Cim

Noir said:
I feel that the riskier acts should be YMMV and are not to be expected by each and every provider of said acts. Let's face the facts- partaking in this hobby is risky on both ends as a provider and a hobbyist. There is always ways of minimizing risks and there are providers for every hobbyists comfort level. :)

Scarlett and Hiding - I think that makes three of us that know the same person. *shudder*

Epidemiologically speaking, gonorrhea and syphilis in the throat area amongst SPs is relatively well documented. You wouldn't necessarily have to know the same person, other than the interesting parts to the story.

IMO: I like these threads. From a safety perspective, it lets me know which providers are more concerned with their health. In particular, it highlights the ones that understand disease control better, at least enough to find out about the different risk factors.
 
Cassini said:
Epidemiologically speaking, gonorrhea and syphilis in the throat area amongst SPs is relatively well documented. You wouldn't necessarily have to know the same person, other than the interesting parts to the story.

I know that we probably don't know the same person. I was jesting...

I like these threads as well, it allows us to discuss topics that most people are afraid to put forward. Health is a very important issue in the world of hobbying and everyone should have access to information about safer sex acts, and know their risk and their level of exposure when partaking in less safe sex acts.

Although they've been quoted many times by my fellow SPs and hobbyists, I don't mind linking in the HFC.

http://www.hasslefreeclinic.org/STI.php

Stay in the know and get tested frequently. Participate in sex acts that you feel comfortable doing, but don't do so blindly! Be aware!
 
Not no risk, but the only real 'bad bugs' are herpes and hepatitis. Neither of which are curable, particularly herpes permanent, you can't get vaccinated for, and is catchy as hell.

Beyond those two, the clap, gonorrhoea, and syphilis while not pleasant, are far more 'socially inconvenient' than lethal. Bad if you have an SO, but not likely to kill you. HPV, while linked to cervical cancer, is so prevalent that doesn't really even make sense to think about it unless you married as a virgin to a virgin. (Easy money for big pharma when it comes to HPV. Mind you the vaccination does cover the most cancerous strains.)

HIV is pretty much a non-factor...

My sex life is pretty much civi side, where there is only BBBJ, and my only real worry is herpes. (Mostly because I'm not in a monogamous thing.) Albeit, I don't go fishing for BBBJ or L/DFK from dancers, precisely because of the herpes risk. Amount of bare knob polished really does matter for herpes. But hey, do whatever fits your risk profile.
 
Sukdeep said:
I see.

What about the herpes contagion?

Also, cuts are not always obvious, such as from aggressive brushing or flossing.

Herpes is always a risk,,,even french kissing poses a danger. I know myself if my gums are sore and I will not risk it.
 
Riley.Royal said:
When I am escorting I am safe some might not like CBJ but that is not their choice, it's very rare I will do BBBJ. and CIM is not even a thought in my mind it is something I will not do.

It is the customers choice to the extent that they may only choose amongst sp's who provide BBBJ. Montreal is nearly exclusively BBBJ with about 50% offering cim ( which really doesn't increase the risk over BBBJ alone if you spit or swallow immediately). Very few stories amongst sp's there of orally transmitted STI's or sp's with "throat infections".

Anecdotal information is not particularly useful though in assessing risk. The " I knew someone who caught it" or "I've had 1,000 BBBJ's and never caught anything" stories do not take into account all the factors and are simply that - stories.

Everyone takes the risks they are comfortable with. I don't think this one is particularly high but I only see high end sp's who are smart enough to get checked regularly. People will always want to preach their own views and risk profiles to others and call someone who doesn't share them crazy. Happens every second month here.

In the meantime if you hobby you might consider getting checked at least twice a year and if you are a sp every 3 months. Whether you regularly get or give BBBJ's or not.
 
I get the whole works every three months, sooner if I have any worries. Throat swab included. I also am very strict when it comes to my bbbj's, if you have any red marks, dry spots or odd secretion then I am not touching it. I have said no to a few for those very reasons. I take my health and the health of my guys very seriously.
 
Of course I get to CIM all the time! I also enjoy a very open "menu" at the same time!

Funny thing, the topic of this thread is also not an issue for me as I still buy flowers for Mrs. Cycleguy... all the time...

So, that begs the question... Are these 2 topics related???

Perhaps! ;)
 
I often visit CIM girls but don't want CIM, maybe one minute of BBBJ, switch to CBJ, on to DATY and FS before I cum the first time. My question Noir? Should I be getting a discount?
 
Cycleguy007 said:
Of course I get to CIM all the time! I also enjoy a very open "menu" at the same time!

Funny thing, the topic of this thread is also not an issue for me as I still buy flowers for Mrs. Cycleguy... all the time...

So, that begs the question... Are these 2 topics related???

Perhaps!

It maybe related because Mrs. Cycleguy does CIM because you buy her flowers all the time? :)
 
Mrbig1949 said:
I often visit CIM girls but don't want CIM, maybe one minute of BBBJ, switch to CBJ, on to DATY and FS before I cum the first time. My question Noir? Should I be getting a discount?

Where's the smiley face? I know that it was a joke...:rolleyes:
 
toughb said:
Seems to be available from just about every SP.

I guess the next question is when will bareback be available as an extra?

Question is how much greater a risk is everyone willing to take?
...probably shakes hands wearing latex gloves. :p
 
humans are eating meat from cows, pigs, chickens... damn! ...soon we'll be eating dogs and cats. how far we gonna go!

call you MP (uhm? not that one.)
 
nlt76 said:
humans are eating meat from cows, pigs, chickens... damn! ...soon we'll be eating dogs and cats. how far we gonna go!

call you MP (uhm? not that one.)

Is it just me or does this post make no sense along the topic line ?
 
*Just smile and nod*

Ironhead said:
Is it just me or does this post make no sense along the topic line ?

:D

I didn't get it either....
 
poonhunter said:
the sp always cim but I spit :)

Now there's a twist .....

Us guys that really, really enjoy DATY need to give this some thought. Is the risk any greater if the Ladylove loses control and ends up having an "O".

I have always given myself a pat on the back (or tried, my arms aren't that flexible)

I'm thinking that a fairly high number of guys that get bbbj (10%) end up losing it either on purpose, or by accident and ejaculate in the SPs mouth....

Oops, sorry 'bout that
 
lovelatinas said:
Facials are safer than CIM. I don't know why more Sps offer that more often? I guess they don't like cleaning up after or don't like it in the eyes. I like to give facials instead of CIM.

Actually gonorrohea can be transmitted to the eyes as well,from an infected client.It can be transmitted through any mucous membranes including the throat and eyes causing corneal damage even blindness.The only way to keep yourself completely safe from catching an STD is refrain completely from giving or accepting a BBBJ
 
Macator2003 said:
I'm thinking that a fairly high number of guys that get bbbj (10%) end up losing it either on purpose, or by accident and ejaculate in the SPs mouth....

Oops, sorry 'bout that
Please, let me call big load of horse crap on the "accident" one.

If a guy can't tell that he's about to cum, then he's not ready to have grown up sex yet, and he needs to jerk off a little more before fucking women.
 
genintoronto said:
Please, let me call big load of horse crap on the "accident" one.

If a guy can't tell that he's about to cum, then he's not ready to have grown up sex yet, and he needs to jerk off a little more before fucking women.

LMFAO! :D You are great...lol...

I can't say since I'm not a guy...but I would like to believe that accidents can be avoided.
 
It goes both ways.
If an escort with a cock in her mouth can't tell if a guy's about to cum, she shouldn't be giving bbjs. :rolleyes:
 
genintoronto said:
Please, let me call big load of horse crap on the "accident" one.

If a guy can't tell that he's about to cum, then he's not ready to have grown up sex yet, and he needs to jerk off a little more before fucking women.

Even when you're after someone, it still makes me think of having sex with you. Maybe I enjoy the humour in the post, maybe I'm just remembering...

Anyway, as to CIM, I'd say the split is better than 50% do, in my experience. Those that don't have been the exception. And I would say that if you see ones that don't, they may if you see them more often as the comfort level grows.

Then there are those who demand it... you know who you are! (Not Gen, despite me starting the post of with her).