Not the first time that has been said, been happening for recorded history.
We will have to stop the water vapour positive feed back loop, if we want to control the planets temperature any time soon.
Of coarse we would have to control El Niño first.
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We will have to stop the water vapour positive feed back loop, if we want to control the planets temperature any time soon.
Of coarse we would have to control El Niño first.
Lying about what I said doesn't help you.Bullshit. You have been posting for more than a year that water vapour feedback -- the dominant greenhouse gas -- has a "reducing" effect on the Earth's temperature:
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-Frankfooter&p=5546249&viewfull=1#post5546249
You then claimed in post 440 that my responses to that idiocy are somehow an attack on the scientific method (as if Fuji actually knows anything about the scientific method).
Explain your thinking.
How did you determine that posts that challenge your statements about man-made global cooling constitute an attack on the scientific method?
It's still a fact that the Nature study proved CO2 warms the planet. It's still a fact that temperatures have been spiking up consistently--you can no longer blame El Nino.
You've lost.
You want to switch the debate to trivialities about who said what on terb because on the actual topic itself you lost the debate over a year ago.
You are the ONLY person who uses the word control, which is not a claim made by anybody. It's your attempt to argue with a straw man because like MF you can't debate the core facts that CO2 is warming the planet, and the temperature is rising as CO2 levels rise.Not the first time that has been said, been happening for recorded history.
We will have to stop the water vapour positive feed back loop, if we want to control the planets temperature any time soon.
Of coarse we would have to control El Niño first.
You want to pretend the debate is about whether man absolutely controls every aspect of the climate when the debate is only whether our CO2 production it warming it.
Should put Fuji on the list too..he support Muslim terrorists rights!Whatever happened to Frankfooter??
Going a bit off subject here,...but anyway, I told him that if he kept supporting terrorists, he would be getting a loud surprise guest appearance from a certain government agency at 4:00 AM.
Haven't heard from him since.
I do not support any terrorist anywhere, unlike sky and Butler.Should put Fuji on the list too..he support Muslim terrorists rights!
Okay. Do you admit that warming temperatures are causing problems for world society?Not the first time that has been said, been happening for recorded history.....
Do you have a way to minimize the impact of H2O?
So why are you so adamantly opposed to controlling the only significant greenhouse gas that we can directly impact?
A fuji post,...
And once again your standard fuji post is a personal attack,...while completely ignoring the text in the post actually discussing the subject.
As far as your statement,... "man absolutely controls every aspect of the climate",... which seems to confirm you finally might be accepting the fact that there are actually other factors controlling the planets climate,...so there still might be hope for,...but not much.
So to recap fuji,...If you want to respond to my post regarding the subject,...lets hear it,...otherwise,...STFU.
Who gives a shit what you think about my use of "control",...nobody.You are the ONLY person who uses the word control, which is not a claim made by anybody. It's your attempt to argue with a straw man because like MF you can't debate the core facts that CO2 is warming the planet, and the temperature is rising as CO2 levels rise.
You want to pretend the debate is about whether man absolutely controls every aspect of the climate when the debate is only whether our CO2 production it warming it.
And once again your standard fuji post is a personal attack,...while completely ignoring the text in the post actually discussing the subject.
As far as your statement,... "man absolutely controls every aspect of the climate",... which seems to confirm you finally might be accepting the fact that there are actually other factors controlling the planets climate,...so there still might be hope for,...but not much.
So to recap fuji,...If you want to respond to my post regarding the subject,...lets hear it,...otherwise,...STFU.
Seems that MIGHT be the case.Okay. Do you admit that warming temperatures are causing problems for world society?
No,... we can't control what triggers the H2O positive feed back loop,...for example El Niño,...which is responsible for 95% of the supposed global warming.Do you have a way to minimize the impact of H2O??
Any more than we can control the historical natural warming of the planet.
I am NOT apposed to controlling,...(don't let fuji see you using that term),... something that would actually make a difference,...other than collecting taxes for corrupt governments and the corrupt UN.So why are you so adamantly opposed to controlling the only significant greenhouse gas that we can directly impact?
You have to understand that I do NOT agree that we have a true understanding of what actually controls the planets climate.
Look at the planets history of natural heat cool cycles,...we are currently recovering from the last cold part of the cycle,...and have NOT reached the high temp. reached in the last high temp. peak.
I know we don't agree on much,...but you are a big cut above a certain childish insulter here,...but maybe that's just too much Pyrat XO rum talking.
But we can agree to disagree.
I see. All the time you've been arguing there is no climate change or that CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas you were really criticizing the way governments are dealing with it.
At least you are now admitting that climate change may be a problem for human society.
At least you are now admitting that climate change may be a problem for human society.
I never made any such statement you senile old fool.As far as your statement,... "man absolutely controls every aspect of the climate",...
Looks like fuji finally has discovered that there are other factors,... other than the source of a gas that is .1% of .04% of the atmosphere,...is controlling the planets temperature,...give fuji a gold star for his forehead.I never made any such statement.
And once again your standard fuji post is a personal attack,...while completely ignoring the text in the post actually discussing the subject.
So to recap fuji,...If you want to respond to my post regarding the subject,...lets hear it,...otherwise,...STFU.
I thought you said you never insulted people, fujiyou senile old fool
Finally discovered what I have been saying for twenty pages in this thread??Looks like fuji finally has discovered that there are other factors,... other than the source of a gas that is .1% of .04% of the atmosphere,...is controlling the planets temperature,...give fuji a gold star for his forehead.
And once again your standard fuji post is a personal attack,...while completely ignoring the text in the post actually discussing the subject.
So to recap fuji,...If you want to respond to my post regarding the subject,...lets hear it,...otherwise,...STFU.
The current rise in temperature is caused by CO2, it is the dominant factor, but not the only factor.
And you have been saying it wrong,...for twenty pages,...Finally discovered what I have been saying for twenty pages in this thread??
The current rise in temperature is caused by CO2, it is the dominant factor, but not the only factor.
Water vapour is responsible for a minimum of 90% of the green house effect,...and thus,...the supposed global warming,... that is really a natural occurrence.
One of which is the water vapour positive feed back loop caused by such NATURAL phenomenon's as El Nino.
But on a positive note, you are acknowledging that there are other factors that control the temperature of the planet, many actually,...other than .1% of a gas that is .04% of the atmosphere.
Fuji, a question for you:
When India and China entered the Industrial Age in the 1990s and therefore almost quadrupled the CO2 output around the world, shouldn't earth have gotten a lot warmer than what it is right now??
When India and China entered the Industrial Age in the 1990s and therefore almost quadrupled the CO2 output around the world, shouldn't earth have gotten a lot warmer than what it is right now??
Answered up thread.And you have been saying it wrong,...for twenty pages,...
Water vapour is responsible for a minimum of 90% of the green house effect,...and thus,...the supposed global warming,... that is really a natural occurrence.
One of which is the water vapour positive feed back loop caused by such NATURAL phenomenon's as El Nino.
But on a positive note, you are acknowledging that there are other factors that control the temperature of the planet, many actually,...other than .1% of a gas that is .04% of the atmosphere.
It did get a lot warmer. Though your dates are wrong, India and China been expanding their emissions earlier than that.Fuji, a question for you:
When India and China entered the Industrial Age in the 1990s and therefore almost quadrupled the CO2 output around the world, shouldn't earth have gotten a lot warmer than what it is right now??
I didn't ask a question.Answered up thread.
Your post is not a response.
The relationship between CO2 and water vapor was answered up thread. Whether or not you like it, water vapor levels and temperature both ride when CO2 levels rise.I didn't ask a question.
Your post is not a response.
Nope,...you are wrong.The relationship between CO2 and water vapor was answered up thread. Whether or not you like it, water vapor levels and temperature both ride when CO2 levels rise.
Actually read my post,...especially the part about what is the predominate green house gas,...because of its positive feed back loop,...which does NOT include CO2 in the loop.
