Weather is part of climate but climate is more than weather.
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Weather is part of climate but climate is more than weather.
Lol. Good catch.
More alarmism bullshit. There have been several stronger hurricanes than this one to make landfall in FL.
Your mind is broken. Seek help.It is incredible how the righties love to always go against scientists and experts in their field.
COVID- doesn't exist
Climate change- hoax
Vaccine doesn't work
Masks don't work
Mass Shootings are not because of too many guns and gun culture
Putin is not a madman but a decent guy
Jordan Peterson isn't a grifter
Andrew Tate isn't a bad guy
Another Freeeeedummmmm convoy
'Truth and Freedom' convoy confronts RCMP roadblock in B.C.'s Shuswap
'Truth and Freedom' convoy confronts RCMP roadblock in B.C.'s Shuswap
Days after tensions started simmering in the Shuswap over wildfire fighting efforts, a convoy of locals attempted to seek answers at an area roadblock.bc.ctvnews.ca
I didn't say Florida. I said that part of Florida. Changing the geography to suit your narrative does not change the fact.
You are the one that believes Donald Twat Trump actually won the election and my mind is broken? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
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A Silly Scheme by Green Zealots to Appease the Global Warming Gods?
By Janet Levy
On the evening of Feb. 22, 2020, Satartia, a small town in Yazoo County, Mississippi, was enveloped in a fog of fetid gas following a loud boom. People collapsed, shaking and breathless, vehicles choked to a halt, and first responders were bewildered. It took four hours to bring the situation under control. Two hundred people were evacuated to safety; 49 had to be hospitalized. Three years later, respiratory problems still plague many residents.
Soon after, Satartia residents learned that the thundering sound and white cloud was caused by the rupture of a 24-inch-thick pipeline carrying compressed CO2, which caused an explosion of ice and CO2. The pipeline was owned by Denbury Inc., a self-proclaimed industry leader in CO2 transportation. Denbury sources the gas from an ancient volcanic cavity called the Jackson Dome and pipes it 40 miles to the Tinsley oilfield for enhancing oil extraction. The fact that the source happens to be contaminated with hydrogen sulfide, making the gas smell like rotten eggs, most likely limited the number of casualties. As CO2 is odorless and heavier than air, settling at ground level, it would have asphyxiated people without warning.
As the Biden administration moves toward vastly increasing carbon capture and storage (CCS) systems as a means of reaching the chimerical goal of Net Zero America, that is, net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, the Satartia disaster should serve as a warning. The government has allocated $10 billion for CCS projects, besides grants, funds, and tax credits. CCS involves capturing CO2 from industrial and other sources, compressing it, and conveying it via pipelines for storage in underground geological formations and disused oil wells. Or, it might be used for forcing out more oil from active wells, as Denbury is doing.
As you can imagine, this would involve a huge grid: a Princeton study envisages 65,000 miles of pipelines carrying CO2 across America by 2050. The trunk lines will be four feet in diameter. Currently, there are 50 pipelines – about 5,000 miles – transporting 70 million tons of CO2 annually for enhanced oil extraction. Developers are now seeking permits for multi-state CCS projects that will ferry CO2 from ethanol plants in the Midwest through some 3,500 miles of pipeline.
All this could be at great risk to the ecology, besides exposing numerous human habitations to Satartia-like accidents. Also, the very scientists who advocate CCS are not sure what ultimately happens to the CO2 being pumped underground. They are vague on the long-term effects and risks of such storage. So why is such an unproven, suspect technology being imposed on America?
The answer is simple: the trillions of dollars to be made, not just by CCS providers but also by others in so-called ‘green premiums’ as America chases Net Zero. Climate change, as some distinguished scientists have pointed out, is an elaborate con. Masked in a political agenda, it ultimately benefits the global elite. CCS is one of the lucrative spin-offs of that con.
Nobel laureate John Clauser has dissented from the climate hysteria, along with 1,500 scientists, calling it a “dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world economy and the well-being of billions of people.” William Happer and Richard Lindzen, both distinguished climate scientists, have written that harm from CO2 emissions has been greatly overstated through an “unscientific method of analysis, relying on consensus, peer review, government opinion, models that don’t work, cherry-picking data, and omitting voluminous contradictory data.”
As for CCS, geologist and Carbon Sense Coalition founder Viv Forbes describes it as a “silly scheme devised by green zealots to sacrifice billions of dollars and scads of energy to bury this harmless, invisible, life-supporting gas in the hope of appeasing the global warming gods.” He cites the huge costs involved – for the steel pipelines, pumps, storage devices, drilling, etc – and the perils posed by transport and storage of pressurized CO2, especially when it leaks in lethal volumes from underground reservoirs.
Presently, three companies – Navigator Energy Services, Wolf Carbon Solutions, and Summit Carbon Solutions – are seeking to build a network to ‘decarbonize’ ethanol production in the Midwest, qualify for tax credits, and demonstrate that CCS is a valid climate solution. Across the farming communities of the region, landowners are worried about eminent domain rulings that will wrest easements for a non-public use project that could destroy their farms, cause their property values to plummet, and expose them to gas leaks. They suspect that safety information is being withheld. Already, company-paid surveyors are entering their properties without permission.
Navigator, in partnership with Valero Energy Corporation and the ‘woke’ BlackRock Global Energy, is launching a project for a 1,200-mile pipeline across five Midwestern states. It aims to sequester 8 million metric tons of CO2 annually. It claims to have paid out $16 million for voluntary easements, and is seeking eminent domain for 950 land parcels where owners are holding out. The final permit decision is scheduled for October 2024.
Summit plans to capture CO2 from 31 corn ethanol plants in five states, transport it through 2,000 miles of pipeline, and sequester 18 million tons per year in North Dakota, near the potentially oil-rich Bakken Formation. This could gross the company $600 million annually in tax credits alone. The company has signed easement agreements with 375 North Dakotans along 70% of the pipeline route. It has also sued 80 landowners in South Dakota to pressure them into granting easements. Summit’s founder-CEO, Bruce Rastetter, is a political heavyweight with extensive ties to governors and other public officials in the area. He is engaging his political contacts to grease the skids for the necessary eminent domain to complete his project.
On August 4, the North Dakota Public Service Commission rejected Summit’s permit application, saying it failed to prove the project would produce minimal adverse effects on the environment and the welfare of people. Other points of contention: the company’s refusal to name all its investors, give the number of proposed pumping stations, and make public other details – the latter for ostensible fear of sabotage. It plans to reapply.
Wolf’s proposed pipeline will transport CO2 from two Archer Daniels Midland ethanol plants in Iowa – up to 12 million metric tons annually – to a permanent underground sequestration site in the state. It filed a permit application in June. The company claims the project will generate 3,000 jobs and have a $3.3 billion regional economic impact over 30 years. But residents and environmentalists have raised red flags about the risk of a pipeline rupture in an impoverished minority neighborhood.
The safety and land disruption fears are not unfounded. Steve Higgenbottom, of Wapello County, Iowa, found his property subsiding – despite building remediating terraces – after the installation of the Dakota Access Pipeline, which carries crude oil from North Dakota to Patoka, Illinois. The 1,172-mile 30-inch diameter pipeline runs 30 feet below the ground. He has been unable to get the company to fix the problem. His property is now in the path of a proposed CO2 pipeline.
Gas leaking from underground reservoirs can also “kill animals and send ground water foaming to the surface like shaken-up soda pop,” as Cameron and Jane Kerr, who own land above an oilfield in Weyburn, Saskatchewan, found out in 2011. Giving an account of the damage, Mr. Kerr told CBC News, "We've lost a home, we've got a back yard full of sand and gravel that we don't think we can sell." Cenovus, the oil and natural gas company responsible, pumps CO2 into its Weyburn oil wells to enhance recovery. The Kerrs have also experienced blurred vision and weakness in their lower extremities.
Paul LaFleur, an independent investigator engaged by the Kerrs, found high concentrations of CO2 in the soil. He attributed them to leakages from underground. Cenovus denies the likelihood of a leak. A later investigation by the government-funded International Performance Assessment Center (IPAC) concluded that the CO2 did not come from underground and that the land was healthy. But LaFleur confirmed in a recent interview that he stands by his assessment.
Considering the many risks involved, CCS appears to be a perilous enterprise of quixotic proportions. Far from being essential for saving us from a climate emergency as many top scientists affirm, it appears to be little more than a lucrative government-incentivized land grab.
12ft | A Silly Scheme by Green Zealots to Appease the Global Warming Gods? - American Thinker
CO2 “capture” pipeline EXPLODES, sending 49 to hospital and nearly killing entire town through carbon dioxide ASPHYXIATION – NaturalNews.com
A Silly Scheme by Green Zealots to Appease the Global Warming Gods?
By Janet Levy
On the evening of Feb. 22, 2020, Satartia, a small town in Yazoo County, Mississippi, was enveloped in a fog of fetid gas following a loud boom. People collapsed, shaking and breathless, vehicles choked to a halt, and first responders were bewildered. It took four hours to bring the situation under control. Two hundred people were evacuated to safety; 49 had to be hospitalized. Three years later, respiratory problems still plague many residents.
Soon after, Satartia residents learned that the thundering sound and white cloud was caused by the rupture of a 24-inch-thick pipeline carrying compressed CO2, which caused an explosion of ice and CO2. The pipeline was owned by Denbury Inc., a self-proclaimed industry leader in CO2 transportation. Denbury sources the gas from an ancient volcanic cavity called the Jackson Dome and pipes it 40 miles to the Tinsley oilfield for enhancing oil extraction. The fact that the source happens to be contaminated with hydrogen sulfide, making the gas smell like rotten eggs, most likely limited the number of casualties. As CO2 is odorless and heavier than air, settling at ground level, it would have asphyxiated people without warning.
As the Biden administration moves toward vastly increasing carbon capture and storage (CCS) systems as a means of reaching the chimerical goal of Net Zero America, that is, net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, the Satartia disaster should serve as a warning. The government has allocated $10 billion for CCS projects, besides grants, funds, and tax credits. CCS involves capturing CO2 from industrial and other sources, compressing it, and conveying it via pipelines for storage in underground geological formations and disused oil wells. Or, it might be used for forcing out more oil from active wells, as Denbury is doing.
As you can imagine, this would involve a huge grid: a Princeton study envisages 65,000 miles of pipelines carrying CO2 across America by 2050. The trunk lines will be four feet in diameter. Currently, there are 50 pipelines – about 5,000 miles – transporting 70 million tons of CO2 annually for enhanced oil extraction. Developers are now seeking permits for multi-state CCS projects that will ferry CO2 from ethanol plants in the Midwest through some 3,500 miles of pipeline.
All this could be at great risk to the ecology, besides exposing numerous human habitations to Satartia-like accidents. Also, the very scientists who advocate CCS are not sure what ultimately happens to the CO2 being pumped underground. They are vague on the long-term effects and risks of such storage. So why is such an unproven, suspect technology being imposed on America?
The answer is simple: the trillions of dollars to be made, not just by CCS providers but also by others in so-called ‘green premiums’ as America chases Net Zero. Climate change, as some distinguished scientists have pointed out, is an elaborate con. Masked in a political agenda, it ultimately benefits the global elite. CCS is one of the lucrative spin-offs of that con.
Nobel laureate John Clauser has dissented from the climate hysteria, along with 1,500 scientists, calling it a “dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world economy and the well-being of billions of people.” William Happer and Richard Lindzen, both distinguished climate scientists, have written that harm from CO2 emissions has been greatly overstated through an “unscientific method of analysis, relying on consensus, peer review, government opinion, models that don’t work, cherry-picking data, and omitting voluminous contradictory data.”
As for CCS, geologist and Carbon Sense Coalition founder Viv Forbes describes it as a “silly scheme devised by green zealots to sacrifice billions of dollars and scads of energy to bury this harmless, invisible, life-supporting gas in the hope of appeasing the global warming gods.” He cites the huge costs involved – for the steel pipelines, pumps, storage devices, drilling, etc – and the perils posed by transport and storage of pressurized CO2, especially when it leaks in lethal volumes from underground reservoirs.
Presently, three companies – Navigator Energy Services, Wolf Carbon Solutions, and Summit Carbon Solutions – are seeking to build a network to ‘decarbonize’ ethanol production in the Midwest, qualify for tax credits, and demonstrate that CCS is a valid climate solution. Across the farming communities of the region, landowners are worried about eminent domain rulings that will wrest easements for a non-public use project that could destroy their farms, cause their property values to plummet, and expose them to gas leaks. They suspect that safety information is being withheld. Already, company-paid surveyors are entering their properties without permission.
Navigator, in partnership with Valero Energy Corporation and the ‘woke’ BlackRock Global Energy, is launching a project for a 1,200-mile pipeline across five Midwestern states. It aims to sequester 8 million metric tons of CO2 annually. It claims to have paid out $16 million for voluntary easements, and is seeking eminent domain for 950 land parcels where owners are holding out. The final permit decision is scheduled for October 2024.
Summit plans to capture CO2 from 31 corn ethanol plants in five states, transport it through 2,000 miles of pipeline, and sequester 18 million tons per year in North Dakota, near the potentially oil-rich Bakken Formation. This could gross the company $600 million annually in tax credits alone. The company has signed easement agreements with 375 North Dakotans along 70% of the pipeline route. It has also sued 80 landowners in South Dakota to pressure them into granting easements. Summit’s founder-CEO, Bruce Rastetter, is a political heavyweight with extensive ties to governors and other public officials in the area. He is engaging his political contacts to grease the skids for the necessary eminent domain to complete his project.
On August 4, the North Dakota Public Service Commission rejected Summit’s permit application, saying it failed to prove the project would produce minimal adverse effects on the environment and the welfare of people. Other points of contention: the company’s refusal to name all its investors, give the number of proposed pumping stations, and make public other details – the latter for ostensible fear of sabotage. It plans to reapply.
Wolf’s proposed pipeline will transport CO2 from two Archer Daniels Midland ethanol plants in Iowa – up to 12 million metric tons annually – to a permanent underground sequestration site in the state. It filed a permit application in June. The company claims the project will generate 3,000 jobs and have a $3.3 billion regional economic impact over 30 years. But residents and environmentalists have raised red flags about the risk of a pipeline rupture in an impoverished minority neighborhood.
The safety and land disruption fears are not unfounded. Steve Higgenbottom, of Wapello County, Iowa, found his property subsiding – despite building remediating terraces – after the installation of the Dakota Access Pipeline, which carries crude oil from North Dakota to Patoka, Illinois. The 1,172-mile 30-inch diameter pipeline runs 30 feet below the ground. He has been unable to get the company to fix the problem. His property is now in the path of a proposed CO2 pipeline.
Gas leaking from underground reservoirs can also “kill animals and send ground water foaming to the surface like shaken-up soda pop,” as Cameron and Jane Kerr, who own land above an oilfield in Weyburn, Saskatchewan, found out in 2011. Giving an account of the damage, Mr. Kerr told CBC News, "We've lost a home, we've got a back yard full of sand and gravel that we don't think we can sell." Cenovus, the oil and natural gas company responsible, pumps CO2 into its Weyburn oil wells to enhance recovery. The Kerrs have also experienced blurred vision and weakness in their lower extremities.
Paul LaFleur, an independent investigator engaged by the Kerrs, found high concentrations of CO2 in the soil. He attributed them to leakages from underground. Cenovus denies the likelihood of a leak. A later investigation by the government-funded International Performance Assessment Center (IPAC) concluded that the CO2 did not come from underground and that the land was healthy. But LaFleur confirmed in a recent interview that he stands by his assessment.
Considering the many risks involved, CCS appears to be a perilous enterprise of quixotic proportions. Far from being essential for saving us from a climate emergency as many top scientists affirm, it appears to be little more than a lucrative government-incentivized land grab.
12ft | A Silly Scheme by Green Zealots to Appease the Global Warming Gods? - American Thinker
CO2 “capture” pipeline EXPLODES, sending 49 to hospital and nearly killing entire town through carbon dioxide ASPHYXIATION – NaturalNews.com
Toronto didnt hit 30C once in August
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Toronto didnt hit 30C once in August
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What is your point. And have you looked up the difference between weather and climate?
Our last 3 summers have actually gotten cooler: https://www.cp24.com/news/toronto-d...er-heat-return-for-the-long-weekend-1.6543366
Toronto didnt hit 30C once in August
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El Nino
AMOC Slowdown
I would say the same thing about you. To pinpoint a particular region to make the point you did is compete asininity.
It saved itself for the beginning of September I guess. Maybe CO2 agent in charge of the Greater Toronto Area took a vacation in AugustToronto didnt hit 30C once in August
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It saved itself for the beginning of September I guess. Maybe CO2 agent in charge of the Greater Toronto Area took a vacation in August
Yeah, that's really how it works....
yep.
I defy anyone. Whether denier, acceptor but it ain’t us, or champion screaming the sky is falling ( maybe it is, maybe it will be as bad as they say) but let’s call a spade a spade. If so, why are throwing $$ at stupid things that might, best case, buy 50 years before the inevitable.
To argue, population growth has nothing to do with it, no impact.lmao, just look at all the parking lots. Paving paradise. Plus ooooooooh, sooooooooooo, very much more.
Any simpleton, that’s ever ran an aquarium has a rudimentary basic understanding of an ecosystem, carrying capacity and bio mass.
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So now you want to say overpopulation is too big a problem so don't bother with climate change?
The oil&gas industry gets $7 trillion a year in subsidies according to the IMF.
They use that to try to stop people from transition, for instance trying to stop the use of heat pumps.
The $7 trillion is infinitely smarter spending than subsidizing renewables. How you can't see that tells me you have a basic problem with logic.
Probably because humans are evolved to go down fighting? Fighting for another 50 years is better than giving up. Who knows, that 50 years may give us time to innovate or adapt.
And it's far more human that some plot to reduce the world population.
Why would it be smarter to give Putin and MBS trillions instead of spending that money to free Canada from giving despots cash?
Why is it smarter to pay out massive subsidies so you can keep the privilege of buying products that will kill 1 billion people?
