City Hall Racist Ad

jcpro

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We can laugh at this ad, but it's a symptom of a much larger problem. These people actually believe that what they're doing has meaning. They speak in slogans, they do not see their fellow citizens - just race and gender. They are completely detached from reality, which has been replaced with dogma. We can see that on this very forum, on hourly basis. Where this is going I don't dare to imagine, but I'm profoundly relieved that I will not be around by the time they take over.
 

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We can laugh at this ad, but it's a symptom of a much larger problem. These people actually believe that what they're doing has meaning. They speak in slogans, they do not see their fellow citizens - just race and gender. They are completely detached from reality, which has been replaced with dogma. We can see that on this very forum, on hourly basis. Where this is going I don't dare to imagine, but I'm profoundly relieved that I will not be around by the time they take over.
I see, so you think the problem isn't racism, the problem is with people who want to do something about racism?
 

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$80,000 for an ineffectual campaign that may even have the opposite effect of what they intend.....
Bullshit.

The people who get offended by it being a white guy are the type who are already so set in their ways and many posters here quite routinely show they have pathetically ridiculous views about Muslims and other ethnicities. Those people won't change their minds so offending them means nothing.

Some of my ancestors were told that they had no place in Canada, people said that they could never assimilate, they were accused of being thieves and rapists simply because there was a big wave of immigrants who were slightly different. This was true even though half of my people were Protestant, not Catholic.

The difference now is that all my people had to do was learn to speak 'proper' English and no one knew the difference. For visible minorities, as the adds point out, many assume they are immigrants no matter how many generations they have been here.

Fact is that the majority is racist against the minorities. Minorities are equally racist but they don't have much power so their racism is less meaningful.
 

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Bullshit.

The people who get offended by it being a white guy are the type who are already so set in their ways and many posters here quite routinely show they have pathetically ridiculous views about Muslims and other ethnicities. Those people won't change their minds so offending them means nothing.

Some of my ancestors were told that they had no place in Canada, people said that they could never assimilate, they were accused of being thieves and rapists simply because there was a big wave of immigrants who were slightly different. This was true even though half of my people were Protestant, not Catholic.

The difference now is that all my people had to do was learn to speak 'proper' English and no one knew the difference. For visible minorities, as the adds point out, many assume they are immigrants no matter how many generations they have been here.

Fact is that the majority is racist against the minorities. Minorities are equally racist but they don't have much power so their racism is less meaningful.
Well put.
 

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..now that IS bullshit. Its always so easy to shame and guilt white people.....
White people along with every other group has done plenty of things that deserve criticism.

Thing is a poster with a racist white guy is not claiming all whites are racist. Anyone who thinks so has an extremely thin skin. If the poster is supposed to represent a typical Canadian then yes, it's going to be a white person. If 20% of people are somewhat racist then that means we have 5 million racist whites vs. 1 million racists of other ethnicities. It is idiotic to pretend there aren't plenty of racist or ignorant white people.

I do wonder why so many people are worried about being accused of racism. Is it like people being homophobic because they're worried about being gay?

Its not a problem, so don't create an issue where there isn't one
Are you really claiming that visible minorities in Toronto aren't sometimes subjected to racism? It is a problem. You might not see it as our largest problem but to pretend we live in a city of ethnic harmony is laughable.
 

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In Toronto and probably Vancouver the minorities are the majority.
Not quite. As of the last census there are still more white people in Toronto than all the other ethnicities put together and Muslims only made up 5.5% of the population.
 

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White people along with every other group has done plenty of things that deserve criticism.

Thing is a poster with a racist white guy is not claiming all whites are racist. Anyone who thinks so has an extremely thin skin. If the poster is supposed to represent a typical Canadian then yes, it's going to be a white person. If 20% of people are somewhat racist then that means we have 5 million racist whites vs. 1 million racists of other ethnicities. It is idiotic to pretend there aren't plenty of racist or ignorant white people.

I do wonder why so many people are worried about being accused of racism. Is it like people being homophobic because they're worried about being gay?

Are you really claiming that visible minorities in Toronto aren't sometimes subjected to racism? It is a problem. You might not see it as our largest problem but to pretend we live in a city of ethnic harmony is laughable.
People can't have it both ways.

If a white person is the majority of Canadians (which it is), and using that metric to blanket all ads with a white person as the bad guy, then for terrorist acts or violent crime, should any government out there then be allowed to blanket all terrorist ads with someone of Middle Eastern or Muslim angle? Or violent crime all be blanketed with a perhaps a black man?

If ads are going to use a certain demographic as the "blanket approach" as opposed to spreading it out among all groups and genders, then it should apply to all groups on both sides of social ads.

In this case, using the "blanket approach" of white people, the ad should have white person yelling at a white person. And to make it gender neutral, there should be one man and one woman as the population is basically 50/50.
 

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Well one thing I have discovered out in the field Frankie is that raccoon stew is damn tasty. However, given a choice squirrel kabobs are my "go to" snack. Cheaper to make up too. Nothin' like some of them kabobs after a night of cow tippin' and punchin' out a few SJW's. We don't like your type 'round here Frankie. But come visit anyhow's...there's a nice quarry near here, they say it is bottomless. You would like it.

Enjoy the livestock, well, not too much.

Had no idea there were outposts of the Ford Nation in the field.
 

jcpro

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I see, so you think the problem isn't racism, the problem is with people who want to do something about racism?
What racism? You must get out more, leave the basement, walk the streets of Toronto. Maybe open your eyes. Toronto(and Canada) is NOT part of the American narrative. It never was. We're a deeply integrated society. We made strides toward that goal in the last two generations like no other country in the world. Leave the race hustling to the Americans and stop watching so much of the American TV.
 

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First off, I don't think it correct that the city should be spending 80 grand on an idiotic poster like that. Secondly I don't think it correct that the city of Toronto should be in the morality business at all. The city should be responsible for maintaining municipal infrastructure period. There was an article just yesterday in the Toronto Star about how the city's expenses are rapidly increasing under Tory in excess of revenue. We are in for a big budget crunch. And some idiot approved 80 grand on stupidity like this?

They need to be fired.
 

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What racism? You must get out more, leave the basement, walk the streets of Toronto. Maybe open your eyes. Toronto(and Canada) is NOT part of the American narrative. It never was. We're a deeply integrated society. We made strides toward that goal in the last two generations like no other country in the world. Leave the race hustling to the Americans and stop watching so much of the American TV.
Toronto is less racist then what I've seen of the US, but its not without its problems, and if you don't know about them then you've just never asked.
This board is a good example of why those ads are necessary, just check the threads out here.
 

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Honestly, I don't buy the into whole minority thing. At present, whites do make up the majority in many areas, but that is changing quickly.
Some areas of the city are now almost entirely visible minority and there is nothing wrong with that as long as they are law abiding and accept Canadian values. Otherwise, why bother coming to Canada?
 

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I'm a visible minority and even though I was born in Canada and love this country, I have heard those words, "Get out of my country!" and "Foreigner!" uttered to me,
Don't lose any sleep over it. Italians, Portuguese, Irish Catholics, Jews, Ukrainians, Russians, etc. have also been told to go home. Ever heard of the "Christie Pits Riot"? I think the Orangemen are the problem (just kidding).
 

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First off, I don't think it correct that the city should be spending 80 grand on an idiotic poster like that. Secondly I don't think it correct that the city of Toronto should be in the morality business at all. The city should be responsible for maintaining municipal infrastructure period. There was an article just yesterday in the Toronto Star about how the city's expenses are rapidly increasing under Tory in excess of revenue. We are in for a big budget crunch. And some idiot approved 80 grand on stupidity like this?

They need to be fired.
1000% agree with that. Tory is incapable of trying to control them. The lunatics are once again in charge of the city of Toronto.

They should be fired and the manager who approved it fired as well.

But - unlike the private sector, the government workers are almost impossible to fire unless they commit criminal acts. Unless we make stupidity a criminal act government employees are immune to the same market forces of accountability.

When you spend other people's money on other people, you don't care how much anything costs or if the money spent is actually doing anything of value. This is a clear example of the status quo of unfettered and unrestricted government operation.
 

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It's like me saying sexism isn't a problem, even though I have never been the victim of sexism.
I think the worm has turned. Our HR folks are actively seeking non-white females for certain jobs, especially jobs that interface with the public.
 

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Hasn't happened since I was a kid and back then I never lost any sleep over it. I got tough skin and throw a mean 1-2. My point was that someone who probably has never faced racism isn't qualified to judge whether it's a problem or not. It's like me saying sexism isn't a problem, even though I have never been the victim of sexism.
I think almost everyone has suffered some form of discrimination in their lives.

I don't think it happens here in Canada anywhere near as often as most of the world.

The lowest and most crude form of collectivism is racism. We need to move towards judging people based on their individual merits.

The fact remains that we have a lot of collectivist and socialist ideology influencing politicians, the media and bureaucracy here in Canada.
 

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I think the worm has turned. Our HR folks are actively seeking non-white females for certain jobs, especially jobs that interface with the public.
This has and will likely become more commonplace for some time.

Sadly the government promotion of this politically correct "gender and race equality program" (nothing more than race and gender hustling) will prevent a merit based hiring policy which truly does not discriminate based on gender or race.

Sad but true.
 
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