounce:
Why don't you take the time to read all the material that NASA has made available to you? Instead of hl getting defensive about your ignorance you could do something about it.

You should also go read the Nature study and learn how they measured the effects of CO2.
 

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Why don't you take the time to read all the material that NASA has made available to you? Instead of hl getting defensive about your ignorance you could do something about it.

You should also go read the Nature study and learn how they measured the effects of CO2.
Why would I,...you can't even make an intelligent comment on any of the points I've already presented,...you simply just reply with more childish insulting,...and nothing more.

They didn't measure the effects of CO2 on the planet's climate,...they came up with another theory,...and then set out to prove they were correct..

And I'm not being defensive,...simply waiting for you to make any intelligent comment on my points,...which you have NOT.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Global warming has become like a religion. If you don't play along with the preachers you are an outcast, and you become the spawn of Satan
 

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,..."self appointed unemployable experts" ...

I have never put that phrase in a response to one of your posts,...so you have to keep that in mind when you see it.....
Actually you have and you know how badly I'll shit on you. You have repeatedly claimed the experts don't know what they're talking about based on nothing. But sure, if you want to be the modern version of the flat earth society then go right ahead. It just shows what a farce you are every time you try and pretend that science supports your view.
 

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Global warming has become like a religion. If you don't play along with the preachers you are an outcast, and you become the spawn of Satan
I can see the comparison. End of the world. Repent and change your ways. Rules how to act. Very superficial though considering that science is based on evidence, not just faith.

But despite the doomsday hysteria of some radical proponents, the science heavily backs up the fact that human produced CO2 has a major role in the planet warming. The only debate is how much, how quickly, and how negative the changes will be if we don't do something.
 
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